Over the past year I've had more than one run in here with residue Catholics who are adamant that Pope Frank is serious about changing the church on gays, non believers and alike. Well, time to face it: he's not changing anything.
So, all those same sex attracted Catholic leaning people, who, Frank says are so because it's fashionable to be gay, now know that the church isn't for them.
Who'd have thought? :-<
Seems Frank has worked out that the 'stringing them along' phase of his Papacy has out worn it's effectiveness.
Even the mainstream media are over it.
Good.
They only admitted that the sky doesn't have a dome over it that separates the heavens from the firmament about 400 years ago. Some in their congregations still can't accept it. It will take at least 3 progressive Popes in a row to change that much history. I wish I could get the LGBTQ community to show up at my church. So far none of my FB ad campaigns have worked at all. They don't need to attend Catholic Church, many others would love to have them. Want to change Catholic Churches? Don't go.
@David1955 I agree, The identity thing is a big deal. Most people pay little attention to dogma anymore anyway with some obvious unfortunate exceptions. I'm adding some ritual based on tradition, but its hard to compete with fancy chalices etc. Community service is another area which is easier with size as well.
I was raised a Roman Catholic from birth so I had a front row seat for the theater of the absurd that is religion. I attended church twice a week and was an altar boy for three years. The thing is; in all that time, no priest ever molested me despite pedophilia being rife in the church.
I've never known for sure if this meant I was lucky or I just wasn't sexually appealing.
Not gay but still accept pedofile clergy, that violate childrens?
They're still okay with pedophiles though, right?
Required?
Did the catholic church profess "Hate the sin, Love the sinner?" The message now would appear to be "Hate Both" "Tolerate Neither"
I strongly agree. Gay people should not join any clergy, Catholic or otherwise. I spend time wondering why gay people (or any people) want to join any clergy or join any church. It baffles me.
That always confused me as well. I know many gay people and they go to church. How they attend a place where so many people abhor them is beyond me. Even if they made their own church they'd have to get rid of all the anti gay rhetoric in their religion ?
@gueronihilista Same as women still do.
Before I left the dark side , I considered becoming an catholic. SInce, they seem to be more accepting of gay people. I guess all christain sects are same about accepting gay people. They say god loves all his children is another lie they tell to get people to join a church. How disscraceful and hateful.
Problem is that the clergy, because of the rule of celibacy, specifically attracts men whose sexual inclinations are not accepted by the church. If you can’t marry a woman and make a bunch of Catholic babies (because you’re gay), and you can’t live as an openly gay man (because of the church) you join the clergy.
@David1955 yep. It’s bad enough for the church to tell people that they can be gay as long as they don’t ACT on being gay. Now even that is not allowed.
And yeah limiting the clergy to asexual Catholic men is going to leave them pretty short handed pretty quickly. But as far as I’m concerned let them define themselves right out of existence.
Why did he not say that pedophiles should not join the clergy?
@David1955 I've seen a few accounts that up to half of Catholic clergy are actually gay. But let's put this to the side for now. The Pope proffer that we are all sinners and all sins deserve death, blah ,blah , blah. In this case he is suggesting that some sins are worse than others so much that people can not be an active part of leadership in the Church. That is rather profound. If all sins fall short of the glory of God and lead to death how could one sin be any worse than the other? It is all nonsense.
Catholics are pedophiles point blank period
@David1955 Wow! Could not have said it better!
@Blakadow That is simply untrue, and a harmful thing to say.
@DavidLaDeau YOU...ARE NOT...MAKING....ANY FUQIN SENSE....AT ALL!!!!!! At 1st u said could not have said it better is ur sarcastic saint suit on Satan doesn't look so good on u, u could do better than that. LIES!!!!.....B4 THA DAMN TRUTH. name me another religion that uses angels (cherubs) that looks like a lil boy with wings? I'll wait to save my breath. almost every Catholic Priest is accused for sex abuse scandal on tha Telly some jus haven't been caught...yet. untrue and harmful thing to say?.... again tha beginning tha very first thing I've said in this comment contradicting can't have it both ways
@DavidLaDeau HELL FUQIN NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-UUHHHHHHH!!! I won't owe ya'll a muthafuqin thing but on the flip 22 side yeah not ALL Catholics are pedophiles however they're secretive sexual abuses going on today but they haven't been caught yet what is done in the dark will always come into the light Bible words not mine believe that shyt. ur damage is?
@DavidLaDeau do a damn google search for a boy got molested a the altar by a month ago by Catholic Priest I'm done b4 I bash ur holy cross into skull in ur sweet dreams tonite
"Gay people should not join Catholic clergy."
Straight people neither if you ask me!
FFS, who is Wanky Franky trying to kid here?
Homosexuality, both Gay and Lesbianism has been RIFE throughout the history of the Churches, Catholic and ALL the rest, just as RIFE as has been Institutionalised Child Abuse.
And here we have some bloke who goes around dressed in gowns ( dresses that any transvestite would give their eye-teeth to have, no offence to transvestites btw), has to sit on a seat with an open base over a glass sheet in the floor to PROVE that he actually has MALE genitalia before he becomes the NEW 'Elected' Descendant of St. Peter and Pontifex Maximimus.
Yeah right, pull the other one Wanky Franky, it plays Jingle Bells.
A small step for a man, a giant leap backwards for mankind.
It was clear from the beginning that he was anti-gay. He was always against adoption of gay couples and against gay marriage. He was always an opponent of "the gay lobby". He's the fucking stupid pope of a stupid, evil church. Nothing else is expected of him. That anyone is still looking for redeeming qualities in this hate group is a joke in my view.