Do you say the pledge of allegiance, when called to do so in a public setting? If so, do you include the words "...under god?" If not, do you stand or do you remain seated if you are already seated? I myself stand and pledge my allegiance because I want folks to know that I--a liberal, agnostic, Democrat--am invested in making this country as good as it can be, but I don't say "under God."
I don't do the pledge of allegiance, salute, or put my hand over my heart when the Anthem is played. I will stand, but that is it. I don't bow my head when public prayer is happening either. It would be totally dishonest on my part to do so. I just happen to be born here. I have no respect or allegiance to "things", only to people and animals.
I have a real problem with patriotism in that it all too often feels more like jingoism. When Colin Kaepernick peacefully took a knee during the National Anthem in protest of police brutality, he was exercising his Constitutional right to protest what he saw as racism. The patriotic thing to do would have been to respect his right to do so. The jingoistic thing to do was exactly what everyone did -- lose their collective shit and call for him to be punished for disrespecting a song that ostensibly celebrates his freedom to peacefully take a knee in social protest.
Ironic, isn't it?
I'm not much for pledging allegiance. It feels a bit divisive to me. I'm involved in my local community, I vote regularly, and I'll gladly serve jury duty when called, but a pledge of loyalty seems weird and unnecessary to me. Maybe if had a powerful government position or if I were in the military or secret service or government intelligence it would make sense to take such an oath, but I feel more like Thomas Paine did in this regard: "my country is the world, and my religion is to do good." As for "under God," I won't say that regardless; not only do I not believe it, but it's also strange/ironic to me that the phrase "one nation indivisible" was divided by the insertion of "God."
If everyone in my vicinity knew that I was a liberal, agnostic atheist and I felt like politely representing, I would probably do something similar. Realistically, they do not, and I’m never at an event where this sort of nonsense is going on to begin with. Lately now that I hear of people being assaulted for not standing for the anthem I’d probably sit and dare someone to say something to me. There are limited ways I can use my white privilege but supporting the protest against our fascist, racist, hypocritical, evangelical government is the least I can do. I owe no allegiance to any flag or god; just my fellow humans, who are suffering under this nationalist bullshit. I love my country but my government has some motherfucking explaining to do.
No. I am not participating in such a clear form of propaganda and indoctrination willingly. I remain seated. In protest of all the atrocities that this country commits daily in the name of that flag, patriotism, and their imaginary friend, god. That, and fuck getting up for no good reason.
Absolutely not and here, in my area, there are seldom events that do this. My late partner quit her sub job at the local school as the new principal was having this said over the intercom and, of course, they never tell people it is their right to not participate.
I did it as a child in school, because it was mandatory.
I no longer recite it, and depending upon where I am, and who I'm with,
I will remain seated during it's recitation.
I will not pledge allegiance to any flag, or country.
I don't respect "patriotism", or nationalism. I find most of it false and
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I will not participate in that, no matter who I piss off.
As a public school teacher in Texas I pledged every morning for 31 years. I think I am grandfathered in and no longer have to recite it. lol
I did stand and stood what in military jargon is called "at ease". No hand over my heart and do not say "under god".
Like mistymoon77, I'll avoid it when I can.
I find the pledge to be very annoying. I do not like it at all. It has been several years since I have been in a situation where it was done, so not sure what I would do today. In the past I went along, just to move the meeting along to get to the real point of that meeting. Not sure I would do that today. Either someone believes in their country and will stand by it, or they do not feel that way. Saying a pledge does not make you MORE inclined to be patriotic.
As a Britisher I do not have to pledge allegiance or loyalty to anyone or anything. I'm surprised that anyone in a free country should want to do so. It makes me think of Germany when everyone in the army had to pledge allegiance to Hitler. Don't bend the knee in subservience to anything but your own conscience.
I find that knowing people from their actions is a much greater indicator of their character and how they feel about things than simplistic incantations mumbled by rote at football games and such. A robot I'm not, and Pavlovian conditioning didn't take with me. I stand out of respect, but do not make meaningless noises for the sake of showing how patriotic and loyal I am.