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In a poll 62% of Americans believe Putin would not have invaded Ukraine if Trump were president.
[theguardian.com]

Sierra4 8 Feb 26
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The levels of ignorance and stupidity in this country is fucking unbelievable.

And they are proud of that ignorance.

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Everything that HRC said has turned out to be accurate. Everything.

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Another assclown who did “his own research “.

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62% of Americans are stupid.

I think the 38% are stupid.

@Trajan61 and clearly some of the 62% are delusional.

@David1955 Not nearly as much as the 38%.

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And Putin didn’t under Trump. He waited for the wussy to get into office before moving.

Yeah, because Trump would have stopped him. Right. Makes sense if one is delusional.

@David1955 but he didn’t under Trump.

@CourtJester didn't want to make his asset look bad, did he? Obvious.

@David1955 but he didn’t invade Ukraine or anyone else.

@CourtJester asked and answered . No, on second thought, you're right.Putin is so scared of Trump, like the former KGB handler that he is, he wouldn't care risk confronting Trump over an invasion that Trump would have approved of anyway. You win genius.

@David1955 Children are dying under Biden and they didn’t under Trump. That’s what matters.

@CourtJester oh and here i thought it was Ukraine that worried you the most. Genius turns.

@David1955 but children are dying under Biden. Much like Afghanistan. You can’t argue the facts. Dead babies under Biden.

@David1955

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He wouldn't have had to. The POS tRump would have let him simply march in. Maybe even offered him some support. Of course look at the polls, 85% of Republicans and 38% of Democrats. It's not across the board.

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That's because:

Putin invaded the Ukraine during Obama's Presidency.
Putin did not invade the Ukraine during Trump's Presidency.
Putin invaded the Ukraine during Biden's Presidency.

The question is, what is wrong with the other 38%?

BD66 Level 8 Feb 26, 2022

If you stop to think about it (and clearly you haven’t) this pattern of invading/not invading makes perfect sense: Try to damage the prestige of strong, experienced presidents you despise (Obama, Biden) with a military adventure, and then do what you can to enhance the reputation of a weakling like Trump in order to increase his chance of being re-elected. Shrewd, calculating dictators like Putin and Kim Jong-Un played this loser like a fiddle, with his brain-addled fan club mindlessly dancing to the same tune.

@NostraDumbass OK, let's go back farther:

Carter: USSR invaded Afghanistan.
Reagan: No USSR invasions. USSR withdrew from Afghanistan.
GHWB: No USSR invasions. USSR falling apart.
Clinton: No USSR invasions. USSR falling apart.
GWB: No Russian invasions.
Obama: Russians invaded Ukraine (Crimea)
Trump: No Russian invasions.
Biden: Russians invaded Ukraine.

The weak presidents are the Democrats. The last two (Obama and Biden) are literally afraid of carbon dioxide, one of the two most important gas molecules on the planet! Trump has enough crazy in him, that Putin would not dare to do anything during his 4 years in office.

@BD66 So you’re a climate change denier too. Surprise, surprise. But nobody’s afraid of CO2, just like nobody’s afraid of water. But if you drink enough H2O it will kill you. Seriously, drink 3-4 litres of water in a few hours and see what happens. So the dose makes the poison. Same with CO2. Put enough of it into the atmosphere, and we will cook our planet. Get educated.

@Garban You guys are proving Goebbels correct:

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

@NostraDumbass I'm no denier. I've done my own research and number crunching and determined that when we run out of fossil fuels, the planet will be about 3 degrees C warmer than it is today. The Democratic fools who have been elected to Congress and the Presidency are willing to destroy our economy and bankrupt our country in an attempt to change something we have almost no power to change.

@Garban Here you go:

Donald Trump on Saturday claimed to be a supporter of Ukraine, days after saying Russian President Vladimir Putin was a “genius” for starting the invasion.

“The Russian attack on Ukraine is appalling. It’s an outrage, and an atrocity that should never have been allowed to occur,” he said Saturday night at CPAC. “We are praying for the proud people of Ukraine.”

Happy now?

[rollingstone.com]

@NostraDumbass

Hahaha.

Gas prices doubled, home prices up 50%, store shelves empty, highest inflation in over 40+ years, and Biden’s approval ratings are in the 30% range.

Put down the crack pipe.

@BD66 Are you a peer-reviewed and published climatologist?

@NostraDumbass No, I am not a climatologist, and I say that with a great deal of pride.

@Garban You can call someone "smart" and still be opposed to their actions. Does he have to call Putin "A big fat dummy"?

@BD66, @CourtJester So Putin wouldn’t have invaded the Ukraine if the shelves were fuller and the inflation was lower in America? Give up the glue, man.

@NostraDumbass When our country elected this man to be our commander in chief, it was an open invitation for dictators around the world to do whatever they wanted with little fear of a response from the United States.

@Garban

  1. You were confused by Trump's sarcasm.
  2. You wanted Trump to do the "honorable" thing, and clarify his position (without the sarcasm)
  3. Trump did so.

“The Russian attack on Ukraine is appalling. It’s an outrage, and an atrocity that should never have been allowed to occur,” he said Saturday night at CPAC. “We are praying for the proud people of Ukraine.”

I'm not expecting you to support Trump, just stop all the "Trump supports Putin" foolishness.

@BD66
They have nothing to brag about for Biden (the man’s dumber than a damn football bat) so their only option is to keep bashing Trump out of pure personal ignorance.

@Garban They have nothing to brag about for Trump (the man’s dumber than a…damn football bat [A football bat? What the fuck is that?]) so their only option is to keep bashing Biden out of pure personal ignorance. (Bash him with a football bat, I guess)????????????????????

@Garban Spend a few minutes looking over the posts on this site. The people are constantly posting "Republicans support Russia" "Republicans support Putin" "Trump supports Putin". You don't find anyone saying "Democrats support Russia" "Democrats support Putin" or "Obama supports Putin" or "Biden supports Putin". The Democrats are the ones engaging in the outrageous propaganda campaign, and I'm attempting to set the record straight and challenging the Democrats to provide some proof to those baseless claims.

@Garban
Absolutely not.
There’s no such thing as a good Democrat.

@NostraDumbass
Gas prices 100% lower than today
Didn’t start any wars
Putin didn’t invade any other countries
North Korea was kept in check
Lowest unemployment in American history
Lowest black unemployment in American history
Lowest female unemployment in American history

There’s plenty to brag about President Trump.
Now brag about Biden….

@Garban honesty is the key in any relationship

@Garban You can't make blanket statements about all Democrats or all Republicans. I don't believe the Democrats (as a group) are evil. They are just ignorant and misguided. They attempt to solve problems that they are not capable of solving. For example:

  1. The "War on Poverty" which was launched in 1964.
  2. The "War on Drugs" which both the Democrats and Republicans have pursued.
  3. Forcing banks to make subprime loans, and forcing Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to buy up the subprime loans. This eventually led to the subprime meltdown of 2008.
  4. Attempting to stop "climate change" when the world's two most populous countries, China and India, burn more fossil fuels all the time.
  5. Attempting to "cure cancer".

These are just a few. The price tag for all their misguided attempts to solve problems makes up a large portion of our $30,000,000,000,000 national debt.

The national debt cannot continue to grow at this rate for long, or the US dollar will cease to be the world's reserve currency, we will experience a sovereign debt default, and likely hyperinflation.

The Republicans aren't much better. Unfortunately we have a choice between the Republicans and a path to bankruptcy or the Democrats and a fast path to bankruptcy.

@NostraDumbass that guy can’t think past his ass.

Good question. Apparently they are just like the left wing close minded, brain washed nitwits on this website.

@BD66 No! Russia did not have to invade during a Repub pres, they just took over.

@dalefvictor What did they take over during Trump's presidency?

@BD66 I think Trump supports Putin, he said he was a genius for the invasion of Ukraine. Nuff said!

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We're in trouble.

skado Level 9 Feb 26, 2022

Wrong tense. You have been in trouble for years.

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If Trump were still president Zalensky would've been overthrown, maybe assassinated in a bloody coup d'etat. There'd be a puppet government in place.

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Same poll says 12% of Americans have never heard of Hilary Clinton, I'm a little skeptical of their reliability.

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Hard to believe that Putin would have been deterred by Trump’s flattery and butt-licking.

Funny how it worked out though

@CourtJester So anilingus does work, is what you’re saying.

@NostraDumbass I figured your GED would allow you to do better than that.

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He didn’t even need to be president. Maybe we should have taken Mr. Trump, gutted him, stuffed him with straw and put him on a stake at the Ukrainian-Russian border like a scarecrow. It worked for Vlad the Impaler with the Ottoman Turks …

They had one but I think it got damaged. Ha, ha.

@RichCC Pity: So realistic! 🤔

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I agree with the 62%. Russia is taking advantage of a weak president. We’ll be lucky if Taiwan doesn’t fall next with the idiots we currently have in the White House.

You currently have experienced, pragmatic adults in the White House. Nice change from the daycare centre that preceded it.

@NostraDumbass If Trump was still president we’d be buying Canadian oil instead of Russian oil. Seems doing that would be a lot more sensible adult like!

@Trajan61 And that would’ve prevented Putin attacking the Ukraine? Your “logic” escapes me.

@NostraDumbass right wing feel good brain chemicals drives this poster, not logic.

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First, Putin, Trump and many other republicans had a plot to take over America from within. Next, the old Soviet bloc countries by force. Putin's taking his revenge by doing the latter early, that's all. He flexing his muscles and overcompensating for whatever else.

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he just would not have waited.

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In another pole, 62% of Americans are fucking morons.

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And where were these polls conducted? The ''red'' states?

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That is a lotta dumbasses

Especially since Trump himself says differently!(duh)

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