In the Bible Abraham and Moses both successfully argued with God. If there is a God....which I seriously doubt....I hope I can be as successful as Abraham and Moses in presenting my case.

What if they are wrong and realize they lived their lives in a closet to sacrifice their fun,
But then again, I know they are wrong and the what if is just wtf

See my previous reply as to why I think Pascal's Wager is the most misunderstood wager in the history of gambling, but here I will discuss its absurdity if taken seriously:

1. Even if there is a God, what makes you think God would condemn you to eternal torment simply because you can not force yourself to believe in a particular version of Him/Her/Them/It? Who told you that, and why did you believe it? Not only is it absurd, but it's not actually in the Bible, you know. Even if there is a God, don't you really think, yea verily, don't you deep down feel, that this must be a false god?

2. This is MOST important. One cannot force oneself to believe in God, or a god, if one truly does not believe. It simply can not be done. Try it. Let's start with a deity-like figure called Santa Claus. (He knows when you are sleeping. He knows when you're awake. He knows when you've been bad or good, so be good for goodness sake!) Can't do it, can you? Can't do it with The Great Pumpkin either, right? OK, now try it with Baal, Zeus, Thor, Osiris, or any of a thousand other mythical gods. No luck there either, right? Just can't force yourself to do it. You can fake it, pretend to believe, lie to yourself and others, live a life of blatant hypocrisy, but you cannot really believe no matter how many times you hit your head against the wall. Not only your brain, but your heart won't let you do it.

Now suppose I am a true believer in Woden/Odin and tell you that, just to be on the safe side, you better offer up an altar sacrifice to Woden/Odin least He condemn you to freeze forever in a Scandinavian hell. Would you go out and offer a blood sacrifice to Woden/Odin, just in case? No, of course, you wouldn't. The whole idea is just so absurd as not to be contemplated. So, why are you even considering something similar for the ancient tribal volcanic Hebrew god Jehovah/Yahweh, god of fire and brimstone, burning bushes, and a volcano-like hell buried in the bowels of the earth? Only one reason, right? Because you were raised to believe in such a god. There is no other reason.

OK, Pascal's Wager, if taken seriously, is so absurd on face value that one could simply stop there. But frankly, this is too much fun to stop short, and this brings us to the important concepts of Salvation/Justification.

4. SALVATION BY HYPROCISY If there is a God, do you truly believe that God would reward you with heaven for living a life that is a total lie? Really?

5. SALVATION BY WAGER OR BETTING. Do you really think you can hedge a bet with an omniscient, all-powerful deity and win the bet? Really? Do you think you can fool God that you really believe in Him if you don't? If God can be fooled, then He is not God. Even Santa Claus would not fall for this.

6. SALVATION BY FEAR. The real reason you are contemplating pretending to believe in such a God is fear of hell, right? So, God will reward all those who live a life of fear and trembling with heaven, and the rest of us who are not so traumatized are punished with hell. Really?

7. JUSTIFICATION BY HATRED. Such a god, who would condemn his own creation, or "children", to eternal torment for simply being the way he created them, (remember you cannot force yourself to believe in such a God, you can only fake it) is truly a god of hatred. And you want to worship and be justified by such a god. Really? Sounds like a false god to me. And that would make you an idolator, and idolators go to hell.

Also, these concepts are not even biblical. (1 John 4:8) Funny how many "Christians" who swear the bible is the word of God, don't think it is important enough to read.

8. While we are being biblical, this concept of hell is not found anywhere in the Old Testament. There are references to Sheol, the Realm of the Dead, which is similar to Hades, the Underworld, of the Ancient Greeks. Some even suspect the Hebrews took this idea from the Ancient Greeks. Christians later superimposed their concept of hell upon Sheol. But where did this truly torturous modern concept of hell in all its agonizing glory really come from? It came from Dante's Inferno. Where did Dante get it from? He got it from Persian Zoroastrian mythology. So, maybe the "Christians" who are preaching this to you are going to burn in hell for preaching Zoroastrianism in the name of Christianity? (Just saying)

9. SALVATION BY POLYTHEISM. Which god should we then worship? It is said that the believer does not believe in 10,000 gods, while the atheist does not believe in 10,001 gods. To take Pascal's Wager seriously you would have to become a polytheist and worship all gods. And while you are at it, how about making an idol to Agnostos Theos, the Unknown God. (Acts 17:23) BTW, polytheists, per Christianity, go to hell, too.

10. I love this one. Note that Pascal's Wager asks what you have got to lose if you fake it for fear's sake? I'll tell you what you have to lose:

A life of honesty, a life of sincerity, a life of authenticity, a life of happiness, and a life that is worth living. If you fake it you will live a life of fear, repression, dishonesty, hypocrisy, and regret, or in other words:

        You will live a life in your own personal hell.

Note: I have no idea why the number eights above get transposed into a smiley face with glasses...but somehow it seems like poetic justice.

What if there is a god and she only cares that we treat each other (including animals and environment) with dignity, respect, equality, and a gracious heart? Then all the religious right would be so fucked and all the agnostics and atheists would be all right.

If there was a God I can't believe he, she, it would be the DICK described in the Bible. If so he, she, it could use some anger management therapy.

I will be very surprised.

Then I guess I'm shit outa luck. By the way, there is no proof of his non existence. Unless you're talking about a jar of peanut butter, you can not prove the non existence of something. This goes for God, bigfoot, aliens, fairies, dwarves, and the loch ness monster, all of which some people believe in and others do not. I'm more inclined to believe in bigfoot, (due to the gigantopithecus fossils and footprints), Aliens, (due to the bad photographs and the governments reaction to the subject) fairies and dwarves, (probably just people ignorant of the causes of birth defects) and the loch ness monster (due to fossils of plesiosaurs) than any god. (no evidence whatsoever) This does not disprove god. It's merely a lack of evidence for Him, Her, It, Them.

Firstly I'll be very surprised then I'll ask the almighty what in God's name (appropriate here) have you been playing at, it's a f***ing meat grinder down there and you just watched?

If there is a god, or many, they will understand my doubts.

I figure that if there IS a God or gods, they have a sense of humor and will appreciate my whimsical and positive approach to life and people, along with my humorous irreverence for them, and it will be all good in the afterlife for me.

I say to him/her/it: "what the hell where you thinking when you gave children bone cancer, you wicked old being.
Then I'll shake my head and hurry home before the LSD wears off.

Ignorant evil believers are so twisted in their minds ANY THREAT OR BRIBE is OK with their genocidal incestuous alleged deity Jehovah with a magic penis raping a married little virgin to give birth to himself so he can survive a crucifixion 33 years later. ....who also orders violent unsafe abortions in 4 separate infallible words of his Amos 1:11 Second Kings 8:12 Hosea 13:16 and 2 Kings 15:16 " rip open the bellies of pregnant women"

Then we would already be slaves to a single minded god desiring worship all the time. If that were the case he sure is nice with hands off.... But there is no heaven or hell and rule number 1 here is 0 intervention from above. All you will ever experience in this Universe is everyones momentum bouncing off each other. I call it freewill pinball. This includes what seems to be an equal importance for the life of plants, virus's, bacteria, humans or even rocks in space, the life cycle of suns. etc, etc. No amount of prayer to any god will stop a cancer from killing you or getting hit by a car. Always keep your eyes open, this life is more about whats happening in front of your face. Plenty is understood that we would have little control over some things as the momentum grows & flows.

The entire concept of Christianity sets you up for failure to start with. It's a guide to obedience. You might call the bible The Goat and Sheep Herders Guide to the Universe.

If there is a God, particularly the omnipotent and omnipresent kind, and I meet him when I die, I intend to have some very strong words with his or her management style. I think Stephen Fry said it best when asked what the first thing he would say to God was: "Bone cancer in kids, what's up with that?"

The UU answer to Pascal’s Wager (paraphrased by me):

If there is a God either he is a compassionate loving god who will forgive us or he is a giant dick.

Even if god exists, religion is still a bunch of phony, baloney nonsense made up to control the disadvantaged.

If there is a god, she will have a lot of explaining to do.

He/she would forgive us for not believing, because he/she blessed us with logical minds. It would be god's fault that we don't believe.

Before you can say if you believe in God or not - you must be very clear on the definition of God.

I guess that I would fall into your catagory! If there is a God and 'it' has allowed all your aboved mentioned things to take place or perpetuated them 'it's self...how much worse could it be? So easy to control humans, if you threaten them with, unimaginable suffering!! Wonder when that started? I don't believe that is in my DNA!

I guess that I would fall into your catagory! If there is a God and 'it' has allowed all your aboved mentioned things to take place or perpetuated them 'it's self...how much worse could it be? So easy to control humans, if you threaten them with, unimaginable suffering!! Wonder when that started? I don't believe that is in my DNA!

This is the ultimate oxymoron. ...what if non-existence existed? What if gibberish were real words ? What if an alleged vaginal virgin gave birth to an alleged baby god in a dirty donkey stable midnight Dec 25 year ONE on the fake calendar back dated wrong 800 years later

According to the church rules, I grew up with it wouldn't matter. I was baptized, so I'm getting in. If they're wrong, I'm going to hell. I can live with that.

Well said I agree