I know that this quote has been used at least a few times here, but I will use it again:

The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully. - Richard Dawkins in his book The God Delusion

The bible is moronic because it was written by ignorant Iron Age goat herders who thought sacrificing a calf would bring them luck and prayed to gods that they themselves made up. It's a reflection of its time.

Why anyone still takes it seriously today is bewildering.

It is just as likely as a loving god, and moreso if you’re judging by lack of evidence for a loving god. But the lack of evidence for either outweighs the likelihood of either.

This line of reasoning could be helpful to doubting Christians, as it approximately summarizes my journey from theism to atheism though. It was reinforced by the clear lack of evidence, but in personal terms the thing that gave me the courage to abandon what I thought was a personal relationship with god was the realization that god is either cruel, hates me in particular, or doesn’t exist. Occam’s razor and my rational mind’s victory over paranoia thankfully led me to the realization that it is most definitely the latter option. There’s no reason to feel like the universe is intentionally hostile. It’s a randomly cruel mystery of probability. Everything tends towards entropy and chaos is the law of this existence. You can consider chaos a god like Kali, or you can accept that life is tough and give it hell right back.

Of course gods are imperfect. They were created by man in his image

Were we created in his image? That's proof that he's highly flawed. If there was an inkling of truth to any creation theory it was explained in "The Wizard of Oz" Using belief and fear to control the masses. I've been aware since I was 12 when my parents couldn't answer my questions about the movie. We as humans don't live long enough to ponder the theory of existence. To me it's just a stop along the way in life. The only fact or evidence we have is belief.

I used to be same as them. Until I was told to quit asking questions. Truth is MOST Christians have not read their Bible. They are surprised all the time when directed to passages that contradict what they've been taught.

Most probably not. Using Occam's razor, the simple answer is; the cosmos is exactly what is expected when there is no god.

"If there is a God he is a malign thug."

~ Mark Twain

The reason that the christian god is a sexist, racist, homophobic bastard is that he was modeled after the primitive men who created him.

You are correct. If you look closely at Christian theology and mythology, the notion of a loving father disappears, revealing the image of the ultimate egomaniac who would sentence any and all human beings to an eternity of pain and horror for the simple reason that the person chose not to worship him. Similarly, the image of an omnipotent and omniscient god falls apart. Supposedly, he created Satan. How can ultimate good create ultimate evil -- and why? And, if he had created Satan by error, he goofed. I could go on with thousands of examples.

To answer you're question-

"Isn’t there clear evidence that the supreme something that created the universe is an unjust twisted psycho?"

The best answer is "I don't know. I'm agnostic"

To the best evidence I see - and see more of every day....gods are myths, stories made up in imaginations...

ag·nos·tic
/aɡˈnästik/

noun. a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena; a person who claims neither faith nor disbelief in God.
synonyms - sceptic, doubter, questioner, doubting Thomas, challenger, scoffer, cynic;

adjective: agnostic. relating to agnostics or agnosticism.
synonymskeptical, doubting, questioning, unsure, cynical, unbelieving, disbelieving, nonbelieving, faithless, irreligious;

you are preaching to the choir

If there is a God, and he/she is as all powerful as the bible, Koran, and torah say, and the apocalypse happens and I face God for the final judgement, my only question would be "Why? what are you trying to prove? that you are all powerful? And who are you trying to prove it to? Me? Or is there a pantheon of gods, each with a universe that they have created and are in competition to see who can rule over it better? If so, this is stupid!

Besides, isn't Santa Clause almost the same as God? "he's making a list, checking it twice, gonna find out who's naughty or nice... he see's you when you're sleeping, he knows when you're awake, he knows when you've been bad or good, so be good for goodness sake!..."

Justice and evil are human developed concepts. Is it just; is it evil that the rabbit is bound to get eaten by a coyote. It is neither. It is just the way of things.

You put too much effort into preaching to the converted or, perhaps, more accurately, the unconvertible. You don't have to stoop down to the believers' level.

Isn’t there clear evidence that the supreme something that created the universe is an unjust twisted psycho?

No.

1. It's not a one person effort. Mankind's invention was by committee, evolving over time to satify several needs to explain thing they don't understand. Where we come from? Where we going? What is with that rainbow? Where does the sun go?

I know! Let's make up a story. We'll throw in some talking animals just for giggles.

2. What can we say these dim bulbs get their butts in line?

God will get you! He's a freaking crazy guy/gal/head of a family of God. Better say a lot of nice things. God's crazy. How about some praise songs to calm God's butt down? Can't tell about that thing. Let me tell you another story.

3. We'll need regular services so you won't forge. Throw in some administrative costs like a private jet for the head knocker.

No I don't think that it exists. But even if it did then the evidence does not really support the idea of evil, or that it is evil, the idea of evil is just a human made up illusion just as much as god and the devil. And in any case there is a third possible which seems to fit the evidence more closely, which is not good or evil, but just sublime majestic and cold indifference, which sees us and our feelings as not even important, much like nature really.

And it is also important not to take too simplistic a view of our sufferings. Pain in many ways is a gift from evolution/nature and is a good thing. If I put my hand on the hot stove it hurts, yes, but if it did not hurt, then I would possibly leave my hand there until it was badly damaged, which would not be good. So how is that pain bad for me ? And the same rule applies to even more complex pain. Perhaps I feel lonely, that hurts, yet how is it good for me not to engage with others like me and the community ? Pain and pleasure are the carrot and stick which nature uses to make us run. The idea of evil is a primitive idea, to try and explain them, from the days of the bronze age, when things like evolution and its meaning were not understood.

Read this: The Owner of All Infernal Names by John Zande and the "sequel" The Problem of Good: [amazon.com]

Don't worry about what the guy was like once you have left him. Look are the new world. You are free now.

Those things you mention don't prove that a god is fake, only that it is not as described on specific boxes (typically Abrahamic, though mostly through the Christian lense). All that people who bring p these arguments show is that "this specific god who is described as all loving and all knowing etc., but is unloving and unjust, just cannot logically exist as you describe it. It doesn't say anything for the millions of gods that are not described as all those omni qualities.
Others have already gone over the positive claim vs. negative claim, so I'll let that go.

What you are saying is a version of Thomas Aquinas' "first mover" "proof" of God. He had 5. There are many things that I cannot explain or prove, that doesn't mean I need to assign a deity to it.

The biblical "god" is a manifestation of the violent hunter-killer male dominant human mind, via the left brain, and nothing more."God" is not the problem. We MEN are.

I haven't read up on it much, but there is debate out there that Satan (and yes I know it's just a story) was actually defying God's bad commands and is actually the good one.

There are forces of evil and there are forces of good, initially I tried being good but the forces of good looking out for me were not strong enough and the force of evil was easily able to take over, so I stopped going to church and decided not to pray to that force of all-good anymore. I hope there is a force out there that is helping me and will continue to do so.

well, no, there is no evidence that the creator was twisted, because there is no evidence that there was a creator at all. the fictional creators, of whom there are many, tend to be portrayed as twisted by our standards. it doesn't matter because they ARE fictional. many have made note of their unreasonableness. it's not exactly a new concept. the concept itself has been twisted to convince religionists that there are no true atheists, only people who believe in a god but are angry at him or hate him. that is ridiculous of course but railing against an unjust god when there is no more an unjust god in the universe than there is a just one does give these people ammunition.

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