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if your mother was on her deathbed and she begged you to pray with her.
would you do it, would you accept Christ as your personal savior so that she could be comforted in her last moments of life?

m16566 7 May 18
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No. No I wouldn't.

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In that moment, why the fuck not? I know it's just talking to the wind, but it would make her happy.

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Sounds to me like a deal made under duress. Aren't these kinds of agreements - between your mother's God and you - unenforceable; like, null and void?

How sad that mom would rather have you lie to her to feel better than to have you be honest with her.

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Being an actor, I could probably pull it off just for her sake. Afterward, I would probably repent by washing my mouth out with soap.

Thanks for the Sunday morning laugh.

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That's certainly not accepting and respecting that your son or daughter have their own walk and choices in life they're "at peace with". That would certainly break someone at their mother's deathbed. Like your mom "putting you in a corner" even on her deathbed! It's like being choked while still breathing. They have nurtured you, loved you and protected you, but unfortunately subtly still have that iron hand which is cruel. My mother once told me, "if you don't marry this person, don't come see my face in my coffin when I die". Yes! she did, and I obeyed, even though I went through so much pain, and regardless of the abuse I faced, which she was aware of, staying in this relationship, would bring "no shame to her name". I got out if it eventually and we (my mother and I) became estranged (I distanced myself) for many many year's. I couldn't understand how your own mother could be this cruel!
Even on someone's deathbed, remain true to who you are, you'd probably regret that you perhaps "didn't please her" before she died, but I don't beat yourself up for being you. You're not guilty for not "obeying" someone trying to "save you" when you're already free and safe. No mother should put a child in that situation.

I think a lie told for the greater good is excusable.
clearly mom in my scenario is wrong.
I asked what's decision causes the least pain?

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that would have killed my mom. we're jewish.

but pretending to pray with someone dying, someone you love, and actually accepting a nonexistent christ into your heart are not the same thing. how would anyone even know what was in your heart? you could be on your knees and saying to yourself, "i am not praying but i am on my knees to make my mother happy, and she will die peacefully because of this pose, and it hurts no one, including me." my mom on her deathbed said she thought she would be joining my dad in heaven. do you think i said "gee mom i'm sorry you're dying but guess what? there's no heaven!" i said no such thing and i did not feel like a hypocrite for not correcting her. you only die once.

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My mother assumes I'm still a christain. I will leave her that impression. So, she could die in peace.

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My mother became an atheist in nursing school.

"I realized a woman cannot turn into salt," Mom said dryly. She was hilarious!

The answer to your questions is NO WAY.

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No. My mother would never ask me to do that for her! Love my mom!

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Absolutely. As long as she believes I'm sincere about it is all that matters. I would make out a list to Santa Claus if it gave her peace on her death bed.

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If I really thought it would bring her comfort, I might. However, I think she is secretly tormented by "God's judgement" after she dies. Presently, I think it would bring her more comfort if I were to insist there will be no such thing.

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Definitely not, because I believe that soon after death we see the truth. There is not death, just energy.

Why do you believe that, as a skeptic I'm always looking for evidence.
it is logical that energy cannot be created or destroyed.
I have no reason to believe that when the brain dies, everything connected with it dies, and death is in Oblivion

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Of course. Love exists regardless of world view. I Don need god to love and take care of my aging mother.

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Oh hell no.

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No but would pray to ease her mind praying for comforting family members is not a statement of belief

bobwjr Level 10 May 19, 2019
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I'd fake it convincingly. I don't actually have to believe it, I just have to make her believe it because it would bring her comfort. It wouldn't be hard, as she would already be inclined to want to believe it anyway.

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Yes, because she is my mother and dying. My belief is about my life.

But the best part of the question is my real Mother would never ever care about or ask me to do these stupid things.

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Doubtful. Admittedly I unable to say for sure unless I find myself in that situatiion, but I would like to believe that my mother would expect me to act out of some form of intellectual honesty. She has known for some time about my atheism and position.

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there is life after death, but it has nothing go do with Jesus or any other religion. Our souls are eternal, or at least we exist as long as the UNIVERSE IS gonna exist. Praying to Jesus is like praying to Santa Claus. Or Popeye the Sailor.....or superman.....batman....Elvis.....Rin Tin Tin.....Lassie.....Toto.....the list goes on and on......and sometimes imagination works. B
ut for the most part organized religions are about taking your money. When your mother dies, you don't want them to be alone. And they are no alone. Our ancestors who have already passed on demonstrate themselves and help with the transition. Sure it is scary, but we all must cross over sooner or later. LET''S JUST HOPE GOD IS NOT A CHICKEN......GEEZ!!!

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probably because I would know I didnt mean it and it would mean something to her

lerlo Level 8 May 19, 2019
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There is a big difference between praying, which is basically a wish, and accepting Jesus Christ as your personal savior. If my mother’s last wish was for me to pray with her, I absolutely would in order to give her comfort. My job in that moment is to make her comfortable and help ensure that she goes in as much peace as possible. I would feel selfish if I didn’t.

when I die, I don't want to hear any Jesus Christ bullshit.....they are just as crazy as the Muslims....

@FlyingEagle1952 and hopefully, if you have those that believe in the lie of religion near you, they will give you respect and show you their love by NOT mentioning their belief, which you find so odious.

@Leeshi My daughters are right wing fanatic evangelico Christians, they love Trump too. But they still love me. I am a spiritualist, not by wishful thinking, but by experience. I didn't know what is was in 1994, it took me years to find out.....I experienced a kundalini awakening, not fun either. I have to hear this JC bullshit all the time. I have 2 daughters and both of their husbands are studying to be ministers. I usually go to the Xmas services for my grand kids, but i've stopped that....no more. My daughters know I want no discussion of Jesus Christ over my ashes.....that's for sure. There has been nothing that has contributed more to mental illness than Christianity. There is one sick God......omg.....so sick.....end of story. BUT......there is life after death.....we are in fact beings of light.....it's all about light frequencies......and it is important to LOVE AND BE KIND. WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND.

@FlyingEagle1952 while I respect your right to believe in whatever you choose, I find it a bit hypocritical that you, who believes in some form of higher power (if I am mistaken in my understanding of what you just posted, please let me know), are calling others that believe in a different higher power crazy. What makes your higher power so much more realistic than theirs?

@Leeshi It's not about a 'higher power"....it's physics......light frequencies......consciousness is consciousness......what makes ME ME....and YOU YOU. When our body dies, we must exit these physical bodies. It has nothing to do with what you believe, your religion. It's biological phenomenon. My mother believe there was nothing after you die. She passed in 1994. Well, .....too bad....but wrong. At the end she went into severe shock because she was not prepared for what was going on. Neither was i. There is a great book called THE JOURNEY OF SOULS, by Newton. He was a skeptic.....but just ran into too much evidence. It's a great book. So is BEYOND THE LIGHT by PMH Atwater.........i had dinner with PMH.......another one LIFE AFTER LIFE, by Dr Raymond Moody. I had dinner with Raymond Moody, the man saved my life. And Dannion Brinkley, he wrote SAVED BY THE LIGHT. I had dinner with Dannion too. Dannion was dead for almost an hour.......they made a TV movie about him and he was on Phil Donahue 4 times. Get on YOUTUBE and watch Ebin Alexander.....he is a brain doctor that died. He will blow your mind. I went IANDS meetings for 10 years, my experience was in 1994. Good luck....

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The first question for this would be, why Jesus? Why not Buddha, Allah, Lord Shiva or even Ahura Mazda etc. Because maybe your country is dominated by Christianity making Christ as your God and savior. Well of course, the faith you were raised to, does not mean that particular religion is the correct one. Be rational enough dear.

Why not santa claus? Popeye the sailor? Batman? Lassie? Rin tin tin? The wizard of oz?

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I often wonder this question when I think of people how have been kidnapped during times of civil unrest.. like the 70+ Nigerian schoolgirls abducted from a Christian school by Muslim rebels and "forced" to convert so the abductors can feel ok about raping and forced "marriage". When those girls were asked to renounce their god to save their lives.. how many said no?

In a scenerio like the one you mention here, I would say, 'No'. I know myself.

The inner warrior in me will fight to the death before being forced to do anything that goes against my morals.

I'd take charge and lead a fight so brutal against my enemies, they would beg me to kill them or they'll just have to kill me.

If I'm going die on any given day under those circumstances, I'm going in a blaze of glory like a true badass!

if I could say what I had to say, Aveda lay and Escape I would.

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No. She's knows better.

Ditto.

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