because they're secretly afraid dicks are delicious- Joe Rogan

I just ask a person who believes this crap when they decided to be Heterosexual or straight? They usually get a puzzled look on their face and tell me they were born that way. That is when I tell them so then the gay person was “born the way they were too”. They usually don’t have anything more to say to me.

The Hebrew/Christian/Muslim God has always had an issue with sex. As late as a century or so ago, the only legitimate reason for sex was producing babies. In early 20th century America, a woman could receive a reputation as a "loose woman" if she allowed her husband to have sex with her too often or if she admitted to enjoying sex with her husband. Good Christian womem just didn't do sex unless she wanted a baby. Anyone who wants sex for enjoyment or pleasure, had something wrong with them.

Since gay sex doesn't produce babies, it must be lustful only and therefore a sin. Christians also claim that homosexuality is unnatural because it doesn't produce babies - never mind that hundreds and hundreds of animal species engage in same sex sexual behaviors including penetration. A few species have been documented to form long term same sex partnering which pair up for life. In the case of some bird species, a same sex pair has been observed to steal eggs from neighboring opposite sex pairs. Together, they incubate and rear the young just as any opposite sex pair.

In terms of Christians insisting that being gay is a choice, they must believe that humans can only choose to sin. If not, then a significant part of their belief system falls apart. Individuals must be able to choose not to sin. Without choice, their God is unjust having created individuals who are predisposed to sin and do not choose it. If their God is not just, then their faith is moot.

You've gotta remember that these are just simple people. The people of the land. The common clay of the new west.

You know....morons.

Because they need and excuse for their fear. The most ardent anti-gay ones, I suspect, are closet homosexuals themselves. Can't prove it, of course, but that's My opinion.

I attribute it to ignorance. Many who are homophobic are racists as well. Agree/Disagree?

Well, considering christians have been dragged kicking and screaming to this point of morality where they no longer stone women for not being a virgin on the night of their wedding, thinking slavery is okay, and way too many other abhorrent behaviors to list briefly; they are just grasping at straws now. They almost have nothing left to control. So they hold on with their fingertips the last few ideas they believe they can publicly get away with, like homosexuality and women's reproductive rights. All under the guise of "morality".

So they are triggered by their loss of ground and constantly act like victims and say that their religion is under attack, when the actual reality is that they are not victims of ANYTHING. Noone is stepping on their toes, we are merely trying to get them off of everyone elses toes. They can go believe whatever ridiculous bullshit they want. They can also keep that shit to themselves and out of our public sphere.

To paraphrase a Christopher Hitchens quote " I am perfectly happy for people to have these toys, but they will not insist I play with them too."

The worst homophobes are closet cases who want to overcompensate.

The answer to your question, y believe, is that you are trying to use reason to solve this riddle, while the riddle is the product of irrational thinking. Ignorant frightened rigid-thinking people do not react to reason. And of course, their god is exactly the way they want it to be. In fact, if there is anything in their bible with which they don’t agree, they just ignore it and read another part of the bible that contradicts what they are ignoring and says what they want to read. And of course, the gods are created by their worshipers. You just have to read Deuteronomy I to clearly see how that god was created by men.

Christians tell you flat out that god did not create Adam and Steve. Since they believe man and woman are to procreate and "replenish the earth" they automatically understand that this cannot happen when people are gay. If you are homosexual you are going against the teachings of their book so being gay must therefore be a choice you have made. It makes sense to them but they fail to see that biblical homosexuality only deals with men. This is because women are actually considered property. The bible never deals with lesbianism.

Wrong as they are, they think gay is a choice and Mike Pence and friends will always want to "pray away the gay." Many even think that demon spirits made you gay. Trying to pray away this gay is no different to them than praying that the playboy male who married Susie will be faithful to only her now and stop going with all the other women. If this is a little trucked up it's because their book cannot be wrong and neither can their god.

Any one who think this has no idea about the diversity of any species. There is no white or black, no pure race, we all have the DNA given us by the first humans. Also there is no male or female in a pure sense. We are all participating in what we are given by Nature and Nature does not work with absolutes. Everything is a mixture, the pure die out to be replaced by something that responds better to what Nature needs. We all have the possibility for everything and it is our manner of being in the world as diverse creatures that assures our existence.

The poison-trap they have set for themselves is that someone being gay cannot be God's doing. Therefore they have to pretend that it's the decision of an individual so that they can be punished and pushed into feeling guilt and shame, even though a moment's introspection shows that to be a ridiculous notion. This is the split-personality double-think of their crazy superstition.

Because many of the male leaders have chosen to be straight when they're really gay.

It also appeals to men who feel any sort of feminity makes them appear weak and they are horrified at the thought that a male homosexual might be attracted to them. Of course we all know that the Christian religion is basically patriarchal and inforcing masculine standards helps maintain that power.

Like many things there's lots of different reasons for lots of different people. A woman I respect very much said that in some instances homosexuality is a choice But most of the time it is a fact of birth. I was engaged to a guy in college that certainly appeared to be very heterosexual and when I broke up with him he had another girlfriend. After that he moved to San Francisco and became gay.

My granddaughter informed me that most females are on a spectrum from 1 to 5 and 1 or 5 which I can't remember means you are very very heterosexual and the other extreme is you like someone of the same sex. I know several lesbian couples that married men in their youth and didn't change their lifestyle until their fifties or even sixties.

I've often wondered whether all of the guys who enjoy watching 2 women make love also enjoy watching two guys make love.

I do not think homosexuality is a choice; it is a normal variant of human sexuality. We do not choose who we are attracted to, or not. I always say-- if we were to find a society, population, WITHOUT homosexuality--that would be abnormal. That said, even if it were a choice, how does it cause anyone any harm. The only harm it causes is in people's narrow, brainwashed, minds.

The dogma in Judeo/Christianity warns of dire consequences, so has managed to create fear. Fear is an excellent start fro controlling others. As sexuality is a spectrum, most people have some degree of attraction to others who share their sexuality. Within the context of dogma, people become afraid of themselves. I think when they enounter sexuality it provokes fear. It appears to Xians to be a choice. I encountered this explananation during a a LGBT workshop at a national convention of mental health counselors.

Christianity is not interested in evolving. Love is love attraction is attraction. It’s a pity that christianity is
this way because they promote hatred and division.
They are missing out on extraordinary humans.

I once saw someone ask a homophobe something and now I ask homophobes the same thing: at what age did you CHOOSE to be straight? Taking it a step further, if it is all a choice, can you CHOOSE to be gay for a day, week, etc. and then go back to being straight? According to their logic, they should be able to do so easily since it is all a matter of "choice" after all. Morons

Does it really matter? If you are asking whether it is a choice or whether you are born with the tendency, you've missed the boat.

Even if it were a choice and had no biological basis, homosexual people aren't inherently hurting people by being homosexual. The same standards apply. As long as they aren't forcing themselves on anyone else, it's none of anyone else's business.

At the time Christianity was invented, people lived in a dog-eat-dog world. Luckily, we'll never have to deal with that! The theory was that humans were made in the image of God so every single person had a spark of that divinity in them and should be treated as such. That was revolutionary. How we got from this notion of universal love to the likes of Westboro Baptist Church would be an interesting history.

Secret longings ?

Stupidity is rampant with religious fanatics.

In my very unqualified opinion; it's brainwashing and tendencies by certain unscrupulous leaders to consolidate their power by uniting their followers against a common threat. Not having the courage to face a real threat, they choose a "moral threat" and due to their cowardice they pick an easy target, a small group which wields little power in reality and with whom most people won't identify.

Given a lot of revelations that have come out over the years about homophobic christian leaders, it seems the choose the LGBTQ community because of their inability to act on their own secret desires.

As a straight man, I try to speak out against homophobes when they spout of and demonstrate that not all of us are eager to persecute someone over an insignificant difference.

As far as homosexuality being a choice, when you hear anyone say they believe it is, ask them when they chose to be straight. I don't remember ever waking up on day and thinking, 'Okay, I'm going to like girls.'

I am inclined to believe that homosexuality is genetic in origin. I do not see why a person would simply choose the option knowing the difficulties it could well produce in dealing with others.

They need it to be a choice. If it's biological it weakens their arguments against evolution.

You can choose how to behave, but in most of cases it will bring only pain to go so much against your feelings...