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If any of our agnostic friends happens to be experiencing a crisis, let me know. I might be of some help. In addition, we have several other retired counselors and therapists on the site. Reach out.

mischl 8 Mar 26
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Who are these retired therapists?? 😮

Probably on way to one bday is coming and fam is toxic trash, but especially during typically celebratory days i.e. holidays and bdays

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That's a really kind and compassionate gesture 😊

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I am terrified of catching it and of having it.

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Was talking on line to a very good and trusted friend last evening who works at the C.S.L. ( Commonwealth Serum Laboratories) in Australia and she recommends using a spray called " Glen 20" (which is available here to spray both around the home on yourself and clothing when you need to venture out for groceries, etc.
It IS a strong disinfectant and they've tried and tested in the Labs.

If it has 60-70% alcohol content, it would be a good one 😊

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Im not thinking of harming myself or anyone else but I feel my anxiety ramping up since I work retail and being treated like shit by customers and co-workers.

The anniversary of my brother's death almost a year ago approaches and I worry I will just lose my shit soon and end up fired.

My daugher is diabetic and asthmatic; my granddaughter also has asthma; my grandson accidently drank pool acid a few years ago so has stomach issues so I worry every day that I am bringing it home to them.

OMG Lucy, you do have a predicament. First off, I learned a long time ago that I cannot work retail. Dealing with the public is not my strong suit. I admire anybody who can do it and stay sane. In addition to that, I'm a proponent of radical honesty. And I tended to tell people the truth. So, haha, retail is out for me. I did, in fact, "lose my shit" once upon a time, and yes I got fired. And I'm glad I did.

If you're serious about doing some work with me, send me a PM and we can talk about it.

All that I can suggest atm, is try to keep a positive outlook for both yourself and your family.
I understand that it IS a hard thing to do but it will help in the long term.

@mischl Fortunately I go in so early that most of my time is spent not having to deal with customers but they are not really what bothers me as it is just part of the job. I find myself getting upset about people a bit higher up using stress as an excuse to dump on subordinates. I normally push back but I have been biting my lip because I just know what will happen if I go back at them right now.

I may take you up on your offer. Thank you

@Lucy_Fehr Lucy, you might not want to take "career" advice from me, a guy who's never held down an actual job since the age of 30. That's when I became self-employed and was ever since. I actually told a VP of that last company I worked for to take his job and shove it. About a year later, I saw him at a party and he apologized for the way he treated me.

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Thank you for your concerns and willingness to help.

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That is such a good idea....I’m sure before this crisis is over, many may need to avail of these services offered. Thank you.

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Thank you

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Nice of you to offer, any type of crisis you're referring to?

,Yes, I guess chiefly "personal" crises. Anything that prompts a person to think of harming the self or someone else

@mischl wow, serious stuff. But somehow I can't picture non believers into thinking either.

@Mofo1953 I haven't noticed a big difference in believers vs. us heretics. SOME believers get some degree of help from their pastoral counselor / preacher. But it's usually pretty much surface level. As in, "pray over it," etc.

@mischl anectdotal evidence aside, my experience with non believers is that we are much less worried or even obsessed with death than believers.

@Mofo1953 I know, for myself, I'm unafraid of death. But from a logical point of view, most atheists know death to be The End. Whereas believers have the delusion of life hereafter.

@mischl my personal experience is that non believers view death as a natural part of life, we are all born and we all die.

@Mofo1953 The prospect of "totally ceasing to exist" is terrifying to many people, both believers and others. But I like to tell people, "You totally didn't exist before you were born, right? Did it hurt?"

@mischl if by others you mean not believers I have not seen it here.

@Mofo1953 I'm guessing that's not something people typically like to admit. But in my counseling work, I've run across plenty of people who don't profess a religion but are freaked out about dying.

@mischl actually what I've seen here is not denial or anything similar, but actual plans for when they will die. Again, anectdotal, like your plenty of people.

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Do we really? Who are they? 😮

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Are people just discovering they're going to die? I'm not anxious. Mildly irritated and bored with no other topic of news but yesterday at the shops was a delight with so few people there. I'm not fond of crowds. I'm pissed off my gym is shut but went for an hour's walk along the beach.

My no.3 son has the virus. Recently back from Europe, he and partner self-isolated straight away before diagnosis. He's young and strong so I'm optimistic. If he doesn't make it, I have 3 other sons. Curiously, the partner didn't contract it.

If he doesn't make it, you've got 3 other sons????

@Freespirit64 no big deal, right?

I hope this is an example of the dark humor you reference in your bio.

A son her . A son there. What's a son any way? =0}

Well No3 pulled through much to his brothers’ disappointment because Inheritance still to be divided 4 ways. The great cultural humour divide! How do you guys even GET Ricky Gervais?

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I billion very earnest Hugs plus an extra billion smiles to try and cheer you up to everyone, including genessa and her guy and their respective families from me.

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But I don't know if I'm having a crisis.

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Yes, please reach out, DO NOT try to handle it alone.
I'm a semi-retired Youth and Child in Crisis Counselor but can work with adults as well so just drop me a message any time PLEASE.

Thanks for offering to help. I'm not naming any of the other counselors I know about. Rather, would rather them identify themselves.

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i am terrified. my guy has alzheimer's. he cannot be trusted to bring food deliveries in without using a disinfectant wipe, keeping track of what he touches, wiping everything down (i will wipe each item down) and not touching his clothes or his face, and then wash his hands. i feel as if he is increasing our chances of drowning in our own blood. i am 68 with asthma and diabetes, among other ailments, and he is 71 and a half with myotonic dystrophy, which i have probably misspelled. we are vulnerable. we are self-isolating and that in itself isn't so bad as we neither work nor party, but the whole point of the isolation is to stay safe and i feel he is endangering us. i can't make him change so i am terrified.

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Sending a virtual hug.

I wish there was some way I could breach the distances seperating us my friend so I could get you your vital necessities without risking introducing the virus into your lives, but most sadly and unfortunately I cannot so please forgive me.
All i can do is to offer up what emotional support I can and my ardent hopes that you both will ride out this pandemic safe and sound.
Please remember, though the distances are great, I am here and will listen if and when you need me as a sounding board.

I hear your worry and frustration. I hope there are community resources available.

Sounds more like OCD than Alzheimer's.

If he is unaware or unable to understand the dangers he's putting you both in, you have a difficult problem to cope with. Normally, I would recommend you contact your local county health services. In these time, that option might not be available. One way or another, you need to prevent him from going into situations where he might pick up the infection. Is that possible? Can you do the necessary chores?

My wife and I (okay, mostly my wife), operate an assisted living facility--a small one, 13 beds--so I understand and empathize. Wish there were something we could do, if only to give you some rest. But alas, we're separated by too many miles. Feel free to direct message, if you'd like. Take care.

@MizJ thanks. 🙂)

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@Triphid thank you 🙂)

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@UUNJ not for what i have described, but we have food deliveries that are like meals on wheels, and we have someone who will shop and run errands for us once a week. at least we won't starve lol. but with each item we bring into the house there is a risk.

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@Sgt_Spanky he has that too. he has both. he has more, in fact. but what keeps him from understanding and remembering the precautions, even if i JUST told him, is the alzheimer's.

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@mischl i really can't, though i do what i can. i can't lift heavy things or bend well, the bending being variable with the asthma much as arthritis. ain't age wunnnnnerful? 🙂) so i have to keep an eye on him. he isn't as far gone as you might imagine, so you forget, talking to him, that he won't remember. i know his limitations but he surprises me too sometimes.

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@p-nullifidian thanks. i might!

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@genessa No need for thanks at all though they are greatly appreciated anyway.
Stay, Safe, Stay Well, and Stay Strong my friend, I'm thinking of you.

@genessa I put my non perishable food items that are brought to me or I buy in the garage for at least 24 hours before I bring them in the house. I hope you have some way to Isolate non perishable food items somewhere that he does not realize they are at. I have a friend with a husband with alzeimers. I am thankful every day that she gave up and let him be placed in a nursing home 3 weeks ago.

My heart goes out to you in your situation and hope this is over soon.

@Lorajay I keep a squirt bottle of bleach cut 1:4 with water handy, and several wipe cloths at the front door and the garage entrance. Everything gets wiped down.

@mischl We do not have any bleach and thr shelves are empty where bleach used to be sold.

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@mischl I use the 3rd cup to a gallon of waters for sanitizing all hard surfaces often. I dip all tin cans in it before bringing them in the house I wipe down others with lysol wipes and spray others with lysol aerosol.

@Lorajay pets here so no lysol, not that we have it in the house. we have a half a can of disinfectant wipes and half a bottle of isopropyl alcohol. we can't find any of this stuff in local stores (we have someone going out to help us and she can't find them). people are hoarding.

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@genessa try the hardware stores.

@TimeOutForMe i will suggest that to her. She only comes by once a week and only has two hours and a mileage limit

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@genessa I hope you come right. Huge pharmacies also stock them. Keep safe and well 😊

@TimeOutForMe thanks. you too!

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