With sunglasses probably wrinkles or eye-bags!

@Merseyman1 In mine, I was wearing shade s because I was outside in the sun. I've worn contacts and/or glasses since I was 3, so it just never phased me before. This is only the 2nd online site I've ever built a profile for, so I guess this post is providing me with tips for better photos?

Policeman? I'm liable to think bachelorette party..

Exactly how I feel, especially after my last partner looking for co dependence. I work full time I don’t have time for caring for a grown man too!

You've elimated everyone I've ever dated

I should be perfect for you then, IF I was willing to give up MY freedom.

@Storm1752 Exactly.

May be a good temp studio!

IKR?! Even videos are done in cars. What is up with that?
I don't think I've ever gotten into my car, checked the rearview and thought, "Ooh! I'm lookin' fine! Gotta take me a pic!"

I tend to wonder if they’re not really single if they post a car selfie. At this stage I don’t care if I get it wrong, I’d rather err on the side of caution. Plus if you were serious surely you’d make the time to take a nice picture somewhere else?

Yes, I feel the same

I’m not sure if it’s the same for women, I hate photos too. For my dating selfie I imagined meeting someone that I really liked.

I'm surprised that isn't a profile question, actually...

@LisaFultonave some sites have it in their criteria but answering is optional. I've seen lots of guys say they're nonsmokers, but they have a cigar hanging out of their faces in a pic.

Well they can keep them! And so can you.

@girlwithsmiles I can't stop smiling

My first wife was/is also Bi-polar and also refused any help. She said all the doctors wanted was to get into her pants (we were part of a military community in Europe). 5 years into the marriage she had her first affair and had 2 more. Once her clearance got taken away because of one of her episodes. She went to a regular medical doctor and he said she was OK so she got her clearance back (crazy). At onetime I thought why not a doctor getting into her pants seems like others (they were all high ranking officers) were. Mental illness is harder to deal with than physical.

@JackPedigo I'd readily agree. Mental illness is, at least for my temperment, more difficult. Particularly if personality characteristics vary dramatically, or impede healthy communication.

@LisaFultonave Absolutely, and communication is the key to any healthy relationship.

Oh yes, and shirtless. That puts me off, especially if it’s a selfie taken laying on a bed!

I didn't understand a word of that? Singlets? Bears?

@PondartIncbendog Singlet-British for undershirt, either tee or (usually) wife beater.

@girlwithsmiles no clothes, no contact. Period!

They’re all yours

If men could fish from their cars they would be in heaven.

Zzz start a post of your own, what part of, ‘this one is for the ladies’ don’t you get?
It’s one thing to be the first one to comment fishing for complements, but I don’t want your sexist bullshit on this post. Move along.

@girlwithsmiles Oh insulting men, which you did with obvious relish, is one thing. But when men fire back, it's sexist bullshit...
I see.
I will say the women here are of a much higher caliber, overall, than those on your typical "dating site." Probably because this isn't "really" a dating site. Not to me, anyway.

@Storm1752 see comment above to Spinler. I’m not insulting men, I’m discussing what women find attractive or not in a photo on an online dating site. You could read and educate yourself, but you chose to jump to another man’s defence when you see him get challenged.
I’m pretty sure GI can answer for himself... in fact he did so, also above.
Wow this post is hard work! Lols.

@MichaelSpinler Please, write your own post, this is about how women perceive men’s photos. Game playing is a different subject again. Perhaps yourself @GIjeff04 and @storm1752 can start one, you all seem to have your own agenda on this post.

@girlwithsmiles sorry. I thought I was answering the post with what I thought was relevant anecdotal experience. Obviously it was a generalization. I certainly have met amazing people from online but they are few and far between and I'm referring to the pay-for dating sites. Not this site. I saw gals griping about guys and guys can gripe about gals, it seemed reasonable at the time. Sorry to cause any consternation. Hope you have a great weekend

@MichaelSpinler I’m not man bashing and and not sexist. The genders perceive things differently, yes it’s a spectrum and not an absolute. This is the first post I’ve ever made that has been gender specific... and will probably be the last due to the nightmare comments.
@GIjeff04 I’m sorry you got conned into one of those paid sites, some do string you along to get your money and are not a true reflection of dating as the women get paid to post. Unless you’re talking eharmony; that’s legit

@MichaelSpinler assumptions, assumptions and an inability to converse about the topic at hand. Good evening.

@girlwithsmiles this motherfucker honestly went and accused you and this post of man-bashing and being sexist... yeesh sounds like an incel! Yikes! I guess the OP had to specifically state this is about this demographic of men, NOT ALL MEN! NOT ALL MEN! NOT ALL MEN! And yes multiple times in caps locks because the notallmen brigade are kinda slow and do not catch it if you say it once in lowercase letters... trust me I've tried. xD

The beer is warm

@Storm1752 I agree with the bad job interview statement.

You get what you expect in life, generally...just sayin'

Well stated and correct.

I’m overweight, does that mean I don’t deserve to date?

@Marcie1974 No, of course not.
I'm an abnormal person and talk funny. How about me? Fixed income, asocial, reclusive...any takers?
Once you get past the horribly bad first impression, my true magnificence becomes apparent, but by then she's gone, baby, gone!
(Did I mention my hilarious but all-but-impenetrable sense of humor?)

@Storm1752 I was specifically referring to you saying:

“ The "ladies" were for the most part the biggest collection of losers I ever saw: ugly, overweight, ignorant, you name it. ”

Makes it sound like you think overweight women are losers.

@Marcie1974 I was ranting, reacting angrily.
I've been thinking a lot about this today, and my considered opinion we ALL have our "ideal" in mind; unfortunately our ideal is probably also everybody else's in our "subculture," AS WELL AS in the dominant culture.
In the culture at large, why do the rich men always have the most beautiful women? Because women want rich men, and men want beautiful women? It would certainly seem so!
In OUR group, it may be incrementally different. I believe it is.
Our overall opinions on the fundamentally BASIC issues of life take a more central role. It's not as blatant a sell-out with us, as it is on meat-market sites like POF, where the quid pro quo is nakedly obvious.
BUT, things such as physical attractiveness, intelligence, financial stability, etc., etc., are still important.
I'd say that's fair.
I'd have thought our choices are more enlightened, but the basic, nuts-and-bolts realities are the same.
To the original question, maybe that's why a lot of men don't CARE about their physical appearance? Maybe they know it's irrelevant; they've always been successful looking like slobs, why change? Maybe the well-groomed guys are just telegraphing their shortcomings!

There all about money? Do you mean they're? And if so, do you mean women?

@Cutiebeauty not women but the sites xx

@LeighShelton haha okay

I do know someone who worked for a paid site for men, it was called something like bored housewife’s and she was paid to string men along. But I know they’re not all like that, my old bosses daughter met her husband online. For me the paid sites were no better/ worse than the free ones though. Pictures included!

@girlwithsmiles your right and even if they are honest you don't know about the individuels on them

As long as the man keeps his shirt on for the dang picture, I wouldn't mind seeing a dead fish.