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Should public nudity be legal?

The AANR (American Association for Nude Recreation) has the view that public nudity should be legal as long as the person is not doing anything with the intent of sexually arousing either themselves or anyone else.

The most stated reason by members is to get over "body shame", because doing so helps boost self esteem and confidence. There have been studies showing that children raised in nudist family have higher self esteem and confidence and are just generally more comfortable with who they are as a person.

On the other side there are those persons who seek out nude beaches and nudist events who have seual agendas. AANR nudist clubs don't tolerate such persons, and forcibly remove them shoudl they show up. I refer to such persons as "swingers" because they seem to fit the swinger lifestyle more than they do the nudist lifestyule

However, as a point of freedom. A freedom of expression, which does tno do harm to anyone, shoudl public nudity be legal? As atheists are nto burdened with religious mores , I was just wondering what the people here think?

I am a natuirst (nudist) and I have ridden the Portland (OR) World Naked Bike Ride, which has over 10,000 participants each year, and I have gone on nude hikes, visited clothing optional beaches

So, what are your thoughts?

snytiger6 9 Oct 18
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I think it can be distracting, possibly could cause traffic accidents. I think it should be allowed in designated areas like parks and bars and gyms.

If nudity were a common place thing it would nto be so distracting,..

In Oregon the Oregon supreme court ruled tha tnudity is a right, but the language of the ruling is only clear when a person is protesing, but uses rather grey language for other circumstances. Anyway, one thign the ruling did was make it legal to be nude on state and federal lands, but nudists are generally respectful can considerate. The unspoken rule is that you dont' go nude within site of a parkign area or paved road. This istt' law but just local custom/culture.

Nude bars--oh my...

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It depends where you live. If you are in Equatorial anywhere or between the tropics sounds like a good idea. Scotland, Siberia, New York. Nah!

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My schlong isn’t long

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Public nudity...really, no. most nudists are saggy baggy old folk and i do not want to see turtle heads or goffers.

Not sure if I really want to know what a goffer is....

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We certainly should allow women to go topless everywhere that men can go topless, but there's other issues that would come up - like how would restaurants deal with the change in rules? Would you really want to sit on chairs that had been exposed to hundreds of other people's unclothed posteriors?

People bring up the "not everyone looks like what you're hoping to see with nudity", without digesting the part where you talked about "no sexual agendas". While I think that for the most part, people would be a lot more modest in a clothing-optional society than the "everybody's naked" model, the existence of the web site peopleofwalmart.com suggests it would be more uncomfortable for everyone than our current set of circumstances is. That, and we already have problems with people who feel that seeing women in jeans or a revealing skirt is all the permission they need to catcall or grope them - of course those sorts will equate exposure with permission.

It is true that people will be rude whether or mot other pe9o0le are clothed or not.

Persons who are older and/or over weight will be denigrated whether or not they are wearign any clothes. Those who have bodies which their culture thinks is beatiful will get unwanted attention and ti will brign out the immaturatity of others.

Culturally, at least in the U.lS., we have a long way to go in terms of equality and personal freedoms. I think that the freedom of choice of whether or not to wear clothing falls under freedom of expression or freedom of speech under the U.S. constitution an dlaws that prohibit nudity are unconstitutional, in part also because they are based on religious beliefs, and also infringe on freedom of religion.

Women are still getting harassed for discretely breastfeeding their kids in public so your idea is very appealing. Breasts really are there mainly to feed babies after all.. In some cultures they are, or were, not seen as sexual, making National Geographic magazines popular reading material for American boys back when I was young.

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Last time I was on a nudist beach there were some who should never be naked in public. Seriously though personally it doesn't bother me but its a bit cool for it to be an all year round activity.

I find that usually those persons who people don't wan tot see naked, also prefer not to see those sam,e person wearing clothes either. It is a learned cultural bias. Once Irealized that, I became a lot less judgemental myself.

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Public nudity should be acceptable so long as it doesn't violate public health or safety standards.

I can totally agree with that!

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My question really is where in public? Buildings? Parks? Streets? It would be insanely to allow public nudity in the streets. Parks maybe a better place, but not in the same area as people with families. You might feel free, but everyone in public has to take everyone else into consideration, before pulling the act. Buildings, like malls, movie theaters, grocery stores, etc., etc.. What about those people with un-pure thoughts when they see a naked person, and take it too far?

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I'm not personally offended by nudity. Providing it's not offending large numbers of people, as it shouldn't, civic places would be okay, but I think designated areas are more sensible until general society lightens up.

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Sure you should have right to be nude if you want. however I don't think it's right to subject that too everybody and anybody, Nude zones?

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God!! NO can you imagine some of the sites you would see out there, and having had a meal I do like to keep it down!

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For me it's all about hygiene. I have no idea how clean people are and how well groomed.

There have been a lot of repliesw were people share your concerns.

I do know that at nudist clubs, or businesses that are clothing optional (like spas) it is good etiquette to carry a towel with you to sit on.

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Nope. Current American culture (one of the most prudish in the world) would not adapt to it. Way to disruptive.

I think it depends on wht part of the country you are in. My experience in the Pacific Northwest (Oregon and Washington) is that nudity isn't really a big deal. Although legally Oregon is much more nude friendly than Washington. I have been told hat Vermont as pretty nude friendly laws too

@snytiger6
I believe you're correct in your observations. I was thinking about the context (is that the right word?) of being nude. I cannot imagine any organization I've worked for allowing nudity in the workplace. What about visiting an art museum? Or say, attending the Opera? A courtroom? Would you wear a great coat in the winter traveling to a restaurant and then remove it to be seated? I don't see this happening here in southern Ohio.

@bigpawbullets I actually went to a slothing optional day at the Portland (Oregon) Art Museum. It was right before the World Naked Bike ride.. (Th =e Portland WNBR attracts more than 10,000 riders each year).

As for workplaces and businesses, they can have dress codes, and most do.

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Here in Canada, women have the right to be publically topless if they wish. It means that we have to deal with people who are offended because of their own concepts of morality. There are a lot of puritans out there who need to smoke a little weed and relax

Yes. Those darn puritans... If we were meant to be naked we'd have been born that way.

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(I just had an image of the treasonous GROPER naked. THAT should be illegal!)

I don't want to see Trump naked either. However, even with him the above stated rules that a person can't be anything with the intent of sexually arousign either themselves or anyone else would still apply. If public nudity were legal, I can't see him participating as he is all about image and in his mind "clothes make the man". I can't see him voluntarily putting himself in a position where nobody would be cued in to his status via the clothes he wasn't wearing and people saw him as just "equal".

On the other hand, seeing Trump naked would help people trying to lose weight as one look and they would lose their appetites.

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I argued with my law professor once that women should be allowed to take their shirts off outdoors, because men are allowed to. He argued fiercely that women not being allowed to take their shirts off outside was protecting us from people who would sexualize us.

My argument was that people who would sexualize us should be taught that they are wrong, or just shunned.

I think everyone should have the right to nudity if they are not doing it for sexualizing anyone. I read somewhere that the countries that allow public nudity have dramatically reduced rape statistics.

Your profesor's arguement really breaks down when you realize all the tribal cultures cultures around the world where females go bare breasted and it is not serialized at all (by other tribal members anyway).

Although National Geographic never did a photo spread, as even they reach a point of prudishness, there are tribal cultures where nudity was always the norm. Body shame is nto a universal cultural value.

I like your way of thinking!

Women in Canada have the right to be topless. If men can go topless, why not women. Any argument against women being topless are silly. Equal rights trumps puritan morality

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No, is my final answer. This society can not even handle guns!!! And is not that I didn't enjoyed summer in Cannes or a year in Crete. Boundaries, boundaries, within those boundaries you can have your place but "public" as anywhere you feel like it... No, my final answer.

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It was the Nude Bike Ride here in Brighton too, just the other day... Several hundred butt-nekked pedalers rolling through town in a convoy about a quarter mile long. And here and there, around the periphery, people were walking naked in the streets, even after the crowd had passed.

And you know what? Apart from the giggling kids, barely anyone batted an eyelid — it was completely unerotic and inoffensive. But this is Brighton.

I'm unconcerned by nudity, I'll admit. I'm no lifestyle naturist, but if I'm on a nude beach, I'll undress without anxiety (we have one in this city). Personally, I think nudity at any beach, park or leisure area ought not be a problem — same for your own property — but for hygiene reasons, yeah, keep any part of the body that harbours stank covered up when around shops, public transport, cafés etc.

The World Naked Bi9ke Ride in Portland Oregon attracts over 10,000 participants each year. It takes about two hours for all the riders to pass by.

Most people don't bat an eye, but there are always those few (usually the fanatically religious) who react badly.

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On that ride trip I might have to pass the bike seat can very rough and shaky experience

When I bought my bike, P paid extra for a few conveniences, such as a more comfortable seat, puncture proof tires (the fivers in the rires are supposedly stronger than kevlar) and puncture resistant tubes, so I am comfortable on the ride and don't experience flats when riding.

I am aware some peopel buy special set sovers for when they ride naked.

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It didn’t work out in Bali

I am aware that Bali has nude beaches, but they are also a part of Indonesia, which although Bali is mostly Hindu, Indonesia has a lot of Muslim extremists. In either case Hindu or Muslim, women do nto have equal status or rights. Without legal equality, social nudism is problematic, due to a lack of legal equality.

@snytiger6 wait just a minute you are obviously one with issues with Islam. Only a very small part of the population, the highest in Islam, may be radical unlike Christians in America. Bali is a semi autonomous island where women for many years worn no tops until about 20 years ago hand stop the practice due to Americans, Australians, and Euros were googoo eyes. Indonesia is a relatively moderate state and let’s talk about legal equality such as women in this country are underpaid by 20-30 percent of men. Also check out the murder rate of women by men. Also research LDS and women..... I could go on but I think we need to be careful when throwing stones. Asaalam Alechum

@Millerski25 I only stated that women are not considered equal in either the Hindu or Muslim faiths.

I myself was raised in the Mormon faith, and in that too women were not considered equal. although in America women do (supposedly) have equal right.

In my mind any kind of inequality is unacceptable.

@Millerski25 wage gap is disproven, and men murder women at a 2-1 rate. not nearly as crazy lopsided as you seem to be implying (not that Im condoning it by any stretch, just correcting misinformation.)

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If god wanted us naked, we'd have been born that way....!

You obviously don't live in Alaska!

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I just want to say the female nipple is obviously EVIL but thankfully Baal gave men benign nipples. That's all.

LOL...

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I think it would be a hygiene problem, if people went nude all the time. Especially, where people sit.

That has been a concern of many respondents tot he question.

In nudist culture it is a given that you carry with you a towel or some other thine to sti on.

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Absolutely. It's hard to hide weapons that way.

I don't think I have ever considered that aspect....

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I think that public nudity shouldn't be that big of a deal. Of course, when using public spaces, you might want to put something down for the sake of keeping things clean and germ-free for everyone's use, but otherwise it would be fine. People who are comfortable with their bodies and feel no need to wear clothes should be allowed to do away with them. It's not inherently sexual. It's just freeing.

Also get a whole lot of savings on clothes. Though maybe not sunscreen

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