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MEN ONLY: What is your race/ethnic origin?

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(Women's survey found here WOMEN ONLY: What is your race/ethnic origin? )

What is your race/ethnic origin?

(Answers based on USA Title VII of the Civil Rights act of 1964 employment non-discrimination questionnaire)

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TheMiddleWay 8 June 1
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If it's non-discrimatory, why ask what race anybody is?

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These are just broad racial groupings with a couple of specific ones, like Native Hawaiian etc. It's also US centric. I am no authority on racial group analysis, and while I'm not questioning your motives, I think this is not well conceived.

@TheMiddleWay and you think, what, that the overwhelming response to this post has been positive?

@TheMiddleWay ah, so it's just quantity that counts. I see. Really set on reaching L9 aren't you?
Well, I qualify things a little differently.

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White and black are colours, not races/ethnicities. As for me, my ethnic origins are European; my colour is pink.

@TheMiddleWay "White" is neither race nor ethnicity.

@TheMiddleWay My census answer would be "Other" - "European".

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We're a' Jock Tamson's bairns

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Our kind has populated this planet for many thousands, many tens of thousands of years. Most of us aren't able to name all eight of our great grandparents and certainly not all 16 great great grandparents and that only covers about, generously, 150 years. MIx into this The adopted orphans/waifs commonly taken-in by our more naturally loving ancestors and a few gardeners, house servants, secret lovers and flexible landlords and nobody really knows what their ethnic heritage is, because it is more and less based on myth.

So, wherever our ancestors originated chances are the more than 1,000 direct parental contributors to our personal 'ethnicity' about 500 years ago; its a pretty safe bet that they weren't all of any one ethnic or racial group. That is one of the things revealed by the recent availability of DNA evaluation and even it has it's limitations. Some people look at their face in a mirror and really believe skin pigmentation defines their race and surnames of parents symbolize ethnicity. Before 'ethnicity' as we know it existed, even it was formed by ancient migrations and assimilations of earlier, many earlier 'ethnicities' and races; not by a paltry couple or three thousand years, but tens of thousands of migrating and environmental changing ages. Ethnicity was born yesterday.

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Why the hell do you want to know that?

@TheMiddleWay duh. Didn't answer the question: why the hell do you want this information?

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Lol, this kind of question don't even make sense where I come from.
I have italians, spanish, portuguese, american natives, africans.

@maturin1919 they don't even matter that much, most of people are mixed, just some really idiots care about being part of a pure ethnicity.
I can look more like white but for real with all this mixing, what are my ethnicity?

@maturin1919 So you can say by yor definition I am hispanic ethnicity (Brazil has lots of difference from spannsh america but it counts). And about race... I really do not know.

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@TheMiddleWay
Exactly... <I think>

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Although this makes for an interesting survey this is two questions as academically I think you will find that race and ethnicity are different. Race is physical and ethnicity is cultural. It will return confused data to analyse unless the two terms are separated

@TheMiddleWay The difficultly is if you ask the ethnicity of third generation Indian, Hispanic or Anglo-Celtic Americans what they relate to culturally. Most likely the same but racial they are different due to physicality.

@TheMiddleWay sounds like an interesting study. ? Good luck

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Human race: white;yellow;red;brown;black;pink
Human race: Euro;Asian;African;Austalian;SouthAmerica;NorthAmerica
Human race: Amer-Indian; Southern Mediteranian Greek/Italian; Northern European Swedish/Finnish; Atlantic Euro Scottish /Spanish............oh never mind.

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The Jews are going to be upset you didn't have a separate line for them. I never got that. How can Jewish be a race?

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Yeah I know... booooring.

godef Level 7 Feb 17, 2019
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Ancestors on my father's side were escaped slaves who made it to Canada. In 1915, my great grandmother traveled from Alberta to the Chicago World's Fair and purchased the first plot of land in a newly founded town in Michigan.

Ancestors on my mother's side were freemen who owned an island off the coast of Louisiana. Before the Civil War and until the Jim Crow era, they got rich from renting that land to the timber industry. They were eventually forced off their land (along with millions of other black people) during the Great Migration.

Buxx Level 7 Feb 17, 2019

@TheMiddleWay black

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Glad to see word Caucasian was not included. I had to point out to someone that it also includes Asians, Europeans, African and the Middle Easterners.

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I don't do "race", it's a social construction used to fortify racist notions, however I do cultures and I share both African and Indigenous cultures which both happen to be very similar and in instances the same. I don't understand the terms "Black and White" albeit I used them for expediency, but I prefer African, European because they are geo PLACES whereas there's no such place as Black or White land..

@icolan what makes it a "scientific valid concept?" do you know its origins? Remember this was in the 17 and 18 hundreds and you know how "scientific" they were at that time..lol

Racial anthropology
Further information: Physical anthropology § History, and Historical race concepts

Blumenbach's five races.
Blumenbach's work included his description of sixty human crania (skulls) published originally in fascicules as Decas craniorum (Göttingen, 1790–1828). This was a founding work for other scientists in the field of craniometry. He divided the human species into five races in 1779, later founded on crania research (description of human skulls), and called them (1793/1795):

the Caucasian or white race. Blumenbach was the first to use this term for people of European origin, believing that the people of the Caucasus were the most beautiful of the world.[2]
the Mongolian or yellow race, including all East Asians and some Central Asians.
the Malayan or brown race, including Southeast Asian and Pacific Islanders.
the Ethiopian or black race, including sub-Saharan Africans.
the American or red race, including American Indians.
Further anatomical study led him to the conclusion that 'individual Africans differ as much, or even more, from other Africans as from Europeans'.

Blumenbach argued that physical characteristics like skin color, cranial profile, etc., depended on geography, diet, and mannerism.

Like other monogenists such as Georges-Louis Leclerc, Comte de Buffon, Blumenbach held to the "degenerative hypothesis" of racial origins. Blumenbach claimed that Adam and Eve were Caucasian inhabitants of Asia (see Asia hypothesis),[12] and that other races came about by degeneration from environmental factors such as the sun and poor diet. Thus, he claimed, Negroid pigmentation arose because of the result of the heat of the tropical sun, while the cold wind caused the tawny colour of the Eskimos, and the Chinese were fair-skinned compared to the other Asian stocks because they kept mostly in towns protected from environmental factors. He believed that the degeneration could be reversed in a proper environmental control and that all contemporary forms of man could revert to the original Caucasian race.[13]

@icolan just like a European culturalist... the past means nothing and has no connection to your glorious future which by the way in unknown and unknowable.. take care icolan

@TheMiddleWay if i didn't use them, most folks won't know what the hell I'm talking about because they have been so enculturated.. as an example, your response..

@TheMiddleWay it wasn't just on craniology, there's religious, cultural ideologies, anatomy and social theory all mixed in there together.. SKCell evolved from geological disposition and ALL people in the topics didn't develop the disease. However, and you won't believe me, because as I've found out over the years, this statement doesn't support Euro science or cultural ideology; but ALL people from the geo region we call Africa do share a deep seeded cultural kinship.. Tell me why didn't the African, who has been on the planet as human beings pretty much forever, develop the mechanical precision of the ballet? However, all Africans share in their rhythms of Nature in dance and ideas of communal-ism as opposed to the Euro idea of individualism.

@icolan ideas of race are social theories...now just like 'power" allows you to change meanings to suit your political climate doesn't alter it's original purpose. for example, the usage of the word "white and Black' to refer to this idea of race is antiquated with the advent of those very things you mentioned, DNA, biology, genetics, "miscegenation" however we still use the words, why? Because it suit the Europeans political, cultural, economic and social purpose..

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"White" is not a descriptive ethnic origin. My ancestors were, Norman (Brit), Swedish, Danish, and Polish. Each has its own customs and languages. So, I am made up of three (if you lump Swedish and Danish together...both damned Vikings), separate ethnic groups, the Slavs, Normans who invaded England from Northern France and the Vikings who instilled my mother with a love for cream-based cooking as in Swedish Meat Balls and cream sauce (disgusting!) instead of tomato based stuffed cabbages. But, the polish cooking on my father's side was not much better (cream/milk/sour cream instead of tomatoes).

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Human race.

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