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How many members on here are openly atheists in the bible belt? And are you treated differently?

freeofgod 8 Apr 28
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Me and yes

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Texas ,but I seldom discuss religions with friends or neighbors .

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I’m not sure there’s such a thing as the Bible Belt. Pew polls show the South to be only a few percentage points more religious than the country as a whole, and about on par with the Midwest.

I live in a rural part of Alabama and no one ever bothers me about religion. None of my closest acquaintances are believers. I don’t call myself an atheist however, just not a follower of traditional religion.

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I live near Huntsville, Alabama. Never in my adult life have I believed in Biblical literalism, and I've not had any greater problems from that than from any of the millions of other differences between human beings.

skado Level 9 Apr 28, 2019

How open are you among casual acquaintances? Say--we're meeting at a party and I ask you the (ever-so-obvious) question..."Which church do you attend?" (Code for...are you in MY church?) What do you say?

I can't imagine how difficult it would be.

@LucyLoohoo
I can't even remember the last time somebody asked me that question, but if they do, I either say I don't attend church, or I say my church is the wilderness and the open sea. If they want to proselytize, I'm as ready to share my worldview as they are. If they want to judge me, I tell them the Bible says not to do that.

@VictoriaNotes
I think there is a very important difference between assessment and judgement. If, for example, I encounter an angry person with a knife in a dark alley, there is nothing unwise or unfair in assessing him to be dangerous and moving away as fast as possible. I believe there is, however, a moral jeopardy to myself, as well as to him, if I then go further and judge him to be morally inferior to me. This is how I parse all of that.

@VictoriaNotes
No. It doesn’t have anything to do with me. It’s just their error. It’s not pleasant, and it’s destructive in the world, like all error, but it’s not about me; it’s about them. They have no authority over me.

@VictoriaNotes
The OP asked for people's experiences. I have reported mine. I realize others have had different experiences, and I'm not denying them.

@VictoriaNotes
When I say it doesn't have anything to do with me I'm not saying crime, whether legal or moral, has no effect on the quality of my life. I'm saying that when somebody incorrectly assesses or morally judges me, it says more about them than it does me. When I say they have no authority over me, I don't mean they don't wield power that could and does hurt me. I mean I don't have to bow, psychologically, to an illegitimate authority. I don't owe them an explanation, or even a response, and I sure don't owe them fear or even deference.

You're mistaken if you think I don't care about the problems of ignorance, and cruelty. We just use different names for it - you call it religion and I call it fundamentalism. I spend every free hour of my waking day, and many hours at night working to bring light to this problem. There's literally no issue I care more about.

@VictoriaNotes
"Whenever I'm discussing a religious topic it has to do with liberalism, and I've made that quite clear based on the content."
I know we've talked about this some before, but it's not fresh on my mind. Could you unpack this a bit for me? Seems like I remember we have somewhat different impressions of liberalism, as well.

@VictoriaNotes
Oh, OK, I see. Got it. Thanks.

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I'm not in the closet but I don't try to advertise it either. I frequently work at a kitchen for homeless people,; it's run by a Southern Baptist Church and each night I listen to bigoted preachers. I stay in the back of the room reading books like "Atheism: The Case Against Christ" iin full view of the preacher. I never get in trouble because they know I'll expose their hypocrisy. (And I know I cannot easily be replaced. My boss knows I'm smarter than him. Plus, I think he's a closeted gay man and is a bit afraid of me.) I simply (or not so simply) don't bring it up. Hate it though because I so want to call out this hate speech. But this isn't the right time or place.

I've decided I will not let anyone shame me for being honest with myself. If anyone attempts to proselytize me, he/she better be prepared to defend what he's saying. Until then I don't give a damn and I'm never going back in the closet.

Buxx Level 7 Apr 29, 2019
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Socially, I'm ostracized by neighbors and coworkers. It's frustrating...

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I live in Georgia but no, I'm not treated differently. I'm open, but I don't introduce myself as Steve the Atheist. It's not something people generally know first meeting me. And once they do, they usually avoid the topic, which is probably the best choice if they're religious.

I have a cousin who lives in Georgia, he's Catholic but a true blue Democrat. Similar but different.

@silverotter11 I don't understand. What do mean?

@Sdusmith Well as a religious person he fits in but mostly Georgia is republican, he is a democrat and gets shunned a bit for that. Similar but different.

@silverotter11 Oh I see. Yeah that's true. And the churches are not silent on the matter. They are very right leaning and use the pulpit to sway paritioners.

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I’m not sure if Cincinnati is in the Bible Belt and I’m less sure what it means exactly to be an open athiest. I don’t hide the fact that I don’t believe, but it so rarely comes up that it hardly even matters.

Open atheist. Someone asked you to church you say no thanks I'm an atheist.

@freeofgod The last time I was asked to go to Church was 10-12 years ago by a friend who knew I was an athiest. So yeah, it’s pretty rare.

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Hi, western Kentucky here. Define "openly."

I'm quiet. If a friend asks, I'll tell them. Some don't care, others care but not a lot. Few have cut me out or anything. In general though? I don't advertise. When I get asked what church I go to I just say I don't, not that I don't believe. People will default assume you're just a non-practicing Christian and that's a-OK with me.

I'm open. In this part of western ky it's still stigmatized harshly. I just got tired of making excuses.

@Xuande, When theists come knocking you say not interested I'm an atheist. When anyone asks you to church you reply with the same. That openly.

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Atheist in Tennessee. Yes, my experience is In will be treated differently at work. I tend to not let people know I am an atheist. Surprisingly large number of kids out here are atheist.

The kids didn't grow up with the crap we did. IMO

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In mid Missouri I am treated somewhat differently but I don't really care. I do care enough to keep it toned down at my workplace though because that bunch is highly religious. You know, like they even gave us $15 extra for Easter. What a biggie!

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I am openly Atheist in NC which is super conservative and uber religious. I am not usually treated different, but from time to time I meet a bigot that starts trying ostracize me. However I usually push their buttons by countering their bible verses with actual facts or tear into their hypocritical logic. I then expose their cherry picking the convenient parts of their bible while disregarding the other parts. It is quite fun actually.

When someone tries to ostracize you just remeber: they're the fucking ostrich! No one makes a bird outta me goddamn it!

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Depending on whose chart you are using, Nebraska is apparently part of the Bible Belt. I don't believe I have ever been adversely effected by being an atheist, but the subject seldom comes up. When approached by proselytizers, I simply tell them I am an atheist, I don't have time for their beliefs, and to have a nice day. My sister is the only one who persistently reminds me that I am going to hell, but I let that slide because she's my sister. Other than that, anyone whose opinion I care about doesn't seem to care what my beliefs are.

Atheists CAN'T go to hell . According the the Bible God created Angels . Lucifer , one of his favorited , rebelled , and was exiled from heaven . As atheirst don't believe in God . therefore . hell does not exist for Atheists . Only Christisana can go to hello .

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They are in hiding from evangelical Christians to avoid being burned at the stake as heretics. Lol

bobwjr Level 10 Apr 28, 2019

I know you're jesting, but I once had the distinct impression that, if it were still legal and allowable, I would have been executed by one particularly zealous and hateful "Christian". All simply because he found out I was atheist - we didn't even have a conversation about it. Sent chills down my spine when I realized just how much he hated me. I could feel the anger and violence bristling just beneath his barely contained exterior.

@Piratefish true

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I don't think Southern Ohio is "bible-belt" country.
In my quiet neighborhood, 5 of the seven households on our cul-de-sac attend church and are believers. I'm openly "heathen/agnostic" and we all get along just fine. The disturbing thing for me was my time spent working at the USAF base here. AF officers are apparently rabid Christians, as are the majority of DoD civil servants. While they tolerated me and I've numerous friends in this population, there was always that level of discomfort.

Southern Ohio is the Rust Belt, just like Michigan. I guess we're not considered the Bible Belt now that I look it up, but we're definitely in the center-of-the-nation religious zone as opposed to the coasts, where secular thought is the rule and religion is more the exception.

[thoughtco.com]

Do you think the highly regimented and disciplinary nature of the military attracts people who accept authority in other forms, e.g., religion?

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I don't live in the bible belt, but I do live in a very rural, highly conservative area. Most people here believe in God, but despite the rural nature of this area there's a fair amount of diversity in the degree of religious devotion. I don't hide my views on religion, but neither do I generally volunteer such information without good reason. It rarely comes up in casual conversation. Even when it does come up, e.g., with people I know well enough to have longer conversations, I'm able to hold my own and effectively express my justification for non-belief without difficulty. I get the most resistance from within my own family — an aunt, an uncle, a few cousins, cousins' spouses. I'm a big boy, though, and I hold my own. But atheism isn't a hobby for me, so I'm happy to discuss other things and rarely do I bring up any criticism of religious belief unprompted. I think I've gained a great deal of wisdom over time, and my temperament has evened out; when I was younger I was more on edge about religion, but now I have a more laissez-faire attitude about it. Regardless, those who know what my views are generally accept that I'm not ignorant or don't assume I haven't considered their reasons for believing, and I don't have serious conflicts. Even if I were in the bible belt, I don't think I'd have many problems. The devout may have stronger opinions, but there is a sizable percentage in even the most religious states that's nonreligious. I think more may keep it to themselves just because it's a more religiously charged environment, but it's not impossible to make friends with like-minded people.

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I don't hide it. It just seldom comes up.

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Once in a while someone will ask if I go to church. I tell them no I'm a heathen. I'm pretty much in the closet regarding atheism, it just seems to be easier this way. If folks want to go to church, that's fine by me, I could care less what others do, but it works both ways, don't worry about if I go to church or believe and everything will be good.

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interesting comments. but how does religious affiliation crop up so frequently? i've never run into this. No one has ever asked me about my beliefs and i've never questioned anyone. Why have others been hounded, harassed or head-butted over religion?

Tribalism. That's the answer to both your questions.

@Buxx what do you mean by tribalism?

@Doubter, I see you are in California. It's not the same in these small areas where everyone just assumes you go to church and the majority of people have never, knowingly, met an atheist.

@TheDoubter , you're either with them or against them 😟

@freeofgod thanks

@TheDoubter

Why Toxic Tribalism Is Destroying Our Society & What To Do About It [medium.com]

@freeofgod i've just had a difference experience then. but in two years in the Army, 13 years in Mexico and 40 years in CA and CO I never ran into the quwstion.

@Buxx This idea of Tribalism has caught my attention because of my ideological views developed from being a non European. Can you think of instances where tribalism is necessary for survival in the wake of being subjected to a dominate culture?

It is the way of the south.
“Hi, nice to meet you.. Which church do you attend? What church based school does your child attend? Oh.. um.. “

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I'm in Arizona, and surprising, not many ask. The Southwest has more viewpoints than people think.

I had more persecution in NYC.

Keita Level 5 Apr 29, 2019

Tucson is much better than the rest of Arizona...imo.. more Blue and more True.

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I am, and no, not particularly, albeit, on occasion, yes. I kinda think that most people's X-tianity is just kind of, they want to be covered, just in case it turns out there actually is a God. And for others its just kind of a Church on Sunday lifestyle kind of thing. All of which shields the real problem of the manipulation of Christendom by the Zionists to support and fight their wars of world domination. Iran is currently in their cross hairs.

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I'm actually told what a good Christian I am...with the, "yeah, I know what you say but...." opening.

@Sally, my family finally stopped telling me I believed in god after about twenty years of me telling them I did not 🙂

@freeofgod I've been telling them that for 15 or so years, they still don't get it.

@Sally , so five more years and your family will accept it : )

@freeofgod my family gave up on me ages ago (I am the certified black sheep, above & beyond the sister that's been divorced 4 times). These are my coworkers.

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We are still far away from judgment free environment. If you go about screaming to the world that you are an atheist then you will end up ostrasized and probably jobless...... it's common sense, at least to me anyway. No one needs to know but myself.

@VictoriaNotes Understand..... in my personal case, for whatever reason, no one ever ask me. Of course I like it this way. I never offer though

@VictoriaNotes Correct, no one needs to know and it's not my job to convert no one either. Works for me.

@VictoriaNotes They are entitled to their opinion as long as they don't try to convert me.

@VictoriaNotes I like my approach better....we have too many laws already. They become meaningless when we try to get laws in place for everything

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Why would anybody be openly atheist in the bible belt? And what kind of question is that, my good man? Are you TRYING to provoke a response? If so, well done!

Because I got tired of telling half truths. I don't go to church. I'm an atheist.It's much simpler for me 🙂

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Once in a while someone will ask if I go to church. I tell them no I'm a heathen.

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