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How do you tell religious people that you're an atheist?

I live in America and am surrounded by Christians.
Whenever I talk about myself to religous people, I want to say ,"I am an atheist". Do you say that? Is there a better way?

Bingogwak 6 Sep 10
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I had a lady ask me if I believed in God and I replied, "Who's God?". The problem as I see it is not the belief in God but the belief that your God only has value if it or the belief in it gives you some undefined superiority over the ones who choose not to believe or believe in a different God.

Quarm Level 6 Aug 24, 2018

If I am asked that irrational question, I parse the stupidity of it all.... What is a gawd ? I ask. Why "believe in doors" when all you have to do is walk in doors never needing door beliefs, because doors exist.....Where are these "gott" things the Germans put on every Nazi belt buckle... ' gott MIT UNS" sounds just like IN gawd WE TRUST.... a fascist mantra to call people to war not peace

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Trump not the most politically savvy man around claimed to be a believer and had his Bible with him on his inauguration day. I could tell by his body language it was a stunt. Believer or not he needed to appeal to a country that does not take well to Atheism. Even non religious people bulk at the idea. Exceptions abound of course and varies State to State. So tred carefully if you don't want to upset them.

Personally if your not willing to lie then your silence is a better option. Its not fair but as an Atheist you must see the world as it is. If you disagree I will not mind. I like disagreement it stimulates my mind but I implore you to only reject this because
you think it is wrong not because you don't like it.

sorry to be clear my point about Trump was that cluessless as he is even he recognised or agreed that America does not take well to Atheism.

McCarthyism is alive and well in USA....Our nation was founded without the gawd sound never once being printed/scribed into the Constitution.... Masons, Atheists, Unitarians and freethinkers like Ethan Allen all wanted a country where religious tests were illegal... thus sayeth Article 6 of 1787 ....the trinitarian garbage of Church of England was repudiated and colonial theocracies were criminalized.....none the less, religion has been a tool to conquer Native Tribes and destroy their natural scientific lifestyles....makes me wanna puke in the face of any criminal theocrat who claims USA is xian or 'judeo-xian" as if anti-semitism never ruled xian communities for 200 years .... now it's popular to murder Palestinians and steal their land because YHWH the alleged bible gawd Jehovah is favored by zionists

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Why would you say you are an atheist unless someone asked you, I am 71 and I have never been asked.

I was lied to as a child to "believe" in Santa, boy Ishtar bunnies laying candy eggs on dogshit lawns and alleged vaginal virgins birthing alleged baby gawds in dirty donkey stables.... I just could not take all those lies looking forward to school in kindergarten to learn science, math and arts....yes, I was told Atheists are rattlesnakes and komnists from Soviet Union but I found my heroic role models in the library and in Disney Science films, Einstein was a great Atheist using his mind not bibles....by age 10 I documented how McCarthyism took over the Boy Scouts comparing my brother's 1949 Scout Handbook and the 1962 version I was told I must buy to become an Eagle Scout.... right there on page 4 was the Pledge of Allegiance printing a gawd into existence that was not there 13 years before....I was proud to be an Atheist and reject the hypocritical believers busy getting baptized as if they were ethically better people for taking a bath in public....Vice President Bush insulted my friend Rob Sherman in the Chicago Hilton Airport press conference when the killer CIA scum said: " I don't know if Atheists can be good citizens, nor patriots, this is one nation under gawd." All Rob asked for American Atheist Press was: " Mr Vice President, as President what will you do for American Atheists ?" 1987 campaign reporters all laughed and censored the news of this bigots insults to millions of Atheist scientists, inventors, Veterans and honest business/community leaders.....Donald Kaul and Molly Ivins broke the censorship months later....Thomas Jefferson was vilified as an "Atheist" by his political opponents, USA has always danced around the secularism flag pole suiting bigots and patriots alike

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“I am an atheist”?

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If and when the topic comes up I find that I am most interested in revealing the fact that I am not Christian so that is what I say. That seems to draw less of a reaction than saying I am agnostic.

OCJoe Level 6 Aug 23, 2018
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If they are strongly religious and I don't want to frighten them, I will refer to myself as a non-beliver rather than an atheist. For some reason it seems to be a more acceptable term.

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I just tell them, I'm not terribly worried about what they think, and if they can't accept it that's on them.

I'm not saying it to people I don't know already, generally only been under certain circumstances,
or unless they ask me directly.

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The last couple I had at the door, I told them I was 100% atheist. They said “oh” looked somewhat scared and walked away.

ZelB Level 3 Aug 20, 2018
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I never volunteer.... if they really push the envelope and want to know then usually all I have to do is to say "you don't want to know". That throw them off and cannot tell if I am joking or what.

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The incredible thing is that they think it all means you know nothing about god. It was my studies that made me a non-believer.

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Just say "I am yet to see compelling evidence for any supernatural entity". Most will dazel at your big words and move on to talking about something else.

If they want to start to convince you, I ask for a set date and time to debate. No one will take you up on it. I think many who claim religion are really on our team and are not at a place where they can embrace it. I am content to let them do as they like.

I don't think you can debate religion with a believer. If they agree to do it, what they are really saying is they will give YOU a chance to suspend disbelief.

@AJ413 You are not wrong, debates are there to help those who are still trying to figure things out. If someone is "sold out" then really it is just banter.

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They ask what church I go to and I say "I don't".. Done

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I don't start by telling anyone I'm an atheist. If a person who doesn't know that I am starts sharing about their beliefs but keeps it brief, I say nothing. If a person shares about their beliefs to the degree that it's obvious they want to keep the topic going, or makes an automatic assumption that I share their beliefs (not uncommon in my neck of the Bible Belt) I enlighten them by saying I am not a believer. For acquaintances who know that I am an atheist, but bring up the subject for more than 10 seconds, I make one attempt to change the subject. If they persist, I leave them to their own company. Life is just too short.

Deb57 Level 8 Aug 16, 2018
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I'm a "devout agnostic", but I never volunteer the fact. I just smile and nod when religious beliefs cross my path.

AJ413 Level 3 Aug 13, 2018
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My mom always taught me it's not the best idea to open with religion, politics, , or sex. if these people know you and are true friends they'll respect what you believe just as much as you respect their beliefs. Be atheist, or whatever you want to be, and proud teach others why you believe what you believe like they teach what they believe. Everything is a two way conversation and in the end you don't need to agree on everything.

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As soon as any conversation turns to "god" etc , I just say, "I'm an atheist" and I usually find that most people are too, so it's pretty easy. I live in British Columbia Canada, and apparently most people here are non religious, so I guess I'm really not that brave LOL

Your fortunate to live somewhere with so many atheist. Here in western Oklahoma where I live I doubt 1% of the population is an open atheist. I’m sure there are quite a few closet atheist, maybe as many as 20%. The religous right is so powerful here most just don’t want to cross them.

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When I was a (paid) construction supervisor for Habitat for Humanity, sometimes people would ask me. I talked about the work, how the ancients believed we should do our best work, even where it doesn't show, because the gods can see in there. But I believed that we should do our best work where it mattered, whether that is concealed inside an electrical box, or outside where it is visible. And I didn't care whether "the gods" can see in there or not.

Sometimes, if someone pressed me one-on-one, I'd admit that I was a "born-again heathen", which threw them because they (briefly) thought I was going to say something else. (To their credit, Habitat never asked me about my "faith" before I was hired. And it was a broad, major-metropolitan chapter of HfH which was non-sectarian and was not affiliated with any specific church. I don't think I could have worked for a specific-church-based group.)

In other contexts, I'm open about being an atheist, though I might say secular humanist first. I have complained that there is no "secular humanist" check-off on Matchdotcom, and if you are on there, you should, too. Sometimes I say, "I'm a Free-thinker, which is an old name for an atheist." "Free-thinker," because the word is so little-known today, seems less threatening to the religious believers. I might speak about freedom of religion, which I do believe in, and I say there is no freedom of religion unless there is freedom FROM religion. Everyone is an atheist regarding other people's gods. (If you're not sure about that, ask a Christian if they believe in Allah, or Thor.)

There is no telling what words might offend people, though. I recently told my sister "I'm not a religious man," which she surely already knew. (She was asking me to participate in a ceremony that I chose not to do so.) Her response was that she hated that word ("religious" ) and didn't want to hear it again (though it surely describes her and the upbringing she is giving her kids). My response was that I had said the same "I'm not a religious man" to our very devout, late grandfather, and he just replied, "I know."

Sorry for running on so long. Thanks for listening. I'm glad to be here.

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I normally don’t share unless i am asked my religion or I feel that the person is open to talking to an Athiest. Some times I tell people I am a humanist, “good without god”. But Athiest has a stigma that makes it hard. Recently I have been telling people I am an Athiest, but it can get awkward. ?

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Naturally they will try and say there is a gawd, I counter with asking what they learned about 1492 in school. After a few seconds the rhyme in 1492 Columbus sailed the ocean blue will pop out. I then explain that in 1492 many people still believed the earth was flat, something we know today to be ridiculous. I then point out that 1492 was only slightly more than 500 hundred years ago. A long time, but not a real long time, and that if people were that naive that recent, just imagine what they would fall for 2000 years ago.
Then there's the whole issue of non-flying birds (Penguins) in Antarctica and how the Ark must have swung by and dropped them off. (Hey, anti-Ark-tica, thats funny)

"I then explain that in 1492 many people still believed the earth was flat, something we know today to be ridiculous."

Nope, the flat earth movement is alive and well. Also Columbus was a greedy racist who committed genocide and never set foot on continental America. Sorry pet peev.

Noah also had the issue of the marsupials in Australia, the Buffalo in North America, and the layer of salt that would be spread over all landmasses. Busy guy.

The problem is that belief is a moving target. It is part of the "negative space" surrounding scientific thought.

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I’ll tell you what absolutely floors me though. I am a hairstylist with a large clientele, most of whom I’ve become close to over the years, so naturally I have some religious clients, and naturally the topic of religion has come up. There have been people I’ve told that I’m atheist, only to have them tell me “No you’re not! You just think you are!” I just laugh at them and assure them that I am, and they tell me they’ll pray for me. I just look at them and say “if you like, it can’t hurt”. It seems to satisfy them, and they don’t usually bring religion into our time together very much after that!

Shade Level 5 Aug 7, 2018
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Unless the topic of religion is raised, I don’t feel the need to state that I’m atheist. If it is though, and the person is really bible thumping, I will tell them matter-of-factly that I’m a non-believer, and depending on their reaction, we will continue conversing or I will politely withdraw from the discussion.

Shade Level 5 Aug 7, 2018
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It depends on the situation. If they're set in their ways about religion I tend not to speak on it.

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I generally stick to discussing the the things I DO believe in, and if asked, tell people I struggle with religion (which is 100% true). Because of where I'm from, it's just a natural response for people to tell me to "pray about it" or "leave it to God." I choose to respect their beliefs and don't belittle people for those statements because I know it comes from a place of love, even if I don't believe in it myself. And to answer another commenter's question: Yes, believers deserve respect just as much as any other human being. If we went around persecuting every member of a group because of what SOME people in that group did in the name of religion, then we can't expect to be respected either.

I am an Atheist.

I am totally happy to "leave it to God". Just not going waste time while I am waiting.

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My advice is move! Run!! Dont let em get ya?

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Let the discussion first moving and after few exchanges, the other guy will eventually found out you are not a Christian believer. And that makes the discussion interesting for me without deviating from the topic.

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