So far we are talking leaked papers of unknown provenance. It's not like there aren't governments around the world who might want to promulgate a story like this. One should be especially wary of stories that would be difficult or impossible to disprove. So no, no "truth" has come out.

Information revealed by a former member of the tRrump administration. BIG RED FLAG. When was the last time anyone from the tRump administration said anything that was truthful.

There is a line in this article that I have trouble with: "Papers, confirmed as genuine by a former member of the Trump administration..." I'm not sure what it would take for me to believe it at this point.

According to the article, Drastic, the group whom the article credits with gathering the information, is described by Wikipedia as about two dozen amateur sleuths. Not as the group of world wide "scientists" as the article claims.

What bothers me about this article is that it is very difficult to confirm any of the claims, and the claims are just too close to the conspiracy theories. It actually looks like someone took the conspiracy theories and wrote an article specifically to try to validate them.

I am sorry, but "former Trump officials" helped propagate the conspiracy theories having to do with the idea of the virus being created in a lab. And considering all the Trump people who have been indicted on various charges, I would not consider them to be good sources to confirm the authenticity of the papers. Especially since the article just says "former Trump officials", but fails to name who they are.

This article reads like a propaganda piece, making lots of claims and not providing enough information for readers to be able to validate those claims.

A second ( or third or more) hand report from an anonymous source. Nicki Minaj's cousins friend is more credible.

Bat Cave?! Cleavage?!
You have my attention.

“Papers, confirmed as genuine by a former member of the trump administration…….. nothing but more bullshit.

I'll need to see this reported by a few better-known and respected news sources before I buy into it.

"They also planned to create chimeric viruses, genetically enhanced to infect humans more easily," Doesn't this contradict the intent stated in the first sentance of the article?

Has the sound of trump's bs, who can trust Trump I only hire the best bs?

If this supposed team requested funding for such a project from Darpa, why didn't the agency release this information themselves more than a year ago?

The whole thing seems fishy to me (of course, the Telegraph is fishwrap, so....).

Leave the bats alone & the virus won't contact humanity. People are invading their habitat and exposing themselves to a nocturnal creature which we can avoid entirely. Bush meat, unsanitary conditions, exposure to an intermediary agricultural beast all involve human exposure. Stay away from the source.

Ohferpetessake.......I hope you enjoy your fantasies, I don't.

Not sure about the veracity of both yahoo news and a drumpf lackey. Will wait to see what plays out from this because if they did it and Covid spread from that there is going to be a backlash.

According to a great video on PBS about Bats, they already have the Covid variety and several others. No need to introduce something they already have and have managed to do very well even with these viruses. We're the ones that need inoculating.

I understand the intent, which was good -if this info is accurate-. They never actually did it, according to the article. They submitted a proposal requesting permission to do it and were denied. The corona virus in Wuhan bats was identified as a risk to humans more than a decade ago, so this research and the subsequent proposal aren’t out of left field.

Isn't the first sentance problematic as well? How do enhanced viruses innoculate bats? Everything was "gain of function". I do understand the proposals were rejected on being judged to be "gof", but the way it is described here I see nothing that makes it sound beneficial. It's true I do not understand the smaller exact mechanisms of science that would have been at play. But introducing strains that are MORE infectious sounds like playing with fire.

What was the murdered Covid researcher studying specifically in PA? My quess? Human specific cleavage protein in the virus.

Edited and adding this from Uni bio of him : "model many complex processes, including immune signaling events, apoptotic and ferroptotic cell death, autophagy, redox lipid programming, response to radiation and radiation therapy, systems (poly)pharmacological treatments" These were his specific areas of study.

Is it a conspiracy theory to suggest the FBI damn well SHOULD have been involved in the investigation of the murder of a researcher on verge of major breakthrough of illness that has killed 4.5 million people globally, and NOT just the local police?

A lot of this documentation is available to read online with regard to what is referenced in the above article. It's true I don't understand it all. My opinion on all of this may change at some point.

Probably remains to be seen yet, just how much “truth” there is to this leak......
Having said that, this sure sounds more likely than all the previous conspiracies being offered up?!

I hope this stunt doesn't backfire on them. This could go really bad.

Truly, this is bat shit crazy!!! Bats have scary aggressive immune systems. Unfortunately that makes them reservoirs of all kinds of scary viruses including rabies!!

Imagine if they were playing around with a more communicable form of rabies!

So now the Chinese are doing it and it does not matter if it could infect their own people. Hell, no, because they have so damned many of them. Yes, you got it. The virus came from a lab and it is a weapon. Ask yourself what has been gained if you have this knowledge. But wait! What about Obama and weapons development? Trump wants you to go with that one coz it is all Obama and the Dems fault. You end up just as stupid if not more so. You start believing that two American political parties are in actual control of a worldwide pandemic and have been from the start. But it was supposed to go away once Trump was out of office. It was controlled by cell phones. Now let's get real weird and ask what it was all about 100 years ago. Who engineered that one?

...and the US. if you read the article. If it's true, that is.