Or an all seeing all powerful being, that allows so much evil and pain, to come to the innocent an defensless of all mankind

Beautifully written

What he really meant to tell you is he missed your money in the offering plate! Listen to a song by Johnnie Paycheck called, "The outlaws prayer", this was written about a true story of his adventures into the annals of church, in Fort Worth Texas, it pretty well says it all!

Totally and completely agree! Can't say anymore.

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I was raised in Puerto Rico. Because the public education sucks and it can be even dangerous, my parents put me on a private, American, Catholic school. The nuns were from an American order and I cannot remember the name. The priests came from Spain and there were also lay teachers that were not religious, meaning that they were not priests or nuns.

One time they took all the male students in my class to have weekly lectures about masturbation. Most of us were laughing at it. It took over two weeks and this priest could not really explain masturbation. Under pressure of the students, one of them gets up from his chair and asked directly to the priest if masturbation was bad or sinful. The poor priest did not know where to put his face, totally embarrased. He said masturbation was not really sinful and other stuff that I did not understand. This was a long time ago so my memories of this are fading away.

This was in a time where the priests were getting away with sexual molestation and no one would dare to point out that some students were getting molested. I still don't know what the purpose of these anti masturbation classes was. I am glad I got out of that school the moment I had a chance to get out.

Theres a lot of insight in your post.

Some people's "happiness in this life relies on hope of the next" and they fret about how awful this life is compared to their fantasized next. Therefore, their happiness is robbed.

May I suggest that you don’t even bother yourself making yourself upset. Simply get the switch in your brain and switch it off, for your sake and it’s only about you. God won’t mind, he’s not there anyway. James

Do you know he thinks that way? What denomination? The Bible does not teach such things.

I hatearguments that are totally emotional appeal.

God seems like a disturbed ex-girlfriend.

I hope you didn’t give him any money?

He is just sorry that you know more than he realizes. He will be out of support when the rest of his congregation wakes up to the fact. You should have told him to get a real job only to find out that he probably has no other skills other than his Sunday one. Never try and rationize or waste your efforts talking with these people.

A friend of mine while hauving a day out in Glasgow ways told by some soul beggers that the reason she was disabled was because she did not believe in gawd. Therevwas no discusion with my friend beforehand to establish her beliefs first.
Anyone else know of or had similar experiences.

I got kicked out of a youth group because I was gay and believed in a woman's right to choose. I was like 15 or 16 and the leader told the entire group I was a homosexual, that he didn't approve of me, and I shouldn't be there. I'm sorry for them because if they cannot accept who I am and love everybody, it is their own fault!

At that point I might ask, "It sounds to me like you haven't either. Love doesn't come with condescension, so I'm guessing you're still trying to earn daddy's love."

Don't waste your time getting advice from a pastor. They are not free thinking. Their religious education clouds all other types of answers that might work than just those that religion approves. I would suggest a good friend or a counsler before a minister. Just my thoughts.

Fuckk his beliefs

That's a pretty tough move there. I agree with your statements. I don't know if i would ever be in a position to make all those bold statements directly to a Rabie, priests, preachers. Good for you.

They keep on saying he is a caring god and gives you free will but if you do not do what the bible saids you will got to hell to me that is not a caring god and it means you do not have free will

for real!!

It's amazing that religious people think they have a monopoly on all things that are virtuous and no one else is capable. I've met some major assholes who are a big part of their churches, and I've met some amazingly kind and giving people that want nothing to do with religion. I judge people on how they treat others, animals, and themselves, and not what their religious beliefs are.

Great job buddy

I love this post...... I remember this one time this pastor try to convince me god was real by asking me what holds the earth moon and sun in its position in space I told him idk cause I don't have the time to explain general relativity to anybody so he did his god did it thing while I gave him a blank stare then I left thinking he is so lost but funny thing is he probably think the same shit about me lol

I am also a skeptic regarding God, how & why so many of my friends have faith & believe so hard.
My belief is I am a human, and God doesn't make my choices. I think that's the difference: humanity is self fulfilling, not forced or lead to make a decision.
I think the book called "bible", was written many centuries ago by a culture of men (dominant), and used it (still) to control societies. And the jesus thing is to add more control (man again).
Very conflicting. I go back.& forth about my thoughts & feelings. Perhaps I'll find out like everyone else- while dying & death.