ok, this is gonna stir in some problematic commentary and divide the opinions, but i'll say it. i saw "the phenomenon 2020" 2 days ago. the film is scary when it comes to understanding the high possibility that an alien maybe watching you closely when you are taking a shit in the toilet or kissing your girlfriend or even waiting for the bus at the station. however, the actual problem is that i don't think the mainstream science is telling the truth all the way. they are in a way lying about some historical events that have happened in the ancient past such as the flood but they deny it because it was mention in the so called "holy books", maybe these scientists do not want to shift the accepted theory from what people have learned to what it actually is.
i read the “holy books” from a historical point of view. and i know there are things that maybe “true” there, not because a god wrote the book, but because its a book that documented what happened and that people wrote such events tried to explain them using a celestial dimension that was the easiest for people to do back then. we must be smarter than just denying whats in these books: the koran and bible when they could and do actually contain some facts.
Randall Carlson is a master builder and architectural designer, teacher, geometrician, geomythologist, geological explorer and renegade scholar. he was hosted on Joe Rogan’s podcast #606 and there he stated that the floods have happened with evidence. which makes me as a thinker ask the question: why are the scientists denying it?
the reason i brought the aliens in the post is because there is a possibility that they have “created” us to serve a certain purpose according to Zecharia Sitchin in his book: The Lost Book of Enki. which is why they are coming more frequently in the recent few centuries to “check” on us and see how are we all doing or something.
I know this is not the strongest argument, but i think people on this website are openminded enough to understand the thought behind the post and provide a constructive opinion rather than just refusing it. thanks.
Zecharia Sitchin was one of the worst pseudo-scientists who existed. He was laughed at by reputable Sumerian scholars. Heck, I am not even a Sumerian scholar but know enough about mythology in general and the history of Mesopotamia to know what a crackpot he was. I tried to read one of his books but couldn't get through it when I saw his explanation of some vessels on a shelf in Sumerian iconography; he said the shapes were "obviously" laboratory beakers, but they are much more likely to be clay vases.
He also claimed that Sumerian culture/Mesopotamian culture developed "overnight," but the establishment of culture in the area can be documented. This claim also disregards the existence of early cities such as Jericho and Catalhoyuk. While these cites are not in Mesopotamia, they still point to the development of early cultures/cities.
There is no evidence of a worldwide flood. Yes, large local floods happened. Some theories about them are the Black Sea deluge and the rise of oceans after the last ice age. A tsunami (such as ones in our lifetimes) can also account for myths of the flood. When people were more centralized and did not travel much, their "worlds" were small, i.e. extensive flooding in the Pacific Northwest would constitute a "worldwide" flood.
Considering the widespread belief in aliens and the proliferation of alien conspiracy tales/beliefs, why would science--or governments--suppress information. Who would panic? What purpose would the suppression serve?
Occam's Razor: the simplest explanation is usually by far the correct explanation. I won't discount the accomplishments of early civilizations by believing that aliens taught them everything they knew.
And if aliens want to watch me in the toilet, they are certainly not advanced.
When you read those books you should curb your imagination and fears, or just leave those books alone until you grow up a bit.
However, my advice is just don't read those books at all, because they're all full of shit and designed to make you afraid, and they seem to be working with you.
The problem with books or documentaries is they set out to inform you and get you to think like the author wants you to think...to take their own theory's and make them a fact in their and your eyes...therefor selling more of the books or films,,,I do not believe that aliens have ever been here or ever will be...the problem with stories and conspiracies is that is all they are stories and conspiracies... you need 100% fact before it becomes real...
How do we know there was no world-wide flood? Boyle's Law (PV=nRT) has specific ramifications for that much of a change in water volume. Also, not enough water on the planet to turn us into water world (despite the movie). While I haven't done a deep dive, I seem to remember that some cultures don't have a flood myth, mainly ones that were far inland.
Aliens watching us, need the proof. Documentaries are not proof. I have made crop circles for a laugh and they got local attention (though never national attention) when I was in high school. Is it possible that there is a race of being from another planet watching us, sure. Is it possible we are in a simulation and not "real" as we would define it, also sure. Next question is where is the proof for either claim. Until the evidence is there, and it lines up as the best explanation, we do not accept them as such. I love Tolkien, have read all of his books, seen his major movies, and even biographical shows/movies about him that included info about Middle Earth. It doesn't mean that his fantasy world is a real place.
History refutes a world-spanning flood that wiped out nearly everyone on the planet. The supposed biblical flood is said to have occured around 2400 BCE. Yet civilizations existed during that time that have no record of being wiped out. The Mesopotamians, civilizations in what is now Pakistan and Afghanistan, the ancient Egyptians, and the Mayans all somehow survived this supposed flood.
That's aside from the utter nonsense of believing that animals from all over the world traveled thousands of miles to the Middle East to ride on a boat, then afterward all returned to their homes. Utter preposterous.
As far as aliens... it's quite plausible and likely that life exists elsewhere in the universe. Does intelligent life exist elsewhere in the universe? That's very plausible. But intelligent life that has created interstellar travel and found Earth becomes a bit of a stretch of the imagination.
Is it possible that life or human life was created by alien intelligence? Sure, it's not impossible but likely impossible to prove. And since homo sapieans first appeared about 100,000 years ago and our predecessors appeared some 300,000 years ago its equally plausible that if aliens did create us they might be long extinct.
By the way, almost every culture has a flood myth, but that is not proof of a worldwide flood; it is proof that large scale floods happened in many parts of the world.
And another by the way; flood myths typically involve a deity who is angry at humans. The earliest recorded floods myths are from Sumerian and Egypt. Sumeria's myth is chronicled in "The Epic of Gilgamesh" and the Hebrew account of the flood is so similar to it, there can be no doubt (except in the minds of Judeo/Xtians fundies) that is was adapted from the Sumerian myth.
And a last by the way: the Egyptian flood myth has an angry god (Ra) who sends the goddess Sehkmet to punish humans for being rude and disrespectful to the gods. However, she becomes too intent on her mission and kills so many people, the streets ran red with blood. Even Ra was dismayed and to stop her, he flooded the streets with beer. She drank, became drunk, and forgot about killing more humans.
I made this PPT on the flood myths for one of my myth courses: