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Mad at god or don't believe? My experience here tells me that some are just mad at god and others don't believe. Which are you?

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lerlo 8 July 25
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I played your game but can't see why you would ask such a question. Surely the results must be a foregone conclusion on a site such as this?

A. I get to ask any question I want. As I explained in the post my experience here is that some people just like to be mad at God and or religion which to me is the same thing. I was seeking to find out what the numbers were. Some people said that no one would admit to being mad at God. If you read the comments some people did admit it. Some people got mad at the poster which could mean they didn't like the question which could mean that they're mad at God. It's a pretty innocuous post so the fact that anyone could get mad at at it is beyond me unless it hit a nerve.
B. If it's a foregone conclusion you're welcome to bypass this post or any other post you don't like or think is a waste of time.
C.Your turn to explain to me why anyone would get upset at such an innocuous post.

@lerlo what is your answer to your own question?

@Ms_McSteven and they delete it so that no one else can tell whether or not they were rude

@Jama765 I voted that I don't believe there is a God.

@Ms_McSteven before it "went away?" sorry? Did you delete it? Could i ask why? ty

@Ms_McSteven man, i don't even agree with his belief here, and i gotta tell ya seems to me like he is the one getting attacked and belittled first, no offense.

@Ms_McSteven she deleted it because my response made a point she couldnt handle. Then re-posted it her comment in another comment without my response because that makes her look better. Will you PLEASE block me?

@Ms_McSteven tell me oh knowing and powerful one what's wrong with my innocuous post that you took offense to--show me where i accused you of being mad at god ...you can't but your type, like your president, likes to use name calling when they have no rational argument--I will report your rudeness and name calling--but you continue to exercise what freedom you have left

@Ms_McSteven I agree with banning you--nah you deleted your post because you couldnt reply to my reply without looking foolish--I get it. I'll be here defending myself and my post as long as you will

@Ms_McSteven Thanks for keeping up your rant and personal attacks, more fuel for admin. You are the quintessential stereotype of the perfect woman. Not that it will matter but here is how I voted: "You have voted for: I don't believe there is a god or am unsure." Find for me once again Ms. Perfect where I told ANYONE that they were mad at god. Good luck and I'm just as free if I want to to be mad at you or anything else--without your consent but will be happy to continue this b.s. of yours as long as you have the time because I don't let people like you or your ilk intimidate me in the slightest. I spent my career fighting for justice and your attacks are feeble in comparison to the attacks from the ignorant I have dealt with.

@Ms_McSteven you kept and deleted it, you find it

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Oh golly I answered this as if it were an actual question first before reading this person's replies to several of our comments. I see now the error of my ways, this is just one of those thinly veiled already decided in the posters mind sort of questions, which would mean it isn't really a question at all. Many of us have explained clearly that it is not any made up person that folks are upset with but those who forced such nonsense down people's throats. I would like to add that I have never believed in any gods and have never found myself upset with any of them any moreso than I would be upset with any other jerkwaffle in any other fictional story. However I do find people who try to force their opinions on others to be some of the lowest life forms in existence. Oftentimes those people happen to be religious. Sometimes though they are just people on the internet who post polls asking people's opinions and then correcting any of those opinions that don't match up with the response that was being fished so poorly for...😁

Byrd Level 7 July 26, 2019

and I just love holier-than-thou people who refuse to read comments that don't agree with them like the people who have admitted that they were mad at God at some point. Nothing like personal attacks to bolster one's non opinio.
So big shot let's go over what's wrong with the post. You don't like it because it implies that someone might be mad at god and you don't agree? Perhaps you should read the comments of the people who say they were mad at god. You don't like it because people are accused of being mad at God? Unfortunately you don't get a say.
You are mad at people that are mad at God? Again you don't get a say. You don't like the whole topic? Feel free not to read the post or even comment. You just like to make personal attacks on people that post things? Great bolstering my belief in the site. I'm excited to continue this with you

@Ms_McSteven nothing like a personal attack like calling someone an ass huh? You accused me of telling you that you were mad at God which I never did but thanks for the warning have a great day b

ha, priceless.

@lerlo oh please omnipotent being, tell me more about my own inner thoughts and personal feelings. I mean, you and only you, of all people, could possibly know what I am thinking... You may want to reread the comments and actually try to hear what people are saying, instead of coming up with whatever you can pull out of your... Well, the place you clearly pull your ideas from. Hint. It's down there around your nether regions, ya know, the back door. Anyhow, as I stated at the point of posting my second comment I in fact did read any and all comments posted until that point. I also used phrases like many of us. This is a common way of implying that not all of the people in a group agree but many do. Again, you poor sad little person, my suggestion would be to actually try to read and understand others answers, even if they are not the ones you so clearly went fishing for. Or you could just go to some silly religious site, those folks seem to want to just go along with what anyone tells them to think so you may find you have better luck with this nonsense there. Peace out rainbow trout🤣

@Byrd thanks for the lesson genius...PLEASE explain how this horrible post got your panties in a bunch. You don't think someone can be mad at god? You don't think you can vote the other way? I was forcing everyone to do what? Yes it is inconceivable to me that some people here can understand that people believe in a god as many of them used to but can't fathom that they could be mad at the god they trusted. I will make sure to clear all future posts through your incredible mind, thanks for joining in the attack and when you get your panties out of your nether regions, which you're quite familiar with apparently, please send me a schedule of your next seminars. ah

@Ms_McSteven as your butt apparently did by my post but then only you are free to determine my thoughts and opinions

@lerlo again, there you go ASSuming things about people you know nothing about. I, in fact, do not wear panties. Nothing is in a bunch other than this bunch of people who made attempts to answer your silly post and found that it was posted by someone who wants to only hear from those who see things their way. Honestly at this point I only check in on what you are saying so I can be assured of a good chuckle. Also once again, you may want to try to actually read what folks are saying. Take me for example. I never once said someone can't be mad at god. I said that if they are saying that is not the case for them then that should be a sufficient answer. For you it would appear that it is not. However please do keep posting this sort of thing. It helps us weed out the undesirable antagonistic holier than thou sorts...plus I can't get enough of those aforementioned chuckles😂🤣😂🤣😂

@Byrd find where I said if they weren't mad that was bad, go ahead... Name-calling has always been the first choice of ignorant people keep it up, you too sound like your president

@lerlo also I wonder where this idea of yours that I or any others don't get a say on any of this nonsense. In fact I am having my say at this very moment (shock! Oh the rebellion!) See silly little thing, no one cares if you tell us we don't get to believe what we believe or that we don't get to have a say. We are, all of us, allowed all of these things. But wait! There's more! 😂 Let me be crystal clear on this. I am in no way offended by the idea of others being upset with whatever floats their boat. What many of us are refusing to put up with is someone who, any time the answer isn't the one they sought, attempts to convince us that we don't know our own thoughts and beliefs as well as said person...(said person is reffering to you, figured I should throw that in there since every other thing said to you seems to confuse you so easily).

@Byrd so you're ducking my challenge to find where I said or contradicted anybody's opinion other than the people who said it wasn't possible to be mad at God. Good luck, duck this again , just keep ranting because you have no point to make and no argument

@lerlo yes rant master, tell me more about how to properly rant like you. In answer to your pathetic "challenge" I would like to point out again (don't worry I have patience. I can continue to re-explain it to you. It's clear you are having some difficulty and that is totally ok.) Never did I claim that someone cannot be upset with God. In fact I have stated more than once that this is in no way what I said. And yet you claim I did. So the example I am giving you of your inability to accept people's own words without twisting them to fit your agenda is that. Right there. That is one of many but you don't pay me to do your fact checking so that there example is free. The rest you will have to put some effort of your own into finding. Oh, and by the way, just so we understand things. There was no fucking. You just happened to miss the meat of the comment. Tends to happen though when you are only looking for what you want others to say.

@Byrd not surprising, you're still out of your mind. Also Mr. Fact-checker find out where I told you that no one else gets an opinion. That's a good homework assignment for a child. Good luck with that one too.

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I agree with your analysis, but I doubt that many people will admit it. Seems to me like there are three paths to becoming atheist, one is to suffer abuse from religion and the other is the desire to make religion suffer. The third is to never encounter it.

My path was nothing like any of those 3.

Religion can be left/dumped/grown out of in many different ways. Many more than listed here. As a youngster I asked questions. The answers I received were usually incoherent, absurd, or unacceptable. Native intelligence is what kept me from being hooked. I also remember wondering why the other kids couldn't see it.

The above posts are correct. There are far more than three avenues to atheism. Rationalism, thinking for myself, and logic for me.

@StarvingArtist @evidentialist @skeptic70 @lerlo @Sierra4 @synergy @Kafirah Its time for a little crash course in human psychology.

[psychologicalscience.org]
[singularityhub.com]

Here is the TLDR, humans are not rational decision makers. Our choices are heavily influenced by emotion, environment, and other random factors. Our conscious experience seems to runs contrary to that, but this is because our conscious mind receives information from the subconscious mind through an "interpreter" that makes sense of the raw information.

Humans are not rational, we rationalize our choices and decisions after the fact.

"I bought a lottery ticket, because I thought I would win"
"I don't eat meat, because meat is destroying the planet"
"I voted for Trump, because he is a good candidate"
"I didn't vote for Trump, because he is not a good candidate"
"I am an Atheist, because there is no god"

These are all examples of rationalization. There is always a deeper reason to why people do what they do, and it isn't always perfectly coherent and rational. There is no logical answer to the question: "Is there a god?" No amount of science or logic can ever prove or disprove this, it's outside of what we are capable of understanding.

For everyone who believes that Science, rationality and higher learning was your key to becoming Atheist, I can say with a fair amount of confidence that you fall neatly into the 2nd category, of those who desire the conquering of religion.

@Happy_Killbot Have zero desire to conquer any religion. It is all just silly fairy tales. If someone wants to believe, then let them. I do not proselytize. To each their own.

@Happy_Killbot -- Not a surprise nor a revelation. Also, these observations do not preclude the presence of rational thought. They merely indicate what should be reasonably obvious to any thinking individual. Is the point you are hoping to make that there is a subconscious element to every thought?

@evidentialist I'm not saying that rational thought doesn't exist, just that any major decision, including the one to become atheist is driven more by emotion than most people are willing to admit, both to themselves and others.

@Happy_Killbot
I still like @StarvingArtist post. Short and true. In my humble opinion.

@Sierra4 These two are not mutually exclusive. Quite the opposite in fact.

Why does someone desire to learn about anything?

Why would learning about ancient history and science ever exclude the possibility of the existence of something totally unrelated?

How can we say that we understand something when it has only been explored for two and a half sentences?

It is the realization that there is nothing there to control or truly learn that results in anger and the desire to cause religion suffering.

Also notice how you say "I still LIKE" which kind of goes to prove my prior point. You understand, or rather feel like you understand StarvingArtist's point of view, so you rationalize that it must be correct, because the other point of view, which rationally you have to conclude could also be correct, is very profound and foreign to you.

@Happy_Killbot Not sure why you tagged me in that, but okay, I guess...

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To be honest, Iv'e never actually met anyone who disbelieves because they are "mad at god".

youve never met anyone willing to admit that you mean yeh?

@bbyrd009 No. I meant exactly what I said.

@TristanNuvo if you read some of the comments you can find people who were/are mad at god, you could introduce yourself. However based on how irate people's responses are to the thought that someone might be, you can understand why someone might not admit it here.

@lerlo Show me one. I did read the comments, and my original statement stands.

@TristanNuvo "
"In my case, anger at "god" led me to the realization there is no God, and the anger went away." there's one, one of the recent posts--I won't do your research for you. Two people voted that way. You can choose willful blindness, I expect nothing less from this site.

@lerlo I think you are missing the point. They said that at one time they were mad at god. meaning at one time the still believed. Since they no longer believed, they are no longer "mad at god".
So my point still stands. I've never met any one whose disbelief is because they ARE mad at god.

@TristanNuvo Congratulations and may your life be untarnished by such people

and may you always believe everything everyone tells you, all the time

@bbyrd009 I did not say that either. That's twice you tried to twist my words to fit your agenda. It hasn't worked either time.

@TristanNuvo oh, i dunno, maybe 🙂 ppl say all kinda stuff, to make themselves look better or feel better? doesnt mean much imo. Generally speaking, most ppls unqualified statements meant to convey a "truth" are usually conveying a separate truth that they are maybe not aware of? You take them at their word, and i suspect they are mostly hypocrites and full of crap, thats all i guess

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Uh, more like I'm not worried about whether god exists or not, more than being unsure. I feel like the word unsure sounds like I'm worried about it or something. I've gotten to the point where I figure if god does exist, they probably aren't the sadistic bastard the religionists make them out to be, so I'm not worried about it.

Sorry, I can't find any dictionary definition of unsure equaling worried

@lerlo I was consulting my gut, not the dictionary.

@UpsideDownAgain Hear, Hear .. Hip, Hip .. Chin, Chin.

@jlynn37 I have no idea what you mean by that but it made me laugh.

@UpsideDownAgain It is just a method to express a heartily agreement.

@jlynn37 Ah, good to know.

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Hard to be mad at something that doesn’t exist

Yes!

God never makes the claim of existence according to our definition, not anywhere. Swing anna miss, sweetie.

@bbyrd009 which god “sweetie?”

Regardless, how can a nonexistent thing make a claim? My unicorn claims existence, prove me wrong!

@Marcie1974 Except for the people who, as one comment suggested, were/are mad at god and then "abandoned god." That to me is different than not believing god exists--hence the reason for the poll.

@Marcie1974 oh, my apologies, i'm from the deep south, bad habit with the sweetie thing i guess. God makes no claims of "existence: having objective reality or being" anywhere, that i am aware of? Allah doesnt, and YHWH doesnt, and Krishna doesnt?

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It is not possible to be mad at someone you don't believe exists.

It IS possible to be disappointed with the fact that he doesn't exist, at least until you come to understand that god is not a solution to anything to begin with -- AND the source of a lot of problems in the world.

It IS possible to be angry at religion for selling you a bill of goods and not delivering, but most of us do get over it with time.

I really don't understand the need for believers to project anger onto atheists though. Or hopelessness or nihilistic depression, or any of the other awful things we caricatured with. We're people, just like any others; sometimes we are unhappy or upset with life, just like anyone is. If you gaslight and proselytize us, of course we might not react well to that. Just common sense.

i hear this "existence" argument a lot, and fwiw YHWH never claims to "exist" anywhere, according to our definition. Religion is roundly and repeatedly condemned in the Bible, and if you were so stupid as to go into religion for a perspective of God wadr that is strictly on you. The OT is a record of the failure of religion, yeh?

@bbyrd009 "I AM that I am; tell them I AM has sent you" (God to Moses, supposedly). Sounds like a pretty strong existence claim right there.

So you're going the tired route of claiming there's a difference between faith / belief and religion. The "religion of one, so its not really religion" routine. Or maybe it's the "religion vs relationship" route. Or the "man reaching up to god vs god reaching down to man" route.

It all gets codified into tribal dogmas (religion) in the end. Whether it's the Holy Roman Church or Bedside Baptist or just little old you telling people what's true and what's false, it's all the same.

@mordant "Sounds like a pretty strong existence claim right there." at first, yes, but if you read the whole passage and then read our common def of "exist: have objective reality or being," another truth begins to become evident imo. The AM part is almost universally read as like a title, which anywhere else Am would be sufficient for that, and almost never read as EMPHATIC, and so the rest of the passage is discounted and misunderstood. So, and i know this is strange ok, but i believe in God, or Allah, or Krishna, doesnt matter imo as these are strictly concepts, but i do not believe God "exists," nor were the authors nor "God" trying to forward that pov?
The arg being that as soon as one insists upon God's "existence," like "believers" do, one will also manufacture the essences of Existence onto God, Old White Guy in a White Robe and a Big Beard, etc. An interesting corrollary here is that you will never find a "believer" who actually has any "belief" whatsoever in God's existence! They all hold that to be an Absolute Truth, and it cannot even be debated?" At least until they read that passage and some of Job with me, wherein we almost always get to see who Satan really is too 🙂

@mordant "So you're going the tired route of claiming there's a difference between faith / belief and religion." Samaritans were considered evil and not accepted then, but we are told to "go and do likewise." And there is no judgement for beliefs in the Bible, as most believers tacitly demand? Who also conflate faith and beliefs right away, in their efforts to attain heaven after they have died. Yet no one has ever gone up to heaven, and there is only One Immortal, which no believer will appreciate you Quoting either. You and your sons will be here with me is the assurance to believers (who will not accept it) that all go to the same place.
We mostly proceed from the pov of the Bible that believers have disseminated, see, and we do not ever hear these parts of the Bible, but when the OT is realized as a record of the failure of a religion, and John Baptist and Jesus of Nazareth ("John Doe from out of Nowhere," searchable btw) as two guys sticking two big Middle Fingers straight up in the air at The Man, then wisdom is no longer hidden from the wise. These were not religious or even pious ppl, these were rebels on the run from the law? And religious ppl are "the wise" as far as the Bible is concerned (idiots, iow) he who says he knows does not yet know

@mordant "It all gets codified into tribal dogmas (religion) in the end. Whether it's the Holy Roman Church or Bedside Baptist or just little old you telling people what's true and what's false, it's all the same." well, it does if you do that, yes. But now see what you have said becomes the reasoning for why the truth must be hidden: nations of ppl grow to a point where they demand a king, ppl want to be led, "sheep" iow, and so if one wants to "believe" that they might say some Magic Words in a mortgaged building they call "church" to a guy who has made a deal with the king (501, 6, c3, 6, 1023, 6) and then they will go up to heaven after they have died (mithraism), they can certainly do that, but they will be made to be hypocrites by their own Manual, see. Leave the camp, come out of her, my people, scapegoat, it's all in There ok, just in code. "Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power." see, just what you want too right, if you focus on the end, practical part and ignore the big, flowery, meaningless part at the beginning?
Iow you are exactly correct, most ppl will do what you say, and you now have a means for IDing those types and being advised accordingly? Bc trust me the authors of the Bible consider them idiots. Anarchy is not Chaos.

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I think if you said mad at religion you would get more Yes answers than mad at god

Myah Level 6 July 26, 2019

some people think there is no difference--but the poll wasn't seeking any type of answer

@Ruby_Slipper thanks for your helpful comment, thanks for ignoring the comments of people who say they were/are mad at god and the people who voted that they were/are. Blind ignorance is rampant and thanks for reinforcing that concept. I must have struck a nerve but my innocuous post because you're mad at god and won't admit it? Because that would be a death sentence for someone as astute as you? b

@lerlo The billy goats gruff are missing you. Their bridge needs its troll. The fairytale has no meaning without you.

@Ruby_Slipper and only someone like you could quote a fairy tale--keep it up genius

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How am I going to be mad at something I don't believe in? Mad at "god"?? That's like being angry at Santa Claus.

Angry at religion, however? Of course I am. Religion has been invested in the repression of women for centuries. I'm not down with that $hit.

I take from your comment that God and religion are separate

@Ruby_Slipper Wow --new concept to you that religion and god may be inseparable? Ok genius walk me through how my comment makes me a religious believer--I can't wait

@lerlo I refuse to interact with trolls. Crawl back under the bridge you came from.

@Ruby_Slipper apparently you have nothing else to do and I will continue to defend my right to post as I feel necessary and deal with the less competent as they come my way. The only people who cry "troll" here are the people with no arguments to the contrary and who think that such a cry will get them noticed. You've succeeded in being noticed as someone without a clue or who is mad at god and is afraid to admit it. I'll be here as long as you will unless admin decides to admonish you for your personal attacks.

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I don't want to click the option that says I am possibly unsure. I am completely sure.

See the "or?"

@lerlo noooooooooooo not even a possibility aaaaahhhhhhhhhhh

@lerlo Would it have broken your fingers to put in a third vote instead of using "or"??

@Normanbites You're free to make your own post but thanks for thinking of my fingers

@lerlo My shop has finger crushers galore. Feel free to borrow them at any time!!

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Your opinion is noted.

what, no prize?

@lerlo Perhaps you can consider your prize is being able to have and to freely express your opinion.

@jlynn37 Well I didnt know you were recording all my opinions, at least I know who to contact if I forget one. Mind telling me how you discerned any opinion from the post? I'm pretty sure you don't know how I voted.

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Why would anyone in the right mind be 'mad' at something that has NEVER existed in the first place?
Can any SANE person get angry at finding completely invisible, non-existent Unicorn shit on their front lawn or path?
I seriously think that you, Sir, are 'barking up the wrong tree' with your comment since, imho, and speaking only for myself as any of us can only truly do, I rejected the 'God Hypothesis' in early childhood, around 8 years of age, simply because it wasn't logical enough, had nothing but a single book to support it, no tangible evidence to be shown, tested, tried and either proven nor refuted by empirical measures amd. last but by NO means least, it required and DEMANDED its followers to have unshakable, undying, unquestioning Faith in it.
My take on the whole " the bible is the Truth" ideology is that IF that be so then EVERY book, be it fiction or Non-fiction but especially fiction, must be considered and deemed exactly the same without exception.
For one CANNOT have one without the other, can one?

@Triphid So you have absolutely no problem understanding why people believe in god, you just can't fathom how they could believe in it and be mad at it. Makes perfect sense to me 😉

@lerlo As a Qualified Psychologist speaking here, I can state that I DO have difficulty understanding WHY people choose to follow religions when they are simply based upon myths/legends/assumptions/ superstitions and baseless fairy-tales.
I do NOT actually detest nor hate those whom I choose to refer to as being Faithfools BUT I do abhor those absolutely insane, irrational beliefs, etc, that actually cause their followers to DEMEAN both themselves and their children with their senseless rhetoric.

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Which god?

You pick, now answer

I’m really pissed at Odin today. Yesterday I was mad at Allah.

@BD66 You too! Why don’t they do what they say they’ll do? That bloody son of Jah was supposed to be coming round with his horse to fix the planet out the back but oh no! 2,000 years we’ve been waiting!

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Looks like 98.9 of us don't believe, and 1.1% are mad at the imaginary man in the sky.

BD66 Level 8 July 26, 2019

but really how often are we honest with ourselves when it puts us in a less than wonderful light? Of course someone who is "mad at God" and suffering from the effects of a religion in their nation/community might rather say "there is no God," yeh? "Imaginary Man in the Sky" see, you are agreeing with the Bible even, Galileans (="jerk-offs," basically, "circle-jerks" ), why do you stand there looking up into the sky?

who is "us" btw. I mean, no offense, but see how you are positing an "us" that favors your opinion? When the actual #s are much closer to the ezack opposite?

If m mad at him for being imaginary with all the nonsense he’s put people through!

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In my case, anger at "god" led me to the realization there is no God, and the anger went away.

thanks for your comment, maybe you can explain to the people who are incredulous here that such a belief could exist.

@lerlo All kinds of beliefs exist that are believed without any evidence to support those beliefs, it's called faith.

“We either base our 'confidence' on reason (evident probabilities, past experience, competence, etc) or we base our beliefs on faith, which is blind by definition. Faith is the most dishonest position it is possible to have, because it is an assertion of stoic conviction that is assumed without reason and defended against all reason. If you have to believe it on faith, you have no reason to believe it at all.”― AronRa

@zblaze really like the quote you referenced. And thank you for your comment. Saved me the trouble. 😉

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I think you are a bit confused. There are some people who used to believe in a god, but came to the realization that there was no real evidence for one, based on what they had expected that particular god to be like. They stop believing because of the apparent lack of evidence, not because they were angry at some god. Maybe some were angry for having been duped in the first place.

I never really had any belief and I get really tired of people telling me that I must be angry at some thing that I don't even believe in.

I'm not confused at all and if you read the comments from the people who say they are mad at god, it is possible. I'm not accusing you of being mad at anything, it's just a choice. Some people decided god didn't exist one way, some people never stop believing but are just mad. Some were mad and then stopped believing. Happy for you to show me where I told you you were mad at god

@lerlo I get the feeling that you are looking for an argument. Lighten up, learn to laugh. Just a suggestion.

@itsmedammit which part of me being confused wasn't an argument? 😉

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I can’t be mad at nothing!

Nobody doesn't like Sara Lee

@lerlo Right?!

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Your assessment appears incorrect.

As does your spelling 🙂 As one comment probably correctly concluded, people might not admit being angry with god. Some of the comments get pretty angry over a pretty innocuous post. Why would someone who is not angry with god get upset about the suggestion that some people are angry with god unless I hit a nerve? A couple people had no problem admitting that they were once angry with god.

@lerlo read this.
[sciencealert.com]

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What reason would I have to be angry with your imaginary friend?

the same reason you used to believe in it?

@lerlo Not past the time I would have believed in other nonsense like Fat Men in Flying Sleighs. I never really believe in any of it as much as my peers did.
But playing along seemed to make people happy.

You should find another place to try to convert/brainwash people.

We're pretty damn inoculated against your silly virus here.

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i'm a secular hindu

which means?

@lerlo I believe our consciousness is pure awareness and apart from our body and mind. I believe that awareness flows thru everything and is the substratum of reality upon which the entangled particles bond flows to create the spooky action at a long distance thus breaking the EPR paradox.

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Fishing for 8?

Nope, but that's the way the site is set up. Love when people read their own problems/views into a post or tell me it's b.s. but haven't read the comments, for instance in this case, where people admit to being mad at god.
p.s. 300 points total from the post, think that helped me towards 50,000? 😉

@lerlo don't hurt.

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Just never, ever believed. It made no sense to five-year-old me, and all the rituals creeped me out so I never gave it any further consideration.

Even before I checked your profile I knew you were English. How strange.

what ("the fuck" implied, imo) did you go out into the wilderness to see?

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How can you be mad at something that does not exist ? Could be mad at the silly sods that shove religious nonsense down your throat.

Okay, hard for me to believe that no one understands the post so let me explain it. Do you agree or believe that people believe in God.? If you say no then I can't help you. if someone believes in God and God lets them down, they get mad at God. If you don't believe me, read some of the comments below where people say they were mad at God or they are mad at God. if you also think that everyone on this site is either agnostic or atheist I also can't help you. To reiterate, people who don't believe in God will not be mad at it. People who do or did believe in God could be mad at it, the end.

@lerlo noting the repeated insistence that God does not exist yet? Fwiw the relationship of Atheists to Fundamentals has been well documented...ah,ipad, can't import Gsearches, but whole books on the subject.

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The existence or non- existence of a god/gods is irrelevant to me. The disregard for separation of church and state in government are topics relevant.

I hope you find those posts

politics and religion are necessary to each other, vital even i guess. Obviously the "existence" or non- of a God or gods is paramount to your existence lol, regardless of your feelings on the matter

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I am mad at people who ask me if I am mad at God.

That happen alot does it?

@lerlo More often than I would like.

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