Im atheist . And I get asked this often . Was curious to know other non believers answer to this . Without getting into to much detail my answer is simple. If I am wrong and im hell doomed for not believing then thats fine with me . Maybe hell is where I belong . Because there is just to many things in the bible itself I can't justify . Too many evilness . God murdered o don't know how many people including kids . He tortures gay people . Ect. I will not bow down before such an evil being . I also have questions for him as well. One being why has remain hidden ? Why did he leave behind no evidance of his existance? And even more confusing leave more evidence of him NOT existing and then throw us in flames for eternal torment for not believeing him ? If he does exist we have a mad man on charge and we should all be fearful of this lunitic . So send me to hell god because I would never follow you anyways
I look at it the other way. If there is a cosmic justice, then faith on bad evidence is not the greatest justice. So I donβt live my life worried about Bronze Age myths.
I have to say that most christians idea of heaven is a place I wouldn't want to spend five minutes, let alone eternity.
So of there is a god, they can send me to hell. The climate may be a little warm, but as Jim Gaffigen said, at least that's where all the hookers and blow will be.
Amen brother, lol
I donβt understand these types of discussins tbh.
I donβt think of it as a choice or decision I have made.
Itβa more like a conclusion. Like you think 1+1 =a based on the input and I think 1+1=2 . Good luck convincing me 1+1 is not 2 but more power to you.
My point is I donβt think I have a choice in what I know. I can research more and maybe I find different facts but as of now I know what know or know that I am missing facts and refuse to guess based on unknowns (that part is a decision, yes)
I would second a comment below and part of your comment. I have posted this before, if I could be convinced by evidence that there is a personal god that enters into the live's of humans, I would consider such a being responsible for the way things are and have been throughout history to be a crazed criminal lunatic or monster who would only deserve to be loathed.
If it turned out that I was shown the proof that there actually is a decision-making being responsible for all that happens, I would be no closer to worshiping it than I am now, as a non-believer. I would consider it a monster.
I would want proof of what decisions it was actually making. Instead, all you get today are words designed to keep you away from this mythical being that is using such divine wisdom.
If there is, then he must be a complete sadist!
Your answer should be "so what?" My life wouldn't change any, I would still do exactly the same thing I do everyday. And if you ask them "what if you're wrong how would your life change," what would they say? God has no control. One team still wins and the other loses and your life won't change if there is a God and their life won't change if there isn't a god. They will fall back on everything is Man's Free Will. It's that simple. Nothing changes. Where you come up with there must be a hell if there is a God I'm not sure but you can come up with all kinds of myths that go with it but it doesn't change your life one bit if you're wrong. You're not relying on any nonexistent power to control your life so there's no disappointment. If they're wrong they are disappointed because their whole thought process is based on something controlling their life and it's not true.
Two biggest problems with that argument, called Pascalβs wager:
itβs not an either/or situation. Once you decide to bet on a god you still must decide which one... based on what? Your location? Ok good luck with that.
even if it were just a yes or no proposition regarding the abrahamic god for example, he would know that the only reason you believe is to hedge your bets, and thatβs not true faith. So youβre going to hell anyways if you try to believe out of self preservation. Itβs like trying to surrender to a merciless enemy. Youβll die anyways, except now youβre dying a cowards death.
I just ask "What if you're wrong and the real God is Zeus? ready for the thunderbolt up the bum hole are we?"
Pascal's wager aside. I would not worship the god of Abraham, if I knew for a fact that he is real. The god of the bible is a hateful, vindictive, narcissistic monster.
My question is why would you want to spend eternity praising a creature who is so egotistical he would just as soon torture you for eternity if you didn't.
In the UK a lot of the christian sects no longer believe in hell. They can't reconcile the idea with the loving god they want to worship. They tend to prefer something very vague like 'Those who believe and love god will, in some way, be united with him and their loved ones after death. Those who don't believe won't achieve this'.
I don't believe in a heaven OR a hell. (Coincidentally while I was a Christian attending a number of different denomination's churches many of them insisted there was a heaven but no hell.) I also don't believe in an anthropomorphic deity. However, IF there was, I would not believe in a petty, tyrranical, punitive god. If god is supposed to be a model for morality then, as far as I'm concerned, there can't be a hell. As a seriously flawed human being I could not send people to the kind of hell describe in th bible or by Dante. If I can't, then a 'good' god should be utterly incapable of doing so. And to go one further, I see no reason why an anthropomorphic deity should represent the male rather than the female (as it was in the earliest religions).
In 'proper' Christianity hell doesn't exist. It is a construction of the Middle Ages. Dante's Divine Comedy is basically a commentary on characters and people from history and, according to their deeds, placing them in in the different levels of Hell, Purgatory and Heaven, framed by the then current (early C14th) medieval world view as expressed by the Catholic Church. For the first real expression of a geographical 'Hell' see The Myth of Er in Plato's Republic
If I'm wrong, then I have some serious questions about God's role as a leader!
I been Wrong before.
So have I. I think it was on a Thursday... (I could be mistaken about that).