I expected some dumb responses from celebrities and boy, they don’t disappoint. To start off with, Pedro Pascal posted a tweet saying Anthony Huber and Jacob Rosenbaum were murdered, Rest In Peace. Those two nimrods were not murdered; they were killed in self-defense. Their pictures were below the tweet. Did he even watch the videos of the incident? Not to be outdone, Mark Ruffalo moronically tweeted about black lives and to mourn the loss of Anthony and JoJo. Really? What does the killings of Huber and Rosenbaum have to do with black lives? Those two pinheads were white. Huber was a wife-beater and Rosenbaum anally raped a kid. Fuck them, glad they are dead.
Lastly, Rage Against the Machine, who should be rebranded as Rage on Behalf of the Machine, claimed without evidence that Huber and Rosenbaum were protesting on behalf of black lives. Any evidence for that? Also, the shit for brains from rage claims that Kyle used his whiteness to kill those fighting against oppression. Again, what does a white kid shooting three white men have to do with race? Also, how was Rittenhouse oppressing anyone? Tom Morello, guitarist for the irrelevant jackasses, put the icing on the shit take by claiming that the courts upheld white supremacy. For a band that claims that they are the counterculture, they sure do suck the cock of the establishment by regurgitating the same bullshit and lies.
To close, seems like critical thinking has went out the window. Instead of looking at the evidence, why not just parrot regressive left talking points? Seems like celebrities, especially progressive celebrities, are really fucking stupid. All that money and a bully pulpit but no almonds to activate. Twitter brings out the dumbest in all of them.
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Feel free to reply to any comment by clicking the "Reply" button.I stopped reading your post after the first paragraph. That was enough, I did read all the comments and your replies. How horrible it must be to be you. You and your kind have coated the bottom of the barrel with a putrid scum that stinks all the way to Miralago,. Shut up and listen till you learn how to talk.
Casey07
Level 7
Dec 2, 2021
2
It is Mar-A-Lago. If you are going to insult someone, clod, do it right. Slink back to your cucked existence and let the big boys handle the insults.
Before even reading the comments, I can tell this is not going to go well... The people on this site trend strongly politically left, so probably agree with the people you are badmouthing. <shrug> Well, on to the entertaining comments.
At a basic level, I agree the verdict was the correct one, but this is simply a grenade lobbed into the problem...
echosam
Level 6
Dec 1, 2021
2
Exactly the reason that I mad the post, to stir the pot. Yeah, you are right; this site is a progressive cesspool
It's very sad this should even have to be discussed. In my opinion Rittenhouse should have been given a long prison term if only to discourage others from doing the same.
The love affair with guns and the paranoia it causes is crazy and looking from outside of the USA I have to shake my head in disbelief.
I grew up with "Western" films where the gun was law but even as a kid I realised that it was make belief. A large proportion of the US population appear to think it was real and the world is like that.
Minnesota is probably one of the safer states but look at the comparison with Scotland which has an almost identical population
Firearm deaths in 2017 Minnesota ---- 465
Scotland------41 (includes non fatal wounding )
Moravian
Level 8
Dec 1, 2021
1
Thank goodness that an anti-gun twat like you does not live in the US. What should Rittenhouse be sent to jail for? He acted in sled-defense but if you are that stupid to think that he committed a crime, you are too stupid beyond words
@Heavykevy1985 Thank you for those kind words. This anti gun twat has friends and family in the USA so I have a vested interest. I have just been reading about the pro gun parents of the latest school shooter who let their disturbed 15 year old son have access to a semi automatic hand gun to shoot and kill 4 of his school mates and wound another 14. The mother wrote an open letter to Trump praising his stand on gun ownership. The parents are likely to be charged as well. Good, the are obviously too stupid to raise children
@Moravian what does this have to do with Rittenhouse? Try to stay on topic there, gramps
@Heavykevy1985 Take your head out of your ass and maybe you would see.
From what I see, your response to every opposing viewpoint seems to be insulting the individual, not debating their point. Nevertheless;
"What does the killing of Huber and Rosenbaum have to do with black lives..." Perhaps the fact that they were there marching in support of BLM, and Rittenhouse specifically turned up to "protect" people (who never asked him for his protection, but pass that by) from what he assumed were violent rioters who belonged to BLM? Perhaps that the entire incident was during a Black Lives Matter protest?
Carrying a rifle out in the woods makes perfect sense, because mostly people are hunting when they do that. Who was Kyle Rittenhouse and his friends hunting on the streets of Kenosha? Carrying a rifle with the capacity to penetrate through your target and kill anyone who happens to get in the way, in an urban setting, is the height of recklessness. They were not there with the intent of "protecting" anybody; the message was intimidation. Count up how many protesters were openly carrying firearms. That was the message; "We have guns and you don't."
Self-defense is one thing when you're going about your ordinary business. It's another when you have gone out of your way to seek a dangerous situation. If I have to defend myself with my concealed handgun because I went for a walk at midnight down every dark alley I could find, until someone tried to mug me, that would not be self-defense; that would be "looking for trouble". That's exactly what Kyle Rittenhouse did. He was wrong from the word go. He is not law enforcement nor private security. He had no business taking a rifle to a different state, specifically planning to confront protesters. Nothing, not even his 2nd Amendment rights, will make me believe otherwise. Those rights also carry a corresponding responsibility. He utterly failed to conduct himself responsibly. These were not justified shootings because he had no justification to be in that situation with that rifle to begin with.
Okay, let the name-calling commence.
Paul4747
Level 8
Dec 1, 2021
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No namecalling from me, just an observation. No one in this saga was virtuous. What idiot goes to chase down someone armed with an assault rifle? Of course a 17 year old (or most people) would have panicked. So I understand why Rittenhouse could have responded with deadly force. But his crime, excused by this court, was in setting up the situation in the first place. I don't fault the jury so much as the charges and the specific laws in question. Wisconsin needs much more sanity in its laws pertaining to weapons. And they sure aren't alone in this.
Caveat. Rittenhouse murdered that guy whom he incapacitated with one shot but then chose to shoot several more times--and in the back. Flat out murder.
@MikeInBatonRouge I agree it was a collision of extremely bad choices on everyone's part.
Where’s your evidence that they were even marching for BLM, which is not saying much because BLM has caused mayhem everywhere they went. Question still remains unanswered: how does Rittenhouse, who is white shooting three other white guys ties into anything racial? Rittenhouse retreated and said “Friendly” over and over again and those three POS chased after him and tried to kill. If you did not have riots, Rittenhouse would not need a gun. Kenosha is only 20 minutes away from Antioch. Not that big of a stretch, doofus. Rittenhouse was there cleaning graffiti and administering first aid. Looking for trouble? Where’s your evidence, pinhead? To sum it up, not name- calling when it is an accurate descriptor of ideologues like you.
@MikeInBatonRouge what crime? He killed them in self-defense. Watch the video, bozo. Until you are in Rittenhouse’s shoes Mr. Armchair Quarterback, you do not know shit from Shinola you fucking mong
@Heavykevy1985 I expected no less. Your incoherent and irrelevant insults do nothing to back your case.
@Heavykevy1985 if I'm bozo, you're an idiot. I did watch the video, and you are 't even actually responding to what I wrote, rather, what you project into what I wrote.
Note to everybody who has been reacting or commenting in response to my comments here, I blocked this nimrod Heavykevy, so I can't read your reactions or comments. If you want to share with me about it, PM me, since I can't read anything from this thread or the post without unblocking him. Tom
TomMcGiverin
Level 8
Nov 30, 2021
2
On a site supposedly full of skeptics and critical thinkers, it amazes me how many people here are so opinionated on a case where they don't even know the facts. There are at least 6 videos from that night that show this is beyond a doubt self defense. Most of these people are the type that claim to be progressives but support corporate democrats over actual progressives, these people tout their party line even if they are being lead into a fire. When it comes to facts and evidence, they only care if it supports their world view.
Tejas
Level 8
Nov 30, 2021
0
I wonder did the judge say to the state proscecutor, 'my mind is made up! Do not confuse me with the evidence.'
Nobody would deny that anyone has a right to defend himself or herself when there is an imminent threat to his or her life.
Who requested Kyle Rittenhouse and others who were armed with assault rifles to defend their business properties? Where is the evidence to support such a claim?
The fact that local police officers gave the armed men bottles of water to drink would seem to indicate that they condoned what took happened while they took a back seat. Correct me if I got it wrong but there seems to have been a lack of action on the part of law enforement officers at the scene, which, may be viewed as gross negligence and dereliction of duty on their part.
ASTRALMAX
Level 8
Nov 30, 2021
3
The second amendment guarantees people like Rittenhouse the ability to carry a long rifle around with him. He defended himself, period.
@Heavykevy1985 True, however, he was not the only one there that was armed. Why did so many armed men decide go there? Surely, is is not the task of law enforcement officers or your National Guard to maintain law and order? If someone went there to remove graffiti or administer first aid why would he need a rifle to carry out such tasks?
Doubtless, it may be considered foolish to attempt to take a rifle from someone. It seems to me that all parties in the situation viewed each other as posing a serious threat.
Kyle Rittenhouse went to the demonstration specifically with the hopes of getting to shoot somebody under the motivation of protecting other people's property. He got his wish.
@Toonman how do you know that? Now you are arguing in bad faith. Not a mind reader, dumbo
, @ASTRALMAX no, second amendment deals with citizen militias. The Minutemen were made up of volunteers in a town. Yes, because there were violent riots. If he did not have that rifle, he would have been killed. Those three idiots were asking for trouble. Kyle retreated and they followed. They got their just desserts.
Your statement makes perfect sense but only in the US of A because in any other First World Country he would have been arrested for just owning an AR-15, let alone wandering through a civilian protest with an automatic weapon.
Even in the USA he would have been arrested or more probably shot while resisting arrest by the police IF he were anything but a privileged white manchild. That's possibly the tie in with BLM, that and the protest where he shoot 3 people, killing two and severely wounding the third, was in fact a protest about racial injustice aka BLM.
SnowyOwl
Level 8
Nov 30, 2021
4
It was not an automatic weapon. Learn the basic facts before you comment your bias and ignorance.
@Tejas PLEASE, the modification from semi-auto to full auto takes a half an hour. Canadians like myself know guns just as well as Americans do, yet surprisingly our gun homicide rate is miniscule by comparison although our gun ownership rate is not that much less.
Any fool can pull a trigger, You Fool.
@SnowyOwl and American civilians own more than 4 times the amount per capita. You don't seem to know much of anything. [en.m.wikipedia.org]
@SnowyOwl the amount of gun deaths here in the US are primarily due to suicides. Data is misleading without context
@SnowyOwl Lots of BS name calling from you here. Saying he is a small weak man, has a small dick, is into beastiality... with male animals...
Do you know Tejas, because you seem be claiming to be quite intimately familier with him? Or, you don't have a legitimate argument so have fallen back to ad hominem like a little bitch.
@echosam Cool your jets, I was just having a little bit of fun with the manchild. He wants to try and justify the shooting of people based upon a bunch of rubbish arguments so I gave him a taste of his own medicine. I don't know him and probably wouldn't want to, everyone is so prickly and it's not even the dread holidays yet.
@echosam, @Tejas I yield the field, you are the bigger man. Now get out there and shoot someone for whatever reason you feel justified in doing so. Just realize that people tend to shoot back and if you have never been shot at, as I have on two separate occasions, then you will find it a blood chilling experience.
@Tejas the fact that you think the automatic-ness of the weapon has any bearing here is comical. There is a lot I don't know about ballistics, but that doesn't make me dishonest or generally ignorant any more than your superior knowledge on the subject makes you a genius or even a good person. Really, get over yourself.
@Tejas what you were doing was attacking someone over an irrelevant detail. Pretending it stems from some obsession with fact vs fiction, in this instance, is not fooling anybody. The controversy in this discussion is about ethics, not semantics. When you try to commandeer the focus as you have done in this thread, it only makes you look evasive and uncomprehending.
@Deb57 I've stated my views on this subject on many posts and not a single person had presented a reasonable argument for their counter beliefs on this issue. I wasn't attacking anything I pointed out a fact then he insulted me for pointing that fact out. Call it whatever you want but facts are not irrelevant.
Wow! you've taken idiocy to a whole new level. Well done.
Secretguy
Level 7
Nov 30, 2021
0
Not an argument
If Kyle Rittenhouse had decided to stay home and play Nintendo games that day, those people would be alive. Whether they deserved to be murdered (yes, MURDERED) or injured is a moot point. They were executed without a trial, so we will never know. The kid had no business being there, and had no business being there with a rifle. He went there with the intent to kill someone and accomplished his mission.
Deb57
Level 8
Nov 30, 2021
8
@Deb57
This 
@TimeOutForMe Trevor Noah does your thinking for you? Rittenhouse is guaranteed by the second amendment to defend himself. Trevor Noah is a moron.
@Heavykevy1985 perhaps you're misidentifying who the real moron is. since you're all about name-calling!
This sums it up quite well.
@Heavykevy1985 your use of name calling and lack of ethics says everything about your character. You think, and convey your thoughts, like a spoiled child. It's clear that you are accusing people of letting others do the thinking for us while being, yourself, heavily influenced by manipulative and dishonest alt-right pundits. This is called "projecting" and you couldn't be more obvious about it. Adulting is a challenge, isn't it, sweetie?
@Deb57 not name-calling. An accurate descriptor of who you really. A dumb bitch like you sticks fingers in her ears and screams “LALALALALA!” despite the overwhelming evidence against your opinion of the case. You are the one saying that Rittenhouse committed murder. Okay dumb cunt, where’s your evidence? Please go suck shit out of Trevor Noah’s ass you easily-led automaton. I enjoy insulting you progressives. You fuckers are special breed of stupid
@TimeOutForMe describing, not name-calling. People like you let Trevor Noah do your thinking for you, prog idiot
@Heavykevy1985 you're the biggest idiot on here pushing your lone views. Go stuff yourself!!!!
You're the one who can't think for yourself. "Your dependence on your truth" rests with "your kind of jury' decision"!
@Heavykevy1985 go demonstrate your Master's in Vulgarism elsewhere, perhaps in your own neighbourhood where you belong!
@Heavykevy1985 no, what you are demonstrating is a personality disorder. This entire post, and your responses to all whose opinions differ from yours, inarguably reflects that. You have issues, boy. Toxic issues.
Most everyone with a microphone makes jackass, useless statements. Just listen to any "news" program, post game interview ......
Where I stand, and how I've talked to my son, same age as Rittenhouse. ( and a fan) is that he is just a kid who made a big mistake. And YOU are not going to entangle yourself in this kind of shit.
He does not disagree with that.
Therefore, my next point, is that the GOP and those that want to elevate him to Hero Status, are in the wrong as well with their reactions.
Kyle Rittenhouse has a lot of years ahead of him to sort this out, deal with it and live with it. The emotional reactors on both sides of this debate should shut off their microphones and step back.
twill
Level 7
Nov 30, 2021
2
My opinion is the same as Pedro Pascal. There was zero reason for Kyle to even have been there and 2 people would be alive today had he of stayed home. No need to reply me. I am done.
DenoPenno
Level 9
Nov 30, 2021
5
The law regarding self defense does not consider whether not not you think he had a reason to be there. I agree he should not have been, but that does not affect one's ability to defend one's self.
What were Rosenbaum's and Huber's reasons to be there?
He has family in Kenosha and his father lives there. He had every right to be there, jackass.
@Heavykevy1985 Yep. Sure looks like he went there to see his father. It also looks like lots of people can be a jackass. Name calling makes you more credible every time.
@DenoPenno not name calling, describing you. If you think that he had no right to cross state lines even though Kenosha and Antioch are only 20 minutes from each other. He works in Kenosha, best friend lives their, and his father lives there too. Age has not gave you any wisdom at all, eh?
@Heavykevy1985 Apparently age did not give his defense attorney any wisdom either. They should have had you on the team for this. 
Why did Kyle's mom only drive him for 10 minutes if she took him half way? Maybe she is on her way to work. IDK On the serious side, how would I know his business?
Wow. Just, wow.
KKGator
Level 9
Nov 29, 2021
2
That your rebuttal?
@Heavykevy1985 No rebuttal. Merely a reaction.
@KKGator I agree with your reaction
You may be a non-believer, but like many on this site, that's all we have in common. It;s clear that you have bought into all the redneck, conservative politics of Mississippi, so I am glad you are where you belong, instead of somewhere civilized or progressive, like the Northeast or the Pacific Northwest. I would rather you live among your kind.
TomMcGiverin
Level 8
Nov 29, 2021
4
The irony of claiming to be a progressive and then advocating segregation. You are such a moron.
Premeditated self defense is also known as first degree murder.
Jurnee
Level 5
Nov 29, 2021
11
No shit. He came there with a military weapon and was looking to shoot someone, that attitude on his part is clear. He is thus responsible for his actions provoking the confrontations that ended in his shooting three people and killing two. And if he's smart, which he isn't, he had better lay low, instead of being a public celeb, because I suspect there are some black and lefty type whites that would like to whack him and become hero celebs for it themselves.
No. Self-defense is not murder, dumbass.
Can you prove that in a court of law, mr. Armchair quarterback? A jury found him not guilty of murder. You are one brainless twat
@Heavykevy1985, in a court of law without a biased judge?
@Heavykevy1985 you seems to have forgotten that "premeditated" qualifier. Premeditated self defense is literally the same thing as first degree murder. Also, a jury finding someone not guilty is not the same thing as innocent. Sit the fuck down and stop watching Fox News.
No it is not. Your understandnig of law simply does not exist.
@Jurnee PLEASE cite any statute, from any State that even uses the terminology "premeditated self defense".
Ryo1:
@Alienbeing, @Jurnee
I did wonder if there was such thing as 'premeditated self-defence". And apparently there is, but it is another term for murder:
Premeditation in the murder context means plan to kill. Laying in wait and using self defense as an excuse to kill when other options haven't been exhausted means murder not premeditated self defense.
[avvo.com]
@Ryo1, @Jurnee Your example is not "premeditated self defense" in the context of a criminal defense, such as @Jurnee implies. Your example, and the example you linked shows one can plan for self defense.
When I asked @Jurnee to provide any statute that cited "premeditated self defense", without even the slightest research, I knew that no such statute existed. Since self defense is a legal defense, it would not matter if it was pre-planned or not, it would still be a defense.
Ryo1:
@Alienbeing Well, all criminal defense attoneys on the linked website seem to say otherwise. They seem to be saying that it does matter if self-defense was planned or not; self-defense is genuinly self-defense only when it takes place spontaneously. One of them even say clearly "No, you can't "premeditate self defense." Using deadly force against another person, with premeditation and deliberation, is first degree murder (or attempted first degree murder, if the person survives)."
I don't have a law degree; I'm not qualified to have a debate on the matter. Meanwhile, you are a retired lawyer. Were you once a criminal defense lawyer?
Premeditated self defense huh? You are really grasping for straws here. So me having a plan if someone breaks in is first degree murder? How about me concealed carrying almost everywhere, am I committing first degree murder if I have to defend myself? You should really think before you make such idiotic comments.
@Jurnee He had no premeditation in killing them, moron. He tried fleeing and they tried killing him. Self-defense, not murder, stupid
@mcgeo52 too close for comfort, that's what!
@Ryo1 Any attorney (I was an Asst. D.A. for the first 4 year of practice, then I left) who says self defense as a defense can only be used if it was not preplanned is a fool.
An excellent example of such foolishness is that most law enforcement officers in the U.S. are armed. That is preplanned self defense. If such preplanning nullified self defense we'd have a real mess wouldn't we?
I'll add that I think you are confuseing terms, and this really is no issue at all.
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