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Goodbye message from OwlInaSack:

Admin has suspended my account (I’m not sure why) – but understanding the new direction for Agnostic, it’s perhaps time for me to move on anyway. So thanks to so many of you for great conversations, challenges, new information, friendship and occasionally support. I am going to really miss the Gardeners in particular! And so many individuals here.
If you are travelling to the Channel Islands please do get in touch – and @Allamanda has my contact details!

  • I'm adding this as I see there's a lot of confusion - as he understands it, I gather, he was deleting information on his profile prior to leaving and triggered an immediate lock-out. It was not something he said.
Allamanda 8 Aug 12
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I read all of the comments regarding the new site but since he has been blocked, I cannot see his comments.

I am sorry he is gone because he did offer an interesting perspective. I will have to agree that in my opinion he was sometimes abrasive. That said I will still miss him because my true passion is trying to understand why people come to the conclusions they profess.

Many of as on this site including me would be better communicators if we prefaced our opinions with the fact that they were opinions instead of indisputable facts.

You always have such wisdom to impart. And I sure enjoyed that game you started the other day. Thank you for both!

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I’m in shock! Why have they suspended him?

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We disagreed in several areas but I did not know him to be abusive or deceitful. WTF? Thx for the update, Allamanda.

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He was one of my favourites and I don't have many but us Owlpeople tend to flock together. Very sorry to see him go and to be honest I have been thinking about packing it in myself.

Re-think it, I personally really enjoy your humor.

All thinking people do from time to time. I think that's the nature of social media.

As a person who has had many friends leave the site - consider what is best for you. That's all you can do. ❤

Thankfully we have gathered on FB.

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I'm in shock that Admin has suspended OwlinaSack. He had amazing posts and comments. I really respected his intelligent communication. Why did this happen to him and to us? It is outright sad to deprive us of his input. I hope enough people protest it, and he is allowed to freely share his thoughts again.

@Allamanda
I'm unaware of recent events on Agnostic that could preclude OwlInaSack's input.
What kind of trouble were the mysterious events?

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What a shame

Seems like all the best members are dropping out of here lately.

@Spectator

Is that so?

What are his true thoughts?

@Spectator

Oh yeah. I've seen it before. The admin posted it in the community senate.

@Spectator

Yeah, he really doesn't care for those woke weirdos.

I guess he has to stick to the guidelines and be fair as possible.

What was your user name here before he gave you the boot?

@Spectator

You too? Yeah I know what that's like.

So you back just to observe the drama as it unfolds?

@Spectator

Good to hear from you again. I was wondering if you would pop up sometime.

I created a profile over there yesterday but haven't been very active yet.

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Damn.. I really enjoyed his comments and political insights. I'm somewhat surprised, but not at all shocked by his suspension since his strong comments and viewpoints seemed to really anger some members here. I guess the rules concerning civility on these forum boards have changed. Too bad the rules haven't been spelled out clearly anytime recently, at least not that I've noticed. I'm always against using an iron fist first rather than later if people haven't already been warned or informed what will get them suspended or banned before the punishment is meted out.

Does anybody know what he may have been referring to when he says " The new direction for Agnostic"?

@Allamanda
Am I next? I'm from South Africa 😂

@Allamanda 🤣🤣🤣

@Allamanda not yet?

@Allamanda that's a trail for a name 🤣🤣🤣

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A shame. One Brit less.

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Well that sorta sucks. I enjoyed his comments. I get someone else may have had issues but he always seem decent to me. Let him know I said hello - don't think I'll get across the pond to visit and we're banned at the moment anyway. 🙂

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Wow. It would be nice if they let you know why. Maybe it is only for a short time or maybe it is a mistake.

He's a member of slug..

@Cutiebeauty Don't understand what you mean? He, who is he? and slug?

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...well I just feel it was wrong to knock him off like that. This site is full of mostly intelligent people - NOT PUPPETS. Debate, disagreement and difference in opinion is healthy. We no doubt learn from that. I certainly did.

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BTW I believe when you voluntarily leave the site your content is removed when you go.

I stand Corrected. I checked tonight and found content from several friends who have voluntarily left the site.

I do try to remember that anything I ever have written online is always out there somewhere. Whether it's that someone else has copied it? Or that it simply exists on a database - do remember not to post things you don't want read 10 years from now - or 10 minutes from now. Be prudent.

I have many good friends who left the site and in searching groups (They were in) I'm not finding their content.

The lock out most likely occurs to prevent folks from covering up some sort of flame war. (I would think). Or scammers from hiding their tracks. Not positive on that. I'm not that computer savvy.

@Leontion Databases know more about you than you do, 'they' don't forget.

@Spectator That is absolutely correct - and I've updated my comment to reflect - that I was entirely incorrect - this site doesn't delete your content if you leave. (And apparently safeguards from you doing so).

@RavenCT An admin could (willingly or inadvertently) delete as much as hasn't been backed-up by various means (cloud/RAID/ransomware/etc.).

@Leontion You can "Hide" you post from view - that probably is more effective than removal - it removes them from further comment. But please do approach administration - I absolutely don't know everything there is to know.

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That's unbelievable! WTF is going on?

I always thought of him as a decent guy I didn't see eye-to-eye with.

@TheMiddleWay If, as has been 'reported' here by Allamanda, he was deleting his content, I think removal would almost certainly be triggered (databases all have trigger features) automatically.

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Holy crap!!! Post this in the senate and tag @cs10. @admin

@OwlInaSack is a good guy!!! WFF!!

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That’s a shame, if you’re relating messages please say goodbye from me.

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I would really like to know why. I wish providing such explanations were the default. I just can't imagine OwlInaSack having said anything that would merit a permanent ban from the site.

I guess it may not have been permanent, but perhaps the last straw?

@girlwithsmiles Allamanda says in the below replies that it's permanent.

I agree bingst - I do wish there were an explanation when someone who is generally courteous gets suspended or removed from the site. It makes the rest of us wonder for a long time.
Particularly about what warrants such actions.

Repercussions shouldn't be hidden this way - that's far too Religious for my tastes.

@Allamanda He was politely telling people he was leaving (in a Senate Post) and got banned?

I'm flabbergasted.

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I list such things across social media on my FB page, Village of the Banned. I'll add this as the latest casualty

[m.facebook.com]

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Oh dear 🤔 sorry about that.

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Bye Owl, we hardly knew ye. Hootie Hoot !

TO_BY Level 7 Aug 13, 2020
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Sorry

bobwjr Level 10 Aug 12, 2020
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Seems a bit unethical to not even tell someone why they're being banned.

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I'm so sorry. Thats never fun

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Why am I getting the distinct impression this is a bit of theatrical grandstanding?

I don't think it's grandstanding to let the folks you have interacted with know why you are gone? And that you can be reached.

But YMMV.

I didn't always agree with him but I found his posts fascinating and I'll miss him.
I'm glad his leaving won't be a mystery.

@ravenct iyss

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Note: Apparently it was a temporary time out due to him removing his own content - a lot of his own content - which triggers something on the site to stop you from doing so. (Further comment below).

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well you can only be an asshole to so many people for so long I guess...

lerlo Level 8 Aug 12, 2020

@Allamanda you were curious for the reason--can you think of a better one?

@Allamanda "Admin has suspended my account (I’m not sure why) " Guess I should clarify--HE was looking for a reason

@Allamanda maybe the first time ever 😉

@Donotbelieve great comeback--you can take over where he left off. I'm here, he's not--you come up with the reason genius

@Donotbelieve just keep up the insults, you're taking over his position well. Nice to have such accommodating people here. Your time will come sooner than you think

@Donotbelieve you obviously give a fuck or you would shut the f up. Clear why you are the female version of him. VERY genteel

@Donotbelieve I love dealing with your type--insults always come when you have nothing to say--I'll be here as long as you keep it up

@Donotbelieve--you're defending him as he would, with nothing but insults--I'm sure you're proud to carry on his tradition--insults first and always--congratulations!!! you sure are showing who is boss and the smart one. Did you need more time to come up with those insults? Proud of your defense so far? Smart, astute little girl Pretty sure I didnt hurl an insult at you first, but just gave the reason he was suspended which of course you don't like because you have no legit arguments only insults like him

@Donotbelieve believe me, any one or any comment that disagrees with you is an insult--must be tough to be so sensitive but of course when you have no justifiable position or business responding to something that has nothing to do with you, that will happen. You probably think they kicked him out because he was smarter than everyone else and that is the sites' "new direction." Which means you won't be far behind being so much smarter than everyone else here, not withstanding the wonderful insults. Keep it up!!

@Donotbelieve that's all you got Ms. Character? No more witty insults? Nothing like just declaring that you're right, works every time for you doesn't it?

@Spectator yep, you can't cross the smartest woman in the world... 🤣🤣🤣

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