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Should public nudity be legal?

The AANR (American Association for Nude Recreation) has the view that public nudity should be legal as long as the person is not doing anything with the intent of sexually arousing either themselves or anyone else.

The most stated reason by members is to get over "body shame", because doing so helps boost self esteem and confidence. There have been studies showing that children raised in nudist family have higher self esteem and confidence and are just generally more comfortable with who they are as a person.

On the other side there are those persons who seek out nude beaches and nudist events who have seual agendas. AANR nudist clubs don't tolerate such persons, and forcibly remove them shoudl they show up. I refer to such persons as "swingers" because they seem to fit the swinger lifestyle more than they do the nudist lifestyule

However, as a point of freedom. A freedom of expression, which does tno do harm to anyone, shoudl public nudity be legal? As atheists are nto burdened with religious mores , I was just wondering what the people here think?

I am a natuirst (nudist) and I have ridden the Portland (OR) World Naked Bike Ride, which has over 10,000 participants each year, and I have gone on nude hikes, visited clothing optional beaches

So, what are your thoughts?

snytiger6 9 Oct 18
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As long as there are no health & safety issues, e.g. machinery that might catch on dangly bits.

I think people whould wear clothing for warmth and protection when necessary. I just also think that if it isnt' necessary, then they shoudl have the option of whether or nto to wear clothes.

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Yes, It is at my house.

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I'd rather it wasn't legal everywhere, but happy to have areas where it is legal, pools and beaches.

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Nudity really isn't appropriate for city life - too many complications . But if you live in the country or want to go nude on your holidays at the seaside, why not. It might help people be more relaxed about different body shapes.

Did you know it's legal to be without a top (women) in NY City?

@cyndiann Does that apply to men, too? Seems to me that men go around bare-chested quite a lot in hot weather. No reason why women shouldn't as well, if they want to.

@CeliaVL well yeah and that's the point. Women should be treated the same as men under the law, including being topfree.

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Well half of the people will always think nudity and sex is inseparable and always go hand in hand. Those same people might also think sex is an animalistic part of being a human that takes over in the presence of nudity. But if you look at the animal kingdom you will see that they are not having sex without purpose or without an invitation from the female. Animals are actually much better at controlling their sexual desires than humans. Male animals aren’t going around having sex with any female they want. The female has to invite / entice the males with a sound or visual display or by putting off a scent or by posturing. If a male animal gets his signals wrong and tries to mount a female that didn’t invite him then the female runs off or sits down and finds ways to makes it impossible to be mated.
Sex is not an uncontrollable animalistic part of humanity that is triggered by nudity. There are tons of people that have sex with no nudity and their clothes still on. So when it comes to sex, clothes being on or off doesn’t seem to matter much at all. And nudity is not a call to sex even in our animal kingdom because animals are naked all of the time but only have sex for a fraction of their time in existence with permission granted from the female. I can also say that I have seen women with certain clothes on that looked way more provocative and sexually appealing than they would if they were simply nude. Being nude is to be in a natural state. But the clothing industry along with religion has made nudity into something unnatural that shows weakness of character, of being poor and ignorant and something only a low brow person with no statues could endure.

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As someone who is very interested in looking at naked ladies I find myself conflicted. On one hand you want to show, but on the other you don’t want me looking. Should it be legal, sure. Anytime, anywhere? Not sure that is not asking for trouble.

At one time women kept ankles hidden, said it was too sexy. You adjust and get used to it. Nobody hides ankles anymore, next is breasts.It's that simple.

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Can't say I'd be for public nudity. It has nothing to do with religion and body shaming etc, but it's rather about what's best for civilized society. Besides, there are already enough nudist colonies throughout the country, why should a certain segment of society be able to push their beliefs (nudism in this case) on others. Perhaps I feel that way because I'm an introvert and also not an exhibitionist, and when I go to a public beach etc I don't feel like being in the company of those who "let themselves out" so to speak. The current laws in regards to that are better off left as they are.

@NotConvinced Well said.

@NotConvinced The door could swing both ways on that one, and such a scenario can get tricky. At first it would seem that those who require clothing to be worn are the ones pushing their beliefs, but if you know someone could be uncomfortable with you being naked, wouldn't you think it's a bit childish to continue making them uncomfortable when it certainly would not be necessary to continue doing so? I see this as a situation where both sides could play the I'm offended card, so finding middle ground on that can get tricky. If you read all the comments, you would see one other guy said similar to what I just mentioned in regards to being childish and inconsiderate (I think those were the exact words he used). I'm going to message you later and explain another reason why I commented as I did

@snytiger6 I forgot to mention that I would be against throwing anyone in jail due to public nudity, it's absurd to punish like that over a victimless crime.

@NotConvinced we aren't there to be seen! It's not about that.

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Just keep in mind some things cannot be unseen

Right you are on that.

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My first boyfriend and I used to hang out with friends, commune like, on the beaches of Lake Michigan, outside his cottage, on the dunes. It was the nicest thing ever to lay naked against the sand under the midday sun with the waves lapping the beach. Total bliss. So I get it.

Sounds like some fond memories there.

One of my best vacations was at a nudist retreat where I never had to bother getting dressed for nine days and nights.

@SpikeTalon 😉

@snytiger6 in the US?

@crazycurlz Yes, a nudist group rented a campground from a Jewish organization for a kidn of retreat in the Malibu (CA) hills.

@snytiger6 I honestly don't know whether you'd find me out there this days. My life took unexpected turns after those days on the dunes. If there a certain type of person, (demographic) that does nudist groups in the US? white, educated? just suggestions...I have no idea...

@crazycurlz I remember visiting Squaw Mountain Ranch, which is the oldest nudist club West of the Mississippi,. Anyway, I found it interesting that many members there were nudists when young, then they got married, moved to middle class neighborhoods and raised kids and after the kids were grown and moved out they went back to beign nudists again.

My impulse was to feel sorry for the kids who weren't raised as nudists. However, the areas where they lived and worked while raising their kids may nto have been the best circumstances to be nudists.

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Yes, I think people should have the right to chose as long as they are not violating other people's rights or harrasing them.

Yes, the key here is in the freedom to choose.

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I don’t have an opinion about nudity being legal, but it should not be illegal, if that makes sense.

I think I get your point there.

As another respondent pointed out, each person should be free to choose. Laws agains tnudity are mor eaobut controlling people than they are abbout providing any actual benefit to society.

One of my favorite T-Shirts reads "If we were meant to be naked, we'd have been born that way."

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It is in San Francisco, you just need your Id and a towel to sit on.

And the desire to do so . . .

They changed the laws in San Francisco a few years ago. Except for special events nudity is now illegal in most parts of San Francisco. Still legal at the nude beaches though.

I can understand why they changed the laws. A few guys were walking around with genital piercings and/or cock rings, which kind of draws attention to the genitals, and in my view, that crossed the line where instead of just the freedom to be nude, and moved towards serializing their nudity by specifically drawing attention to the genitalia.

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Yeah, I don't need to announce to people in the checkout line that I think the cashier is hot with a raging, out in the open boner.

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No harm really - could be interesting. Not for me though!

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Why not?

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I think public nudity should be allowed at designated areas.

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Sure. Who cares.

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Sure don't see why not, what ever floats your boat.

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I would actually like to try a nudist event at one point in my life.

Do a Google search for World Naked Bike Ride and your nearest major city and chances are you will find one. In Portland Oregon, they have over 10,000 participants each year, but I am told that Portland has one of the worlds largest. London's first ride had between two and three hundred.

Anyway, The World Naked Bike Rides are protests about the continuing dependence on fossil fuels. That message usually gets lost in the news coverage though, but that is the original purpose of the rides.

In the U.S. the largest nudist organization is AANR (American Association for Nude Recreation). However, there should be similar national organization in Canada, the UK, Australia, etc... tht organize and promote platonic nude recreational activities.

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Do you know why many men reject Nudism?

I think the reasons probably vary greatly, but the majority have probably been taught to be ashamed of their own bodies, and also taught to shame other people's bodies as well, as a way of trying to make themselves feel superior.

@snytiger6 No. LOL

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When it comes to admiring a woman's breasts, most men are suckers!!! Lol. 🙂

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Nothing wrong with making upper body nudity - in certain public areas - legal, but full body nudity does unfortunately run the risk of causing sexual harassment and possible violence. Therefore, regrettable as it may be, full body public nudity, of necessity, has to be illegal. Here in Spain there are many public beaches where full nudity is allowed, but there have to be signs warning the general public that they are entering a nudity permitted beach. Spain does however have a reasonably lax attitude to being topless on a beach.

Nudity is legal in USA....full nudity.

@DUCHESSA Anywhere, any time? Strewth!

@Petter There are hundred of Nudist resorts and beaches allover USA...I have been to several of them.

@DUCHESSA I don't mean in resorts - I mean in areas completely open (unrestricted access) to the general public, such as beaches, sports grounds, streets, etc. Here in Spain nudist beaches have unrestricted access, but must have signs to inform those who do not wish to see others naked about it. Most nudist beaches in Spain have a mix of clothed and unclothed (textile and non-textile) users.

@Petter Until Katrina did away with the dunes....you had Gunnisson Beach (Long Island), field # 5 as a "Clothes optional beach". In New Jersey you have Sandy Hook....and I don't remember the names of other beaches in the country that are, also, nudists.

The signs are to inform the people just in case they don't want to be in a nude area. I was in Costa Natura.

@DUCHESSA Much like Spain, then. Did you know that the beach, and the area immediately inland from it, are state property, and cannot be fenced off, except for reasons of national importance? I love that law!
I've just seen from your profile that you came from Argentina. That's a country my wife and I have often said we would love to visit, as it appears to have areas similar to Kenya. (We're both Kenya bred.) ...and nowadays we could even communicate easily!

@Petter Well, are you talking about the jungle in the north of the country? The south of Argentina is cold, with mountain lakes, glaciers and a chain of mountains that runs north-south and is eternally snowed. Later I tell you about "la Pampa".

@DUCHESSA Kenya has a small amount of Jungle, but most of it is pretty arid and ideal ranching country. My grandmother owned a cattle ranch that had 1.2 miles of river running through the bottom, right hand corner of it,

@Petter Argentina is not arid at all...See "the Pampa"

@DUCHESSA I shall.

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Nudity should be a personal choice at appropriate locations, and we could go on all day about what's appropriate. Nudity, even on city streets, in some European countries is either legal or a minor offense. I didn't believe it until I saw it in Budapest.

And, yes, I have seen it in Portland "keep it weird" Oregon.

We used to drive into the Gifford Pinchot National Forest and have nude picnics, but that probably violated some Federal Law.

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To tell the truth I spent some of the happiest days of my life in Paradise Lakes Resort and the Caliente Resort north of Tampa. After a short while nobody even notices you have no clothes on. There's a wonderful feeling of liberation throwing off your clothes. One feels like a kid again.

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It's a shame what religious leaders have done to people over the course of history. Telling people they were born in sin and should be ashamed of their bodies is unnatural and perverse. Nuns in the Middle Ages were ordered to shower with their habits on so as not to offend God. The purpose is to reject our animal nature, but that's precisely what we are.

I look at it as religion attempts to control us by instilling feelings of fear, guilt and shame, as a way of manipulating us. Cults do the same thing, only to a much greater extent.

Naturism/Nudism helps people get over feeling shame about their bodies and their appearance. Children raised i Naturist/Nudist homes have a great deal more self confidence and self esteem, because they were nto taught to be ashamed of their bodies and who they are.

The rest of us have to "recover" from a body shaming cultural poractice3 rooted in religion. Even many here, on this site, who have given up religious beliefs still unknowingly have kept a lot of dogma rooted in religion, such as the fear, guilt and shame regarding nudity.

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