We don't have a word for non-believers of Santa Claus or non-believers of The Tooth Fairy, yet we live in a world where those who don't believe in God(s) or supernatural religious philosophies are labelled Atheists. I think that the state of non-believing is the normal state of things as it doesn't need to be taught, unlike religions. I am consequently uncomfortable with using the word and I feel that I concede grounds to their insanity when I use it. What are your thoughts?
I am neither comfortable or uncomfortable with the word "atheist" because it doesn't apply to me. Compared to the history of what we know of the current universe, humans created all their gods- and it was such a short time ago. It just doesn't interest me.
I am comfortable with the word, but so many people misunderstand what atheism is. I'm agnostic, but people think I'm atheist when I talk about my agnosticism because it does entail components of atheism. Also, theists think that atheists hate god(s) and so take offense, when the truth is that one cannot hate something that one feel does not exist.
Frankly, I really don't like the term. "A-theist" simply declares 'what you're not'.
It's like someone asking you on the phone, "What color is your hair?",
and you answer with, "I'm not a blonde."
On the other end of the line you hear...
"Ummmm... okay... Well, I wasn't asking what you're 'not'... I was asking what you 'are'.
Okay, you're just too weird. Good bye." (-click-)
I think that not discussing it with religious people is easier. I'm really not into arguing and for the most part I don't care what they believe as long as they don't impose on me.
I don't think I full understand it. I understand theist is belief in the existence of a god or gods. So why slap an a on the start and have that meaning be the opposite? Is this an English word? Who made it...We need to make a better one.
The "a" is from the Greek word "non" and it means that you are a nontheist.
It has taken me a while. I never liked Madeline Murray O'Hair. She seemed hateful. I still don't think I would feel comfortable wearing a T-shirt extolling Atheism. It may be because I detest any form of proselyting..
hey look. When you come to a reckoning you come to a r e c think o n i n g.
when anyone says merry xmas to me i want to puke. oh well let them celebrate their silly fairy in the sky.
can be construed to mean " here's to 3 public holidays and the winter solstice"
I use it for political reasons ,and I use it because I get tired of explaining Agnostic to people that obviously do not want to hear it.
I agree with that -- I feel like it's a bit presumptuous to declare there's no god, but I oppose the employment of god or belief in it in public policy, so I identify politically as atheist. And also the explaining thing.
I believe it is just a way of grouping and dividing people. I'm not comfortable with the word "Atheist" and what it implies. I have to catch myself correcting or justifying my position. Now, I just attack Christianity... LOL
Christianity deserves to be attacked. The God of that belief system is downright hideous!
That is a really interesting perspective. I think that people have been brainwashed from birth to believe the ridiculous to be credible, and I think that virtually everything in our society (particularly in places like the US) has been built on that myth. It makes sense to me that we carry legacy terminology with us.
I don't think people are brainwashed, I think people are emotionally vulnerable and part of that makes people able to accept all kinds of nonsense to fill in the gaps of those vulnerability because it's easier, not to say that religious folk are weaker, allot of people just don't have the time to sit around and ponder the nature of reality because they need to put food on the table, they need to keep the lights on, and they need to take care of their family. I really cannot blame religious people for being religious most of the time.
I have only recently "come out" as a non-believer, and have pretty firmly decided that I do not want to be labeled as an atheist. In fact, I do not want ANY labels attached to me that reference whether or not I believe in gods/supernatural beings, etc. My desire is to simply be known as a fellow human being, who like everyone else, must find their way through this life and make the best of each and every day...to do good, and to do no harm...
I like to say I am a humanist.
I only use the word atheist around other atheist friends who know what it means and doesn't mean. To most of mainstream society however, that term has been poisoned almost to the level of "nazi". People have a knee jerk negative reaction and immediately assume terrible connotations. It's better to describe oneself as a "non-believer" or "not religious" - at least at first.
I totally get that, and I agree it does have a stigma attached to it. I look at that as an opportunity to have a conversation, and to educate. but I also grew up around hardcore catholics, my aunts and uncles went to catholic school, so I used to be much more shy about it. but I also agree that non-believer and not religious can be just as effective, and mean the same thing
I have never believed in Gods since childhood and have always been firm and comfortable with the term Atheist and referring to myself as such . Are you uncomfortable because maybe you still have some belief that their is a God?
Just keep believing in yourself and be comfortable with what you've tagged yourself to be.
Just because we are not believe the lies about religions I do not think that should be labelled any name However since people call us Atheists, I call my self also, I am an Athiest and I am proud.
I agree. The important thing is you believe in what you believe your self to be, labels or no labels.
I really haven't spent much time on it. I have my own self labels that I like. What others think of my using aethiest to identify myself doesn't concern me.
I agree. The important thing is you believe in what you believe your self to be, labels or no labels.
you raise an interesting point, but I really do not care one way or the other
I agree. The important thing is you believe in what you believe your self to be, labels or no labels.
One of my pet peeves is when people think that atheism is a religious belief Other than that, I have no issues being openly atheist. It is quite an insult in certain circles, but I get amused when evangelicals clasp their pearls when they start speaking to me, so no problem there. In my opinion, the more open we are with the world, they will be forced to accept that atheist is not a dirty word.
Atheists: Come out of the closet! Look at what it has done for the gay community over the past 50 years!
I use it all of the time. I'm a proud Atheist. I also have a necklace and T-Shirt that I wear on the weekends so not to offend my co workers...LOL
I love it you have a necklace. Does it have a big curling "A" like the @ sign but capitalized?
I don't believe in absolutes.
I agree with that aspect . . . but with a little twist - a litlle twist of lemon in this absolutely clear spirit that I hold in hand - absolutely crisp and refreshing. Let's drink to that!
Atheism is a word. If 'you' are hung up on a word then where is the conviction of 'your' beliefs? Thinking 'you' need a 'badge' to identify 'yourself' as Atheist is no different than Jesus Jumpers walking around with crosses.
Not the point... many of us are coming from an era when a community would shun anyone claiming to be an atheist, was worse than being a “dirty commie”... noticed a post where it was asked if you are “out of the closet”, so the fear, concern is there. Imagine any politician coming out as atheist... stick a fork in him/her.
Have nothing against the word but the definition used for the word by those who believe is wrong. There is no way to prove the non-existence of a god or for that matter the existence of a god. I call myself an Atheist because I have seen no evidence of any god. I am 99.999999% sure that no gods exist. Should that 0.000001% prove to be true I would have to ask god why he/she/it didn't provide evidence to base a belief on.
Very well stated. Atheism isn't God doesn't exist, it's I see no rational reason to believe on does exist.
Agnostic, Athiest, Abortion... all ring with a similar sound. Seems many/most people, society find the word, the idea aberrant... (intended)... other than that, I’m wearing a pin on my collar.
Abortion was sold by most religions, politicos as the worst possible choice a person (couple) could make... murder, etc.
Atheism, denying the existence of the creator of life.. you’re “murdering” an innocent child/baby. Agnostic, thought of as the same... word association is there... “religion/politics” tell you how evil of all three choices are... (the guilt) haunt you the rest of your life.
... but, of course all these religions and their god love you...
... I should add, I’m taking old school thinking, the judgemental, the guilt... tough to get past the tag of “atheist”...
I was told by an agnostic coworker that I was the most militant atheist he knows. I truly think he was responding to my comfort level with being an atheist and an antitheist. I think when I truly came to understand how sad and silly religion is, it truly cemented my comfort level in my own beliefs. I'm pretty much through being passive when someone else tries to shove their religion on me. I'm me, love me or hate me, I'm still going to be me.
It's still a label, but I refer to myself as a non-theist, not an atheist. Purely a personal preference because I never try to convince anyone that there's no god ─ let people believe what they believe ─ though I will explain why I'm a non-believer if asked.
I feel comfortable with non-theist, agnostic, secular, humanist, skeptic. Words don't matter that much. I simply identify as non-religious. I often refer to myself as a Thinker. I try to think ... I give it a good try, lol.
I try to avoid labels for myself. I've never thought about representing myself as atheist or non-theist. I do, however, cringe when I find myself calling myself a vegetarian. It means I have slipped into a defining concept for myself. I don't eat meat but this doesn't warrant a descriptor. Vegetarian, atheist, public servant, all these labels detract from who or what we are away from the glare of presenting a social face.
I agree. We don't nd to explain. We are what we are.