Hi. I’m new and am curious. Does anyone else feel they have to pretend to believe in God in order to have friends and belong to organizations in a small town? I depend on my friends, family and organizations to avoid loneliness and have a social life and would most likely be ostracized if I shared my beliefs.
It is that way in my workplace as well and here is how I handle the pretense. To start with I do not talk religion. When it does come up and gets to that level I tell everyone that I used to be religious and I studied to be a Pentecostal preacher, however, I am no longer religious. That usually ends it all. When it fails and some idiot asks me why I no longer believe I will correct them by saying "you are putting words in my mouth, as I said I am no longer religious." Since none of these people are twice or more a week church people who cannot wait for the church house doors to open, this usually does the trick.
The bottom line is that they are people just like you, and this applies to most people. I also live and work in small town areas. I currently have no social life but you should not allow others to limit yours.
I do not mind pretending I believe in god .Its no skin off my back .Whats the big deal about pretending you believe in fairytales .I find it amusing and akin to bolstering your child’s belief in Santa Claus .This concern is at the very bottom of the priority list In my life .
You cannot seriously live your life in a constant state of denial and pretence, that is not a life it’s just an existence. You don’t need to announce to everyone that you don’t believe, but neither should you deny it if asked. If people cannot accept the real you, then their friendship isn’t worth having, because true friends don’t judge.
I do so agree!!
This should not be important to you .Remember your family and friends were most likely taught to believe in god from birth and were brainwashed to possibly think negatively towards nonbelievers.So why take a chance and Alienate yourself from good people
I live in a rural Illinois town of less than 18,000. Very. very Jesus-y here! don't pretend to be Christian or theist, but I am very low key about my atheism. I don't mention it unless directly interrogated. That means I spend a lot of time listening to acquaintances drone on about their "loving god" while I silently smile through pursed lips.
Same here with relatives there
There is a group here of folks from the belt, or who have lived in the belt, or who support those who are there still.
Not so "tiny".
@KKGator I first realized how culturally different TX can be when I had to deal with a noisy neighbor there. I was stationed in TX, and my neighbor went drinking every night, then around 2 AM would blast Hank Williams Sr, awaken me, and the kids, when I had to be at work in 2 hrs.
I talked to the local PD after work one day to see what might be their advice for my neighbor. They said they knew him and he always did that.
I said "what time of day is it legal to blast music?"
They said "8 AM, but if I do that and it riles him up, and things get "downright nasty", make sure his heels are over your doorstep before you shoot him. If his heels are inside your door when we get there, No problem. Otherwise we will be arresting you, that is, if things get nasty."
@Davesnothere I absolutely believe you were given that "advice".
Back in the early 60s, my grandparents' Hollywood, FL home had been
burglarized 4 times inside of 6 months. After the 4th time, my grandfather was speaking with one of the responding officers and asked what his rights were regarding using lethal force? He was told, "Just make sure you drag the body inside the house, BEFORE we get here."
Ahh, life in the South. Gotta love it!
Btw, whenever I say "bless your (his/her/its) heart", I'm usually saying "fuck him/her/it".
I can even do it in text. Bless. Your. Heart. (that's not at you)
LOL
@freeofgod One thing the south and southwest have that has real tentaclesin my heart with is food. Blackened catfish from Louisianna, crabs from the lost coast, chicken fried steak in Arkansas, and Chilis from Tx
The list is near endless.
I've found that most people who believe in an imaginary friend will just assume that you do too. The only time it comes up is when they say something religious based that is so hypocritical, ignorant and mind numbingly stupid that I feel the urge to comment, I try to bite my tongue for the most part because its just never worth it. Those times that I do say something serves to get the word out there to others that I am not 'one of god's children' and it keeps them away for the most part - I don't enjoy their company so it works for me. Being alone is much better than being surrounded by a bunch of ignorant hypocrites that make a person feel very lonely but not alone.
Luckily, the people I spend the most time with are extremely liberal,even the Christians.
My dad tried to use the Bible to support his bigoted idiocy once. I told him flat out that I didn't believe in the Bible, so I don't care what it says about anything.
@PhoebeCat It is a horrible read, fantastical to the point of unbelievable but it is always a good idea to know the enemy and what makes them tick.
I've read it. He hasn't.
I can use the Bible to refute his beliefs. It's just a total waste of my time.
@PhoebeCat Looks like we got us a Reader! Very true, Xstians like to just cherry pick a verse here and there as it suits them, they learn to do that in church. lol
Welcome. small towns and their religiousness is annoying to say the least. I can't really offer any advice - I'm a loner by nature - be as true to yourself as possible and ya always have this site for virtual hugs.
Back when I felt I had to pretend, I still wasn't 100% sure how I even felt about my own position. But now that I am fully confident in my own worldview, I neither feel like I have to hide my views nor advertise them. It's nobody's business. But if it comes up, I don't feel an educated view ever has to take a backseat to an uneducated view. Ever. Under any circumstances.
I would rather be hated for who I am, than liked for who I'm not. Being honest won't get you many friends, but it will get you the right ones.
Not for me. I even take a service user to his church, where I'm sure they almost all know that I'm an atheist. Great coffee and pieces (cakes, cookies and biscuits)
There are some strong Christian denominations in this part of Scotland, but they seem more concerned with calling each other daemons and heretics than bothering with me.
I understand where you are coming from but I have never subscribed to that notion...which has not been easy. I would rather be true to myself and my own beliefs and be lonely, quite frankly. An authentic life is the only one worth living IMHO.
How often do religion or religious beliefs come up in daily life? Virtually never for me. In 55 years as a member of the working press I never discussed religion with coworkers. Neither with neighbors did religion come up except in general terms. No one ever challenged my "absurd man" (see Albert Camus) identification nor was I curious about the beliefs of others. I'm amazed at all the talk on Agnostic about confrontations on religion.
I live in a small mostly conservative Christian, pro-tRUMPf, town and I don't really keep in much contact with local friends nor do I join local organizations because I don't want to have to pretend to believe in a god or, at a minimum, keep my mouth shut. However, I am thinking about visiting the Unitarian Universalist church. They won't care that I am an atheist; and, I am sure, will be more politically compatible.
I shared the same fear. When my x-wife found out I did not believe she told everyone she could to shame me. It did not work. I now have an atheist a tattoo on my forearm and a atheist oriented YouTube channel. I am ver much out and to my surprise I have had very little pushback. Much of it is I am very confident in my position, generally know more about their religion than they do, and I simply try to be nice. I just don't get defensive about others misconceptions.
Yes, it is all in the delivery. Your x-wife sure must be angry with you.
@Jolanta Yeah we did get a divorce. I am lucky to have found a woman that understands how the indoctrination affected me and is supportive of my desire to help others escape religious cults.
Im in a religious community as well and my children who are in 4th grade public elementary school are open and proud of their atheism. I'm not hiding their right to believe what they want and even respectfully challenge others on their own beliefs, when and where appropriate. I feel the more of us that come out and arent affraid to hide the better.
I faked it so my mom would shut up. The woman was a professional victim of ungrateful children. Avoidance was my best means of coping while I lived in her house. Once I was out of there, everything changed.
My kids had the same problem with their mother. I have seen it and feel for you.
Not me. As a an atheist since age 13, I'm out and proud.
Hasn't hurt my friendships, family or loving relationships.
People love me for who I am.
No I don't pretend to be something I'm not, I'm atheist and everyone knows. I don't care what anyone thinks about me.