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Should public nudity be legal?

The AANR (American Association for Nude Recreation) has the view that public nudity should be legal as long as the person is not doing anything with the intent of sexually arousing either themselves or anyone else.

The most stated reason by members is to get over "body shame", because doing so helps boost self esteem and confidence. There have been studies showing that children raised in nudist family have higher self esteem and confidence and are just generally more comfortable with who they are as a person.

On the other side there are those persons who seek out nude beaches and nudist events who have seual agendas. AANR nudist clubs don't tolerate such persons, and forcibly remove them shoudl they show up. I refer to such persons as "swingers" because they seem to fit the swinger lifestyle more than they do the nudist lifestyule

However, as a point of freedom. A freedom of expression, which does tno do harm to anyone, shoudl public nudity be legal? As atheists are nto burdened with religious mores , I was just wondering what the people here think?

I am a natuirst (nudist) and I have ridden the Portland (OR) World Naked Bike Ride, which has over 10,000 participants each year, and I have gone on nude hikes, visited clothing optional beaches

So, what are your thoughts?

snytiger6 9 Oct 18
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I don't have a problem with as long as people carry a towel to sit on or hygyne reasons. For me personaly, I went topless at the beach for the first time last year. It was a big confidence booster because I'm transgender and was self consiece of my breasts. Now I go topless often anytime a man would, at the beach, hiking, etc. As far as I know it's legal in Hawaii and should be anywhere.

Good for you! Feeling positive about one's own body is a good thing. In Oregon, I have seen transgender persons go fully nude at the beach, even though they were in mid transition (breasts up top, penis down below).

I think most of our cultural taboos regarding nudity are rooted in religion, which has used fear, guilt and shame to try to manipulate us and maintain power and control over us.

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The less clothes I wear the better I feel

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Not really. From practical reasons to personal ones I think they should open a lot more areas for nudity but I don't like the idea of general public nudity.

AmyLF Level 7 Apr 1, 2018
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There just aren't very many people l want to see naked, especially in a restaurant.

Of course there wold have to be some regulation for hygienic purposes.

It really isn't about "seeing" people, so much as it is about personal freedom.

@snytiger6 No, it is definitely about seeing people.

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Optional is ok for some but not necessarily for others. This reminds of an old joke. A couple of shortsighted people were walking down the street when an older man jogged past them naked. One turned to the other and and said 'did you just see that man run past' and the other said 'yes' and then the first person asked 'what was he wearing?' and the other replied 'I'm not sure, but it sure needed ironing'.

RonB Level 5 Mar 30, 2018
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I personally think it should be legal. The problem with many people is they associate nudity with sex. Which is why this question is even a question. That to me can only be alleviated by allowing public nudity and showing people that just cause someone is naked does not imply that sex is involved or that there should be any shame in it.

That being said I prefer nudity over clothing as I am sure many do. Hopefully one day we can change the mindset and show people there is no shame in it and not to feel threatend by nudists.

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Americans tend to be very puritanical. many countries in the world accept peoples desire to be naked in certain places, like the beach. in Spain there is no nudity law so you can be naked anywhere you like, which I think is excellent as I love being nude.
In America I believe that you can be put on the sex ofender register for being naked in public.when did being naked turn you into a sex offender? crazy

Technically, in some states, but not all, just beign naked can put you on a sex offenders list. In Washington State is specifically beign naked in front of children. Evidently the law makers of various states ,made the presumption, in their small perverted minds, that if you are naked then you must be wanting to do something sexual.

As many people only get naked for either bathing or sex, for many it is hard to imagine beign naked outside of one of those two contexts. Feeling ashmaed of nudity and of your body is a learned behavior, which seems to go unquestioned as to whether or not it is healthy or reasonable. Many states in the U.S. reflect the nonthinking, and blind acceptance of presumptions which are rooted in religion and religious ideas.

In the U.S. a lot of our culture still carries the religious idea that authority is nto to be questioned, especially with conservatives, and religion teaches or rather demands that people do not question their authority.

So, people are taught to feel shame about nudity and to be ashamed of their bodies, and they seldom question whether or not they actually should feel ashamed.

It's a form of cultural dysfunction.

Not strictly true these days - although it was more tolerated 40 years ago, at the end of the Franco era. Nowadays, certain beaches are designated OK for nudity, but there must be signs informing the public of the fact. That way one can choose whether to rush on to the beach or shun it.

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PublIc nudIty must be banned,It doesn`t hIghlIght decentness of character. Human cIvIlIzatIon Invented cloths to cover theIr body. ClothIng should be decent to show,not be vulger to see. Decent clothIng Is a symbol of modernIsm , and nudIty Is a symbol of backwardness.

FAIZ Level 5 Mar 26, 2018

A lot of ideas from modern society came from Ancient Greece which idealized the nude body. In the ancient Olympics athletes competed in the nude. In ancient Greece and Rome clothign was more for warmth and protection than it was a sign of "beign civilized".In many cultures, although they wore clothing, thee was no shame associated with nudity. Shame for the nude body is a learned trait.

@snytiger6 clothing is actually being associated with civilised society, don't be panic,if ur daughter or sister roam arround u being naked what would u do? Will u support ? Or support them to be naked,clothing must be decent not be vulgar. Beleive or not but nudity seems good for others when a chance comes to apply it on ourseleves then tenets become change.

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I have no issue with it in principle IF it respects one of the most neglected of personal freedoms: freedom of association.

Maybe others don't want to see, much less learn to appreciate, my gnarly old bare ass. I should respect that.

Maybe some people don't want their gnarly old bare ass judged. That doesn't make them prudes or repressed or part of a clothes-ist conspiracy. Such people should not have to choose between being uncomfortably exposed or being thought of as holding back society. Some of us are more withheld then others, and that is okay.

Besides, it's not like all our problems would be solved and no new ones created if we all put Duluth Trading out of business because they can't sell any more Buck Naked Underwear (tm). I think modesty has upsides. For one thing it leaves a little bit of mystery, something for the imagination to engage with, rather than turning the human body into a clinical slab of meat. I submit that if nakeness were rendered basically asexual by widespread societal nudity, it would completely change the psychodynamics of sex, and probably not for the better, either. Foreplay, and, yes, un-dressing, is part of the fun.

Finally, as a pratical matter, clothing is not just to cover our sex organs, it has practical protective purposes. People aren't going to be frostbitten or scratched up by brambles just to prove a point.

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I work with a guy who is my height-5'7" and is way over 300 lbs and it's not muscle-so I really think that clothing optional is not an option here.
Although I think that the right clothing can make the after dinner date dessert way more interesting and fun.

I think ideals of beauty are nostly learned, as is feeling shame over how one looks.

The truth is that the guy you describe, would be seen as "disgusting" by most of society with or without clothes on. It is even worse for women. I dont' see any value to that learned behavior.

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I'm not really sure if it something that we need to be seeing, nudists walking down a city street. If they wanted to go to places where nudity would be more acceptable, no problem. Would nudists be acceptable in the work place? Would there be limitations? Going nude on public transportation?

For purposes of hygiene there would of course have to be some limitations. However the idea of feeling shame about nudity or about ohne's own body is a learned behavior that I think society could do better without having.

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Are we all carrying towels for hygiene, I FERVENTLY hope!?!

I'd hope to too. In naturist/nudist clubs that is the general etiquette.

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The Scottish author Sir Compton Mackenzie campaigned for women to be allowed to be topless back in the 1920s. Mind you he lived in the Hebrides where its pretty cold for most of the year. While Th this would be acceptable in public open spaces I think restaurants, cinemas, theaters and public transport would not be suitable for nudity.

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Only with lot and lots of education. We'd have to educate adults more so than children... likely be a never ending education (especially me)... maybe in the next world, when we populate another warmer, liveable planet, with beaches, lots of beaches and sunscreen.
No, none, zero religion allowed... ever... under the threat of crucifixion.

Tomas Level 7 Mar 15, 2018
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All within reason. More clothing optional Beaches, Yes. Stop criminalizing a womens breasts as indecent. If it doesn't apply to fat hairy men with big breast then it shouldn't apply to women.

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It sounds like you have plenty of options for going naked. Good for you, and enjoy! I enjoy nude resorts and spas myself from time to time.

If you are advocating for the freedom to be naked at any time, in any public space, I would have to take exception to that. Just as "freedom of religion" should imply "freedom FROM religion", so should "free to enjoy nudity" should also imply "freedom to avoid nudity in public". Or something like that.

Excellent point. As per smoking, feel free to subject your own lungs to it, but don't force others to have to share it.

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In very hot weather it would be pleasant - or even if women could go around topless in the summer - I do envy men who can just take their t-shirts off on a hot day, why can't I? (Especially as some men have man-boobs probably bigger than mine!)
If everyone was used to seeing others naked, there wouldn't be an issue.
Just not in eateries though, please...!

I know in NY women can go topless. However in Arkansas rather than let women go topless they actually made it illegal for men to go without shirts (although for men it is usually not enforced).

Unfortunately, think of the sexual harassment in city centres, and probable accompanying violence. I feel society should ban nudity in crowded areas (imagine a crowd of strange men pressing up against you and pretending it's because of the crowd.). In certain areas nudity rules could be relaxed, to allow people to be topless legally. (Some of the men I've seen topless, or dressed in a vest, in your neck of the woods are gross, by the way. So if they can go topless, why not women?) Beaches should allow people to be topless, unless designated otherwise. ... and certain, well marked areas should allow full nudity, provided there are warning signs prominently displayed so those who wish to stay away may do so.
Maybe you should suggest it to Caroline Lucas! 🙂

@Petter do I detect you're local to me? Caroline Lucas is of course our local Green MP although I don't actually live in her constituency. Actually Brighton has its own designated nudist beach, I don't use it, but although it caused a stir locally when first opened, nobody takes any notice now...

@Astrantia I live in the extreme South-East of Spain, but visit England regularly. My son lives in Banstead and my daughter used to live in Ardingly, but recently moved to Godalming. I own a house in Hailsham, very near to Newhaven, but it is let.
There are designated nudist beaches here, which likewise receive little attention.

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Yes. Is the human body so disgusting we have to make laws to prevent it being seen? No wonder we have so many problems around sex in this world. That being said, it's too late for me. I'm not showing my naked ass in public.

A lot of nudists actually start later in life. It seems the attitude is after you get so old that they just say "what the hell". Pesonally I wish I had started much younger.

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Don't "stone me", but I think no. These are my reasons. I grew up in a cult with major sexual abuse. Another example is the Catholic and Baptist churches with their sexual abuse stories hitting the fan. Plus intranet child porn being at a high. All of that to say it just provides too much more "easy access", in my opinion. There are simply too many deviants in our precious USA.

At nudist clubs I hear stories about the few deviants who show up are quickly spotted and removed with the clear message that if they ever come back they will held for the police. Teh Naturist/Nudist communities watch out for such persons and let them know they aren't welcome.

Of course that is at private clubs...

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Once I went to a nude diner...in Manhattan.

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Aside from the health and safety concerns (skin cancer being high on the list) I wonder were nudists with a cancelled carry permit would put their gun. LOL

Kimba Level 7 Mar 9, 2018
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I think it is fine to be nude in public.....just be sure to use sunscreen.

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I say go for it. The human body is not disgusting and evryone has one. There is really no reason not to go nude. Rapes occur with and without clothiing on the victims.

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I don't want to see everyone naked somethings should be left to the imagination

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Some studies have shown that children raised in such an environment are psychologically better balanced, and some show that exposure to adult sexual organs contributes to a feeling of body shane and feelings of inadequacy in children. Maybe there should be more studies with better paradigms to get to the truth.

My general feeling about nudity is that it seems unsanitary to me. People can leave germs on places other people sit, and some areas that come in contact with those germs, some of which can sit there for awhile, are areas that are more likely to pick up disease.

Beyond that, my first husband pretty much insisted on only wearing a muscle shirt around the house, and I got really annoyed with having to constantly try to get brown streaks off my white couches and light tan dining room chairs.

Wow. It sounds like yo had good reason for your ex to become an ex.

Nudist culture pretty much has persons carrying dowels to sit on for sanitary reasons.

Between the studies for kids raised by nudists and non nudists, all show that if parents don't make children feel ashamed of their own bodies, then they have a more positive life outlook and higher self esteem. Body shaming is actually much more common among persons who insist that everyone wear clothing all the time.

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