Tolerance of bigotry is complicity and not a virtue.

@JimG @NoPlanetB He didn’t say that he hates lesbians, just that he’s jealous of them. It didn’t seem offensive to me. You can’t fix jealousy by spreading your own brand of hatred. And what about the racist responses? Is that ok?

The guy feels pain and was open to discussion. He’s just a human like all of us. No worse.

@WilliamFleming I never saw anything racist. But I might have missed it.

@WilliamFleming I don't . Just remember checking his profile and he referred to dating women as getting tail and responded that that might be where he should start as far as understanding why he was having a problem.

@WilliamFleming
He was Caucasian

@darthfaja The guy who was jealous of lesbians was a young Black man from Texas. I looked.

@WilliamFleming
Not how I remember him
But ok

@WilliamFleming

The OP here has every right to ban or not ban as she sees fit. I should have made my argument based on the fact that her actions are her own decision and not subject to judgmental, self-appointed gatekeepers of the "liberal community." Unless, the OP requested your approval to identify as a liberal, you shouldn't assume she really cares whether or not you give it.

Further your disingenuous and probably intentional misinterpretation of what @NoPlanetB and I posted really demonstrated your integrity.

@JimG of course the OP has such a right. I haven’t said one thing about the OP. You are trying to divert the issue.

And besides that you totally misunderstand what I wrote. I do not identify as a liberal. There are a huge number of people on this forum who champion liberalism but when it comes to action all they know how to do is demonize, stereotype and attempt to shut down anyone with whom they disagree.

If a guy says he is lonely, unhappy, and jealous of lesbians, rather than offering support and counsel they rush in with fangs bared, making hypercritical and racist personal attacks. These “liberals” fancy themselves the great protectors of victims and banishers of the evil suppressors. It is 100% ego and has nothing to do with true liberalism.

@WilliamFleming The problem with that is you seem to be deciding how a liberal should act. For what it's worth, I don't consider myself a liberal either, but most conservatives might. Anyway, liberals are a pretty diverse lot. You won't find the hive mind that seems to exist with other political ideologies. I know liberals who are strongly pro-life, pro-second amendment, or who lean towards capitalism.

Liberals and those with liberal leanings tend to be independent thinkers. If I misunderstood you it's because of this sentence in your reply to the OP: "I’d think that someone with truly liberal characteristics would have engaged in conversation.l" I don't know why a liberal would feel obligated to engage in conversation with just some random guy on the internet. I don't think her choice to ban anyone makes her any less liberal.

@JimG You are probably right and I wash my hands of the whole affair.

I don't do it in Facebook and kind of want this to be a safe space. Just tired of stupidity and don't need more of it in my life

@GreatNani I don't really use facebook except to stay in touch with folks I know or to keep up with local goings on. I don't block folks just because they disagree with me. It has to be something like the folks you blocked. Female bashing, male bashing, gay bashing, trump lovers, and gun nuts will get blocked without a thought.

I didnt reply to them and then thought , nah, I don't need that crap in my life just don't need to see it.

I often feel I'm the only contact with reality they have.

@BitFlipper Yes, there is that.

I think you pegged him.

I didn't see the homophobic post.

@Stephanie99 I wish I hadn't seen it.

@KJThomas That bad, he?

Yeah, I was shamed by someone for blocking people. The ones I blocked were relentlessly sending unwanted sexual IM’s. But if I/you want to block people to avoid negativity or stupidity, that’s A-Ok in my opinion

@Marcie1974 In what universe should one be expected to tolerate sexual harassment? Tell the person that shamed you to f%ck off!

@Marcie1974 I'm sorry that you were shamed. It's your own business how you want to handle your experience here.

I hope I haven't made you feel shamed by saying that I haven't blocked anyone. It's an individual choice.

@Stephanie99 you haven’t that I recall. This was quite a while ago, well over a year. I’m all for hearing different opinions and learning from others. But there are also toxic people I just don’t want to have to see or read their comments

@Marcie1974 its clean simple and easy. i don't need anymore bullshit than life throws at me, thats not why im on here xx

@Marcie1974 fuck being shamed. block them motherfuckers too my love xx

@OwlInASack its a thought but just easier too block

@MizJ don't tolerate any shit xx

@LeighShelton Women deal with a lot more BS such as being sent unsolicited d&ck pics and very crude messages.

@MizJ i know it makes me ashamed to be a man really it does .

@OwlInASack i stand by my moral code and actually am happy to be proved wrong but i can't stand rude fuckers or people telling me what i should or shouldnt do. its my freedem of my choice.woman do get the shit end of the stick for sure and its so wrong.

@OwlInASack i block them too lol

I know right?

So true. He reminded me of my ex.

Total ass.

That's for sure.

Thank you! I generally do not block. I am realizing that my capacity for idiots has been greatly reduced due to stress in my own life and so I blocked quickly today. Sigh....

@GreatNani Yes. I walked away because I have too many things to handle for the past week or so including my father's passing and my going away to attend the funeral. I don't need to deal with idiots.

@graceylou my condolences on your dads passing. I hope you are able to find some peace.

I don't usually, as it could be a one time thing but these two posts really bothered me. So blocked! Neither seemed to have anything to offer in terms of discourse. Just obnoxious comments.

I am sure you aren't missing anything!

That's true. I can't hear your point of view if you present it offensively. But most people do not understand that.

@OwlInASack i never saw the other one. so do you remember incel guy's name well enough to see if he blocked you, or to tell me so i can see if he blocked me? it doesn't matter, it won't change my life, but i am curious! it was redd something i think.

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@OwlInASack that means it's not that he blocked me but that he actually deleted the post. that makes sense. he responded angrily at people for criticizing him, saying, wait, i copied it for a friend, so i can quote him exactly: "If you don't agree with what I vent or feel? MOVE ON!" and "I'm not gonna explain shit to anyone on here cause I don't have to. Believe what you want to believe! I don't care! But I will vent how I feel regardless of what you say or think." so if he had blocked everyone who responded negatively it wouldn't just be me, but rather a whole BUNCH of folks, and it was probably easier for him to delete the post -- which probably made him even madder, and he BEGAN mad lol

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I can't find my comment either. I think the post has been deleted.

@OwlInASack do you need me to paste his original post here for all to see? i can, you know!

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@OwlInASack i wanted to show it to a friend who isn't a member so i copied it, thinking, this guy is gonna block me soon, i'd better copy stuff i wanna show her NOW. and he did delete the post, so lucky me! here is his post:

"I really wish I could express how I really feel. But I will say that I hate God so much. How can a Lesbian walk around with a wife and I'm a good man and don't even have a girlfriend? A lot of fake shit going on."

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@OwlInASack he deleted the post before i could copy my first response to it for my friend, but i did manage to copy my response to his whining about how people should just move on if they didn't agree with him. this is what i said to him:

"if you don't want comments, don't post! move on indeed. if you post, you can't control whether people agree with you or not. you put it out there and then people respond. if you put out shit (which you have done) then people are likely to say "hey, that's shit." too bad if you don't like it. if you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen! and by the way, no one REALLY wants you to explain your shit. you have made yourself perfectly clear. you think of women as "tail" and as things to own, and you're jealous of those who own us when you can't own anyone. oh boo HOO."

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@OwlInASack )

it's sort of like the people on your friends list who post something with which you disagree, and it shows up on your page, because, well, that's how facebook works, and you respond, politely perhaps but still in disagreement, and those people get SO mad and say "i can post whatever i want on my page, and if you don't like it, scroll past it!" like... first of nall, it's not just your page. it shows up on my page too. second of all, if you don't want comments, why are you posting publicly? and third of all, you felt free to comment on MY posts, because everything you see is on YOUR page. i didn't go to your page to see this. it came to MY page. everyone's in their own little world and everything is about them!

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Trying to remove negativity from my life. Rarely block or report but these two just hit a nerve I guess.

blocking people doesn't stop them from having their opinions. i don't see why if they are, for example, racist or homophobic, i should have to continue to see them. they do not have to have their opinions in my eyes every minute of the day. i have freedom of attention just as they have freedom of speech.

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@genessa agree completely

@genessa I like to call them on their crap....educational for any readers of the thread, and someday might make one of them think!

@AnneWimsey it almost never works to make them think, but it can influence those who innocently take things at face value (for example, with this guy, thinking, oh gee, he's lonely!) and open their eyes. so yes, calling them on their crap is useful even if they never do see it themselves.

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