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Christianity is a fraud religion since it is based on two events that never happened; a virgin birth and a resurrection.

retiredguy 4 June 27

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It's what people believed in back in those times. And those beliefs have been passed on throughout history into todays society via our parents (minus Agnostics/Athesists). As we grew older we saw the logic and questioned religion to the point that we are now agnositcs/athesists.

Trod Level 5 July 17, 2019

Perhaps Jesus didn't even exist. There are no contemporary records of him.


As far as I know the the word was mistranslated from "young woman" to "virgin." So the virgin birth was not a prophecy to begin with.

Also Jesus had siblings. I assume he was the oldest because if he wasn't then.........well you see where this going, right?

I see exactly where you are going and Yes, according to the Buybull stories, he had an elder brother named James, therefore, either Joseph was previously married and then a widower OR Mary was a widow, OR she'd played around long before she had met Joseph.
Anyway you look at it, the whole myth is little more than absolute bullshit.


"I can buy the mother and the child. But not the virgin birth!"--(Some old eighteenth-century French Philosophe, or another!)


Both of which events are central to a number of religions. That does not make Christianity a makes Religion a fraud, whose primary purpose has always been crowd control. But I’m sure that I’m preaching at the choir here, if you’ll forgive the expression.


There is so much more to use in an argument vs god/agnostic. It is based on being he may never have even existed. []
Also placing Jesus above god when god said (according to the mindless writers of the bible which is still ongoing) that's called idolatry and god said "HOLD NO OTHERS BEFORE ME". As far as Mary...she is of the deny deny deny version of events.

You accuse the "mindless" writers of the Bible for clarifying that Jesus Cults are bad? I don't get it

@bbyrd009 whot? Regular people have been "improving" the bible since they started it right after they created god in their own image. Yes. Mindless.

@K9Kohle789 Ah well in English anyway, sure. But even the Bible warns about this, "scribes," so just read in the original, from a lexicon? Big diff.

@bbyrd009 Cults are bad. Full stop. I not a fan of absolutes but this one I am on board with.

I never come across one that has been acknowledged as good.

@rovingamber well, wadr the meaning of the word has changed somewhat i think from its use in the Bible, cultus used to be the completely acceptable way to state ones "school of thought," and was not a slur then. So i agree with you, jim jones bad, sure


Maybe but I’m pretty sure the part where the donkey talks to the man when he’s whipping him in the Old Testament is 100% true

no suh

Ha that would never have been taken literally then, we have just forgotten what "donkey" represents, represented then, i guess


“The Virgin Mary… We have a whole religion based on a woman who really stuck to her story.”
—Greg Giraldo

It makes you wonder how many girls since then have told that line to their father. Honest dad i'm really still a virgin. God immaculately concepted me and I've really never been with a man.


All the religions are fraudulent and nasty according to my female point of view.

If God existed and demanded my worship I would do so- even out of fear and just accept the fact that I have to answer to a mysoginidtic, tribal, genocidle asshole. I reject religion because it is nonsense. Hitler, Trump, etc. They exist, they're nasty, they have/had power.

I am not here to accuse. Just merely point out that you may have rejected religion because it is nasty and the fradulent bit is based on that. Just something to consider.

@rovingamber, Good you are not here to accuse. You just sharing your point of view like me or everybody. Maybe I did not explain myself well. Ok first I don't know the meaning of the word that you are using "fradulent" forgive me for my ignorance. I'll change the fraudulent word for "dishonest, false, corrupt".


Just like socialist religious dogma!

zesty Level 7 June 28, 2019

Yup no shit

bobwjr Level 9 June 28, 2019

Exactly. Just like all the religions.

zesty Level 7 June 28, 2019

Great Scott!! you mean to say its all a bunch of boloney?

Nardi Level 7 June 28, 2019

If you accept the "believer" interp, certainly. So i mean note the progression if you will; "believers are obviously deceived, and believers say ___ is in the Bible, ergo the Bible is deception." ? Ok


It is easy to see that the dogmas of Christianity as propagated by Churches are false or mythical in nature and should not be taken literally—there’s no need to wallow in the fact, to say it over and over, because almost all discerning people agree. Even Jesus himself is reported to have said that he was not a lord but a brother. Apparently Jesus was not a Christian.

The actual teachings of Jesus as written have merit IMO. Even if Jesus never existed, someone wrote those parables and sermons and there is no harm in looking at them.

When presented with the staggering implications of the mystery of existence, the appropriate response is not belief or disbelief in some dogma or other. An aware person is smitten with a sense of deep awe, appreciation and reverence. His holy scripture is nature itself.


Mythology and other fiction is okay when labeled as such. Fraud enters religion when people present the mythology as if it were reality. (And then they demand money from the "believers," turning the fraud into a scam.)


many will be deceived is not in there for nothing i guess, ya.


All religion is a fraud.

The OT is a record of the failure of religion, after all yeh


It totally agree. It's based on unverifiable events and it discourages its followers from doing their own independent research.

Christianity, certainly, the Bible, not even a little, ok? test everything, and keep what is good


True, then there is the burning bush, Moses getting 10 Commandments, and a host of others. ALL religions are a fraud.

Bobby9 Level 8 June 28, 2019

Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. yes, all religion is fraud, easily read in the Bible bro.


Did the Virgin Mary give consent? Is Jesus the product of sexual assault?

Buxx Level 7 June 28, 2019

so other religions are NOT fraudulent because all of THEIR stories are true? really?



"Religion is built on fictions and therefore religion is inherently bad" - this is an argument we hear or read quite often (in various variations), but it is a classical logical non-sequitur.

That something is a fiction, that it does not exist in the scientific sense, does not make it bad. In fact we are all the time surrounded by all kinds of fictions, not only surrounded but they are in our minds, we could not even live without them, they constitute our cultures : Stories, myths, nations, countries, money, laws, moral norms, human rights, conceptual abstractions like "freedom" or "goodness"... all of them do not exist 'out there' in the world that can be studied by science - but that does not make them bad or even detrimental to our wellbeing.

You have to take a close look at each of them and decide if it is - so to speak - white, black, or (in most cases) checkered or grey. A lot of people like to see their world only black and white, and that certainly is not a good thing!

Matias Level 8 June 28, 2019

Some of the material in the religious texts is good - the admonitions to treat others with respect, be kind to the poor, the widows, the orphans, to not judge others - those are good teachings. Trouble is, many religions tend to skip over the teachings that emphasize human rights and they concentrate on other things.


True. It is also an ugly religion because it is abusive to women.

SKH78 Level 8 June 27, 2019

With any religion, women take it right in the teeth. This gutless bullying is one of the most despicable aspects of all religions. It is pathetic, cruel and to say the least, counterproductive. How any woman can voluntarily remain a member of a religion like Christianity baffles me. Having said that, I understand that there is peer pressure, family pressure, fear of spouse abuse and loss of support, and many other reasons to take the path of least resistance and capitulate. I understand, but this does not make it right. Whew...Long winded...And we ask a lot of our women....But UNTIL women break through from this intimidation and VIRTUALLY SLAVERY, nothing will change.

Again, having said this, I don't know if I would have the guts to be a woman with all the headwinds. It is a huge burden to bear and fight.

Religions are abusive with women and I think there is a very simple reason for that. They need to control their uteruses. They need them to give birth to as many baby followers as they can. It's way easier to get them in their cribs than when they're grown up.

i know a lady from india. she said women were (not sure if it still happens) kept out back with the cows

Yet "there are no male or female" as far as the Bible is concerned, hmm


We must attack all religions equal,its necessary all religious bigots should be treated equally.

General worldwide apostasy!

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