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Should prostitution be illegal?

I feel that our society's disdain of prostitution is derived from irrational religious morality so I'm curious to learn what you heavens think about this topic.

Here's what I think-
The exchange of sexual services for money between consenting adults is not immoral and should not be illegal. Porn actors are paid to have sex and that is legal but if a sex worker is paid to have sex he/she has committed a crime. How does that make sense?

Legal prostitution is safer/healthier because it can be regulated and is not pushed into back alleys and seedy places. Currently, prostitutes work under the thumb of often brutal and manipulative pimps who take advantage of them. They can not go to the police for help so they must rely on a pimp for protection. If it were legal, they would work in regulated brothels and would be protected by the law rather than persecuted by it. They would also be tested regularly for std's which would help control the spread of disease.

Regardless of how you feel about prostitution personally, the freedom of others to make their own life decisions should not be infringed upon if those choices do not cause harm to others.

Prostitution is as old as civilization itself. People always have and always will exchange things for sexually services and attempting to end it is folly. The prohibition of it causes much more harm than prostitution itself.

Prostitution prohibition is a result of a paranoid society sexually repressed by irrational religious beliefs. I see no detriment to allowing prostitution to operate freely and in fact I think it can be beneficial for people to have the choice of gaining sexual release without a need for commitment to a relationship. There have been lots of societies throughout history that allowed and even encouraged it without issue.

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We recently had a post on this. I do believe in the legalization promoting safe sex and welfare
of the sex workers.It seems to work in Nevada except Clark County.

What's different in Clark county Compared to the rest of Nevada?

its not legal-Las Vegas is in Clark county.

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Legalize it, regulate it, and tax it. I do think you said it well.

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Completely agree.

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Some people argue that prostitution is different from other forms of work because it involves the exchange of money for access to the intimate self (or something like that). I disagree, as I think that's a decision each person can make for themselves; what's too intimate for one person is routine for another. Prostitution will always exist, but it's dangerous when it's illegal. When women feel trapped and cannot go to the police for protection, that's a recipe for real exploitation and abuse.

I started to read some articles because of this debate. on first scan legalization does not solve the problems people hope it would

@btroje I think you are right that legalization will not solve all the problems concerning this complex issue. But it will be a step in the right direction. We also need to further the cause of feminism and teach men to treat women with respect and dignity. These problems that you are concerned about will not end until chauvinism is dead.

the only difference is you get to sell your product, take it back and sell it again. footballers wives are just prostitutes pretending to be something else. I know at best im average looking in my younger years and for my age not bad. I like real people even if its a quick bit of lusty fucking once or the rest of my life. im realistically probably going to stay single really and im good with that.I want to fuck someone I fancy and make love to somebody I fancy and love their very life force, personality, their honesty, their mistakes and their faults. I want them to be the same. my biggest sex organ is either my skin or and my brain. in the meantime, I can watch Pornhub and imagine anything I want and be a bit lonely. I don't need women but I would just like one. if she's a lady treat her like a lady, if not fuck her. I know given the opportunity I would have been a right slag and potentially am. id be happier with someone I treat like a lady in public ish and like a complete passionate no holds bars erotic tart in our own time. it's the same both ways. I don't care what you used to be within reason ie kiddy fiddler or cruel fucker etc. I probably wouldn't care if you used to be a prostitute or porn star or even still are as long as your straight with me in the first place so i have the choice.

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It already is in most of Nevada though to be legal you have the usual legal loopholes (and some not so, of course!) as any business.

Those operating legally appear to be doing quite well, much more so than those who do so illegally here in "Sin City" itself!

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It falls under regulating & controlling a woman's body. It wasn't illegal until the advent of Christanity.

As long as men control it, there will be abuse.

@GoldenMean I agree. I was just scanning a wikipedia article about legalized prostitution in Europe looking for something else. Germany has had major liberalized laws for some time. THere has been increased human traffiking there since sex tourism has become such a big business.Legal or not I think of the effect on the individual exposed to abuse and trauma and the ripple effect through society in present time and through generations. The current situation is horrible along those lines and I think legalization would not necessarily adress those issues

"It wasn't illegal until the advent of Christanity."

I call bullshit on that. 😀

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Hi, as one who has a Doctorate in Theology ( also is a Life-Long Atheist btw) I can tell you that the Catholic Church, the root source of ALL modern Xtian Sects, did attempt to make Prostitution Illegal in the 8th and 9th Centuries C.E. however it was only done because the 'so-called' common Whores and Bordellos were operating in opposition to those Owned, Operated and frequented by the Church Hierarchy right up the line to including the Popes and were eroding the Profits the Catholic Church was gaining from its 'little' SLY Enterprises.
Even to this day there are still Bordellos Owned and operated by Catholic Cardinals, etc, and frequented by ALL members of the Catholic Hierarchy especially in Rome and Italy.
As a point of note here, The R.C.C. still holds to the ideology that NO Prostitute can receive Absolution, the Sacrament nor be buried in 'Holy' Ground even if she/he is employed in a Bordello/Brothel owned by the Church.
Another PRIME example of Religious Hypocrisy indeed.

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I would like to know how it would be determined that the prostitute really wanted to do this. Spend years talking to people that are victims of childhood sexual abuse or other forms of systemized violence and you will understand the question. If it is illegal the penalty should be on the person procuring sex, not the prostitute

I agree. In my indirect dealings with survivors of human sexual trafficking, I would say it’s a way of life with which they are familiar, and have not explored or aware of other vocational skills they possess. They only know they get paid, and it some indifferent detached way, they find comfort or nurturing in this profession.

It is true that many have been abused in the past and therefore technically it is not a free choice but the majority of free choice is based on past experiences and people react to those in different ways. Maybe the abuse has drawn then to that career but there are more people who are abused who don't take that path so I would argue there is still a choice and they shouldn't be criminalised

Well how do we ascertain whether or not someone wants to truly be a message therapist, or a teacher or solder or any profession for that matter? If prostitutes have the option to work in clean regulated brothels or I suppose some could be self employed, they will be free to choose if they want to get into it and free to choose if they would like to get out of it.

Legalization would fill the need for prostitutes with those who do freely chose to do it in safe clean environments and would put the illegitimate parts of the industry and human trafficking out of business. It's similar to how we very rarely come across illegal unregulated booze these days. During prohibition it was the only option but now it's simple enough to just go to a bar or liquor store. There aren't many unregulated breweries and distilleries operating outside of the rules established by government because it's simply makes more sense to operate within the limits of the law. The same will be true for prostitution. And drugs for that matter. Just look at countries that have legal options for prostitution and you will see that their prostitutes live safer better lives and are free and protected by law while ours find themselves in horrible conditions with little freedom to get out if they want to because the people they work for are operating outside the law and care little for the freedom and feelings of their sex workers.

legal or not I would say most prostitution is a perpetuation of sexual abuse. If it is not legal the punishment should go to the purchaser of the services.@robograham the careers you cited are not illegal.They do not involve the exploitation or abuse of power (thinking especially of teacher) that sexual involvement automatically opens one to.ANd to anyone that has had those conversations where they think the person is happy about doing it, there are other conversations from another point of view you may not have had.Alcohol is legal but you can not tell me that society does not suffer negative consequences of its use, legal or not

@Dave92 the puchaser should be criminalized

@SamMcGlone talk to them in 10 years. If what you are saying is that it is a great business opportunity then there should be no problem guiding your children or other loved ones to this choice

Let's determine why men crave sex. To get around monogamy?

@SamMcGlone I would rather have a clear opinion than be ignorant. Your experience in sales would not correlate to mine in psychiatry. and I stick with what I said

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It sure worked out great for Melania Trump. She bagged a rich guy, and now she is "First Lady" of the United States.. not bad for a "working girl"

I think she is actually quite unhappy. I'm guessing she got much more baggage than she anticipated. I feel sorry for her actually.

It worked for all of trump's wives.

@marmot84 I'm sorry but I have no sympathy for women of this 'type'. She could always leave. But the money makes the world of difference.

exfuckingsactly i have all the respect for actual prostitutes who sell sex directly for money but I just need them to actually fancy me sincerely. if you film prostitution its all fucking legal.

@SACatWalker Do you really think she likes him?

She also wasn't a prostitute....there's a difference between a nude model and someone who does penetration for money. As much as I hate Drumpf, I kind of feel sorry for Melania...you can sense she really hates even being around him.

@Clauddvon thank you for your comment.

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Personally I have yet to hear of a woman (I can't speak for men) who has "chosen" prostitution as a lifestyle option . Most have to resort to drug use to be able to "do" it with multiple men per day. I don't think "the freedom of others to make their own life decisions" comes into it for most prostitutes.

I think you have it backwards. The cases I've known were led to it to obtain money for their particular problem.

And, by the way, I do know people who have chosen it as a lifestyle and profession. I will admit that they are not street prostitutes, but on call for a select clientele. They make a great living and don't have sex with multiple people in a day.

Personally I have yet to hear of a person who has "chosen" ditch-digging as a lifestyle option . Most ditch-diggers have to resort to menial tasks to feed their families.
I don't think "the freedom of others to make their own life decisions" comes into it for most ditch-diggers.

People find ways to survive. Some sell the use of their back, others comodify other body parts. As long as there is a buyer there will be a seller.

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In countries where it is legal there are many women who choose it through free choice, at the same time there is still some trafficking but legalising it does seem to reduce the forceful element of it

if it was legal then women couldn’t be coerced into doing it. If they didn’t want to, then it would fail. Judicious monitoring by the state with serious legal ramifications for coercion should ensure a free selection.

I don't particularly enjoy my job. I go to work out of necessity. Yeah I'd say most of them don't choose to get into it as a lifestyle option but more out of a need to make a living. Perhaps if the industry was regulated and safer fewer who do get into it would have to resort to drugs to deal with it.

@Gatovicolo - Why would it change if it was legal? Pimps will still use vulnerable women/girls//boys to do the work. It's a dirty business, and legalising it won't make it any cleaner. I'd increase the penalties for using prostitutes, not being one.

I think there are some high end call girls and college women who do choose but choose carefully who they go with. But that is not the norm.

@GoldenDoll we are in agreement. Most of the people on this thread voice their opinion only.. I didnt have to dig too far into legitamate research to learn that legalization increases trafficking and increases crimeIn Amsterdam prostitutes were still harmed even with 3 panic buttons in the room..There has been more success reducing prostitution by punishing the johns..

It's not a lifestyle, it's a job. I've known both male and female sex workers who have enjoyed the job, and those who didn't. It's not easy work, but it works for some. It should be a legal job for those that opt for it.

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Outside of religious and some religion-related societal dictates, prostitution is just a service... If accompanied by simple protection, health screening of customers and agents... Less dangerous than driving on the roads. Plus: The "world's oldest profession" exists everywhere I've been where there are human populations of size.... Legitimize it, and the workers (women and men) and help to keep all disease and pregnancy free.

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Prostitution could be introduced legally as a form of therapy. Human beings need positive human contact.

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It's now legal in New Zealand - there is even a sex workers collective which attempts to protect sex workers' rights. I hear the people who say it often isn't a choice for some women who are thereby "coerced through circumstance" . No one should ever be "forced" into prostitution but if it is legalized, the stigma of being a sex worker is taken away and if the link between sex work and drug dependency taken away I see no harm in it.

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It's to be legal according to the age under control

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I really avoid posting curse words but here it is rather significant and appropriate. George Carlin once said " Sellings legal. Fuckings legal. Why is selling fucking illegal?"

Sex is at the least necessary for our species to survive. Prohibitions ( barring what actually hurts another person ) are completely arbitrary based on religious influence.
The reason for this is by suppressing and or controlling sex religion could control people. This was done to make people more dependent on religion. The hijacking of humanity and our natural instincts is what is immoral. Not two consenting adults having sex.

Very well said.

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It should be legal .If it is legal it can be taxed and generate money .It will also save on the waste of time and money it costs police departments and the judicial system .It will also be safer because prostitutes will have to under go periodical testing for sexually transmitted diseases

When I was in the military as a hospital corpsman we screened prostitutes for stds. Now at first it appeared to me that our government was supporting prostitution. It did not take me long to realize people were going to have sex no matter what. The military was simply doing their best to protect their marines and sailors. As a result it was also beneficial to the entire community.

Bear in mind, that throughout history, wherever there was an army or military base, there were brothels. In addition, a mobile army always had more than a few prostitutes in tow, to service the soldiers or sailors, whatever the case. Also, many of the women who went west to populate the country were prostitutes who in some cases rose to high society positions. In addition, in the middle ages, women had two choices, marry and become chattel or become a courtesan and wield power, gain riches, own real estate and influence politicians.

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If it's legal, then ideally it can be taxed, prostitutes will get health benefits, prostitute Unions could form, etcetera. Crime will be decreased as well, and police can focus on crimes that are truly important.

Enslaving children and adults for the worst arm of the industry is a part that needs to be made not necessary.

And with the legalization of prostitution, a different approach could be taken to limit such atrocities. If a woman wants to or needs to sell herself and she hasn't been coerced into doing so, there's no reason that she shouldn't be allowed to.

There will always be those who use the most vulnerable amongst us, namely children for their own purposes, whether that's child slave labor, sex trafficking or other things, it's always horrible to think that it happens. But I believe that if prostitution is legalized, it could be controlled better, since the government would then be allowed to take an official look at tax records, names, income, etcetera for prostitutes, pimps, etcetera.

Prostitution and slavery don't need to be one and the same. They happen to often be synonymous at the moment because prostitutes have no legal recourse if their pimp abuses them, takes all their money or whatnot because right now, what they're doing is illegal.

If it were legal, they would have a much stronger position against an abusive pimp.

So Prostitution is legal in New Zealand, and all prostitutes are considered as self employed , and therefore must pay tax. Alot do, as to keep themselves in the system, back it easier when they want to buy a house etc etc. Though of course there are many including the illegals from various countries who don't pay tax.

There are always going to be those who break the law and don't pay taxes or attempt, as in the case of the prostitutes you mentioned, try to escape notice. But that shouldn't mean that prostitution should be illegal on its face.

There are criminals in any profession in every country. To ban the profession because of the few who are criminals is ridiculous.

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As we all know, it's the oldest profession known to human kind. This is something that will never be controlled. Pompeii was known for it's brothels, along with the Greeks. It's part of life.. this was just another means to control the masses and religion was a huge part of why this is such a big issue with main stream society. There would be a lot less women out there getting beat up by pimps if it became legal. Its all about the money.

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In my country New Zealand prostitution has been legal since 2003, Here you get anything for your street workers to high paid women in great jobs doing it on the side. Alot of women do it and a lot of women also pay tax, so treat it as a normal job, This legal prostitution is called the New Zealand model, there is also the Nordic model, which is completely different.
Women can work on the street in some cities/towns, in brothels, for agencies, or privately in their own apartment. It is illegal to have unsafe sex, which i hope most people abide by.
Though as prostitution is legal here, it has attracted many women from China/HongKong and Brazil who choose to work here without the valid visa. (Although I have seen no complaints from men about that 😉 ) Also it must be why New Zealand is so peaceful... everyone is getting laid 😀 LOL

Sacha Level 7 Dec 30, 2017

COOL!

Hahahaha

Everyone who can afford it!

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If a tax can be generated from the pathetic men that utilize this type of meaningless and degrading sexual gratification I am all for it .The only type of prostitution I was always against is when a female is controlled against her will by a pimp etc . Hopefully this practice will be eliminated

Wow! Pathetic men sounds way too harsh but if that's your opinion, so be it.

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I beleive prostitution should be legalized, regulated and taxed. The reason why is important - legalizing removes the eleiment of crime. DON"T laugh a seemly simple statement. The perfect example is Prohibition, it did not stop people from drinking and actually gave the United States organized crime. The skin trade will continue whether it is legal or not, but under a legitamate business model the workers have legal protection and there will be less abuse. The down side of prostitution can never be made completely safe for the workers but there will be a higher level of protection than when it is illegal. Just my opinion.

Very well spoken.

In Germany and other European countries (Holland) is is legal and the workers work for the state and get benefits including health and retirement.

@JackPedigo Just like every other worker. Here in American, we don't even have that.

@Spinliesel I know, those damned socialized countries?! Funny first it was communism and now it's socialism. We are our own worst enemies.

@Spinliesel Yeah for one of the richest countries in the world it sure seems to lack in areas that matter most. Sad state of affairs. Some countries plainly take care of their people better.

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Many problems alleviated or avoided by legalising prostitution than by criminalising it..

Marriage has sometimes been described as legalised prostitution.

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The reason I voted "Other" is I don't want the state involved in it at all. I would like to see it DECRIMINALIZED for the same reasons I wish the same for drugs and all other victimless crimes.
Besides, the government has already shown that they have no clue how to run a brothel. Look what happened when they took over one of the brothels just outside Las Vegas for failure to pay taxes.
By law they were supposed to keep it running until it was auctioned off. All they had to do was keep the booze flowing and the clientele otherwise happy. They ran it into the ground!

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totally as all drugs should be as it protects people far more ad it's going to be done anyway.

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I don't use it... I don't understand what pleasure can be obtain of that. There is no Romance in Money Exchanging hands... I am a Romantic... plus I am a Hunter... If I can not Hunt the Tail I get... I should Not get Any. Like in "Carlitos Way" ..."if you don't get in... you don't get any". With all due respect to those who find value in the oldest profession, more power to you and do whatever right and good is necessary.

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It's legal in Nevada.

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