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Are You Lonely?

Being single can make me feel lonely, especially during holidays weekends. On July 4 and Memorial Day, I smell tantalizing barbecue grilling in neighbors' backyards. But I feel embarrassed to invite myself over to a friend’s family event.

All of my women friends are married. I have great female hiking partners (all married). We hike together one or two days per week. On weekends they are busy with their husbands.

The gym used to be a social place. But now everyone except me wears headphones. Headphones are a giant “Buzz Off- Leave Me Alone” sign. No more fun conversations with other athletes.

Meet Up disbanded in Wenatchee due to lack of participation. I didn’t go because their activities were too sedentary: playing Bingo and Bunco, pizza with wine/beer, and watching local (boring) baseball and hockey games. The Wenatchee Hiking Meetup doesn’t allow anyone above the age of 35. I could hike circles around those young whippersnappers!

As a Democrat, it helps to join marches and demonstrations. It’s wonderful to be surrounded by like-minded people. But that’s just one day. Volunteering as a college mentor helps me connect with people. The students I mentor win scholarships and go to college. That’s the point.

It’s lonely being a Democrat and atheist in a rural, Republican-dominated, largely married, church-going town. I grew up in Michigan in a family of highly intelligent musicians and artists. At age 21, I moved to Washington State to climb mountains, and stayed.

With a 146 IQ, I have felt different from other people, like I don’t fit in. Sometime I think I don’t belong on this planet.

"My intensity is too much for some people," my daughter Claire, 28, said. Ditto. But we both enjoy our intensity, heightened senses, high energy, intelligence, searching minds, sensuality and humor. This makes us who we are, and immeasurably enriches our lives.

As an extrovert, I love conversation and connecting with people. But I need alone time for reading, meditation, running and weightlifting. Although I enjoy being alone, I miss having a loving relationship.

I miss physical intimacy with a man. I don't mean just sex. I miss cuddling, foreplay, tender touch, romance, laughter and conversations. Without that, casual sex makes me feel sad.

According to psychologists, there are six types of loneliness:

  1. Interpersonal loneliness: This is the result of lacking or losing a significant, or intimate, relationship.

  2. Social loneliness: This is where a person is on the fringes of a group, excluded from a group, or is actively rejected.

  3. Cultural loneliness: This is where a person belongs to a different culture and feels that they don’t fit, or belong, in the new culture.

  4. Intellectual loneliness: This is where a person feels intellectually, or educationally, out of synch with their peers, their family or their social group.

  5. Psychological loneliness: This is where a person has experienced a trauma that separates them out from others around them. That is, it’s something other people can’t fully understand.

  6. Existential or cosmic loneliness: This is an isolating loneliness experienced by a person who is facing death.

For me, 1, 2 and 4 would apply, especially #4.

LiterateHiker 9 Mar 22
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I'm an introvert and I get annoyed with people quickly, so being alone doesn't bother me. When I'm in the mood for company, I go out with a friend and get annoyed in about two hours. Then I'll be grateful to be back home with my cat! Lol. Seriously, it makes it hard to date. Everyone seems desperate to jump into something right away. I also need to mention that I was in an abusive relationship for four years, so maybe that's why my current solitude is so precious to me.

Lani Level 5 Apr 9, 2018

When I can't take my isolation anymore, I shoot out to the local bar, 3-4 beers and back home. Sometimes I find company, sometimes I leave totally depressed that it is such a small, tiny world they exist in. Depends on, not the crowd, but if there is someone "aware" in there

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I've read all of the comments here. Mostly what I'm curious about is where y'all are getting these routine IQ exams?

BlueWave, After his first suicide attempt, my 15-year-old brother was diagnosed as a genius with a photographic memory and bipolar disorder.

Since mental illness is hereditary, all four of us kids were evaluated by the psychologist. He gave us IQ tests, too. I was living with a bunch of geniuses. We all excelled in school. My little sister skipped three grades.

I was 19 and in college when my brother attempted suicide. The psychologist said my IQ was 146. Since then, I have had two IQ tests with the same result. Even a recent, online test said my IQ was 146.

In this photo, I was seven (on the left) at Lake Michigan with my siblings.

I had my IQ tested a few times in high school, because I wanted to skip the last year of HS and move on to college. I don't like posting my IQ but let's just say it was more than good enough to let the backwards-thinking school people in my home town allow me to skip my last year.

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You sound like a perfectly charming woman. I relate to everything you've said as well. I think it's unfortunately common for intelligent people, especially amongst those that get called "geniuses". I suppose it's important to know that you aren't alone, and I would LOVE to chat with you if ever you felt lonely.

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I guess I most closely fit #6. I'm 71 and death often feels close. I go to a gym and try to avoid the worst effects of deterioration. I had a hip replacement when I was 65 and I never fully recovered from that so my walking is impaired. The knee of my opposite leg has no cartilage and is sometimes painful and it further impairs my walking. I feel totally outside of the normal lives of the people around me. I've learned from experience to leave people alone and stay in my own alone space.

It's been several years since I attempted sex. I was getting progressively worse ED that Viagra and the other drugs like that didn't help and I finally gave up trying to have sex out of frustration.

My worst problem is insomnia. I think I would be okay with my life as it is except sleep is a constant ordeal. I get so sick of the hours I spend trying to find my way to a little release and a little bit of not-being. Right now I'm on the second night of no sleep at all. I think about suicide almost constantly. If I owned a gun I would be in peril of just grabbing it and getting it all over with without hesitation. There are also family reasons I am trying to avoid suicide for a while. I rent a room from an ex-wife and the money I'm paying her makes it possible for her daughter to try to upgrade her life by going to school to get a better job than the shit jobs she's had.

I think I will most likely eventually end my life rather than let things deteriorate to the point that I die a slow, miserable death in a VA facility. I know how to do it with helium gas and the times like right now make that feel like a better choice than going on like I am.

Am I lonely? I've passed through stages of loneliness beyond anything I thought there was. It's not even about loneliness any more. It's about the fact that there is almost no pleasure in my life, even from the most simple and basic things like eating, while so many things become more difficult and painful as time passes.

I see that I've made it sound pretty horrible. It's not quite that bad, except when it's 5 am and I'm on the second night of no sleep, it amplifys it all.

If I had the delusion of religion it would probably seem different. It would probably be different. I don't though, and I can't "reboot" my evaluation of reality for my own convenience. I came to my view of a cold, indifferent universe through the sum total of my life experiences, and here I am.

When we label ourselves, "Old" then that is what we become. I have a continuation of ailing physical problems. But I know if I make everything look like all I see is a black hole, then that is where I may head. We all know life gets so much rougher as we age and people do not want to be bothered with because you have disabilities. You can't do this or you can't do that. All we can do is try, if you change your outlook and see the best you can possibly see you can change your life. Sometimes I wish I could help everyone that needs help, but helping myself is the best I can do. Wishing you better days ahead, old DAVE...

@TweedleDee One of the very first things said about me as an infant was that I looked "like an old man." I guess it stuck because I've pretty much felt that way about myself for my whole life

@ghost_warlock I get that and I think we all have had that in life... But I looked at your profile cause I was curious of your name and you seem to be a jolly old soul...

@TweedleDee I have a healthy appreciation for the absurd, yeah. Kind of an "the end is nigh, so why not be silly?" approach 😉

Have you ever considered taking some OTC sleeping pills like Sleepeze or some natural remedies like valerian root or melatonin to help with the sleep issues? I suffer from insomnia as well and it is a pain.

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1 2 3 and possibly 5.Everybody has 6.

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I am alone, Not lonely. The loneliest I have ever felt, and it was Horrible, was when married to a man who professed to love me but proved Clearly that he did not!

I would say the same about my 1st wife.
My 2nd wife would say the same about me.

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Loneliness is a pervasive human quality.

marga Level 7 Apr 5, 2018
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I'm not sure that I am actually lonely. I often find myself on the fringes of a group, but it doesn't really bother me, other than occasional awkwardness. I am not a person who can talk to anybody, anytime. It takes me a while to connect. Other times, the stars align and I talk with everyone. It is strange, because, before I retired, I would walk into my exam room, with a woman who I had never meant, who was there for her initial OB visit, and immediately make a connection. We formed very close relationships from the first visit on to the day I retired. But, in a social situation, I am quiet, can't think of much to say, and just listen to others talk. I would say that instead of lonely, I am rather envious of the ability to talk to anyone in a social situation. I am also 71 years old, and after 25 years of marriage from the age of 19 years old, until I divorced, I love my life of living alone

This is a great feeling ...Feeling comfortable in your own skin. Becoming wiser as we age has it benefits. I will be 65 in Nov. an there is so much comfort in being alone

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I also joined the Wenatchee meet up group, and the Chelan Co. Democrats. I also have several factors on your list. Don't know where to go from here, but maybe we could share ideas.

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Yes. As an only child who has lived alone most of my life, including my entire post-college professionally employed engineering career of the past 12 years, I occasionally experience loneliness. Much more recently since I tend to go about 2 years between relationships and I'm into year 4 without a significant other. I frequently see friends spending time in my area who know I'm lonely and don't invite me to join them which only exaserbates the feeling.

I know the feeling of an only child, I had a brother but today is his anniversary of his death. He died back in 1975 at the age of 23. He had schizophrenia which at that time he was their guinea pig with the drugs they gave him. So I have been alone pretty much of the time. I have step siblings only a step brother bothers with me we get along well now that we are in our 60's. Sometimes if we adopt a good friend and I mean a good one they will want to be your sibling and that is a plus .

@TweedleDee that's definitely not the experience of an only child!

@cvccosplay if you were an only child you were alone. Expressing aloneness for periods of time in our lives does help us to understand. If I was married to a man with dementia I would be alone. Disease of any kind can make you feel alone. Not just having a being beside you, if you have friends then you are not alone. You are lonely because there is no sibling to share with you.

@TweedleDee feeling alone and being alone are 2 entirely different things. One carries the awareness of other people near you when you need to have that comfort. The other (the situation to which I ellude) lacks that luxury. The list in the post omits physical loneliness of having no one in one's life at all, inaddition to the emotional loneliness all of which I relate to as well.

@cvccosplay Thank you for pointing this out to me. I am one that feels pain with intense feelings. I misconstrued this. Not many understand my feelings and I really appreciated you clarifying this for me.

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Wauw, 77 replies! This is apparently an issue that moves a lot of people.

Gert Level 7 Apr 2, 2018
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I enjoy my solitude for the most part but at times I feel like it would be nice to have some folks around.. I'm not particularly close to my family and between my time in the military and my new job Ive kinda fallen out of the loop with my friends back home.. On top of all that I recently moved to New Mexico and I don't really know anyone and its difficult to get into the community. ..

Don't get me wrong.. I'm fine by my lonesome and all that but at times some social interaction would be lovely.

Josh, Google Meetup groups near where you live. It's a great way to have fun with other singles in your town.

Volunteering is another way to make friends.

Also, you can ask your local library for book clubs that are open to new members.

Good luck. Kathleen

@LiterateHiker Thanks Kathleen.. I appreciate the ideas..Sadly possibilities are made worse by the area that I'm in.

@LiterateHiker WOW! I just goggled local Meet Ups here....WOW! There are lots of them. Thank you for that bit of advice!

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I'm lonely, mainly because of the end of a 30 year relationship that I grew too dependent upon. That, and my kids grew up and have lives of their own. I'm slowly learning to deal with it. I still have a few friends, and I'm not estranged from anyone in my family, so I have people to turn to if it gets too bad. It's just a little tough to figure out when you've only very briefly lived alone in your life, and that a long time ago. I was somewhat excluded from groups in my youth, but I found/made a group of my own. Being an extravert, I've always tried to find things in common with whatever group I found myself in, without losing my own identity. For the most part, I succeeded, and always had my real group of friends and family to fall back on.

The only problem is age,,, as we age families get smaller and smaller. And for those who left families for any odd reason of the past. When there is nothing left I know I had to make friends my family..

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1, 2, 4 and 5. Fortunately I don't actually feel lonely that often. I'd say 2 and 5 affect me most often/acutely. 4 not so much now that I've been out of school, and lacking in deep and intellectual conversations for the most part, for so long now. And 1 does get to me badly sometimes, but not most of the time; I've been out of a romantic relationship for the longest time since my first - it was no longer than 6 months before (just a couple months other than the one 5/6 month period), and its now been...atleast a year and a half I believe...-sigh-
My ex (the most recent one, that I'm still friends with) faces the last one way too often for someone who's not actually anywhere near dying. He's caught up in a loop of being terrified of death and thinking about how we're all meaningless in the greater scheme of things and taking that too personally and getting depressed. There's nothing I'm able to do to help him.

Btw, you sound like you may actually be an extroverted introvert, like myself - you get energy from interacting with others, but its still draining and you need time alone to recharge. This would explain why I seem incapable of living with anyone lol.

Neraven, you're right. I am a mix of extrovert and introvert, perhaps 70/30.

A long-term boyfriend, Dan, and I had fun hiking, weightlifting and downhill skiing together. We remained friends and hiking partners after breaking up. Alas, Dan moved to Utah. I miss hiking with him.

A self-motivated person, I don't need a exercise partner to get me out the door for running and weightlifting. But as a woman, it is not safe to hike alone.

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Gee, very touching. Never new there are so many categories of loneliness since I know only one category: mine...... I do miss the very same things you so vividly described. I don't know what my IQ is ( not interested to know either), all I know is that I made it all the way to a master's degree as a pleasant and best experience. PhD didn't happen only because life happens. I've seen my better days, daughters grown up and out of the house (as it should be since always taught them to be independent). All in all, its all good and yet loneliness is a big part of my life. Last time I check, I am not dead yet !!!.... If any of that resonates with you then please send me a note, would you? Cheers !!

IamNobody, Thank you for your thoughtful message. I found what you wrote poignant.

Your username does not do do you justice. You are a unique, kind and intelligent individual with a great sense of humor.

Kathleen

Well, you nailed it so hats off to you with standing ovation... That's exactly the purpose of my name, to remove the specifics off and let everyone decide if they like me for what I think and feel, as opposed to who I might be. Thank a lot for your note, you just made my day !!! Cheers and now a little bit more alive and happy !!!

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For me 1, 2, 3, and 4. Not that I don't like to be alone. There are times I need to be alone. I want to live a partnership and still be able to share each others need for space alone. I am one of many topics and favor, history and science and not necessary a religious topic which I think the word religion should be changed to believers and non-believers.

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I experience relief at getting to go home and be by myself. I don't know that I've ever been lonely. I have never needed anybody else to entertain me and that may make a difference in how I experience being alone.

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I too have a high IQ and with that I see things differently . the loneliness is a special one . I see people, such as trump supporters and wonder if that ignorance is indeed bliss. Not knowing the truth and not wanting to read about truth and then being able to function peacefully within your self has got to be a nice thing. As for me, I am cursed with intellect and must seek out the truth at all times. Sometimes it is lonely but so rewarding.

EMC2 Level 8 Mar 31, 2018
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Being a progressive, introverted, single dad with a 165 IQ and no formal college education stuck in the middle of oklahoma I'm thinking everything but five and six applies to me. But I don't put much stock in IQ scores. I know I have my issues with certain areas.

I'm sorry you're stuck in OK. I lived in the Panhandle for 2 years.

@sewchick57 Yeah my ex-wife put a provision in our custody agreement that I didn't notice that prevents me from moving out of state unless I give her custody. It was a bit of a low blow.

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alone but not lonely...I spend a lot of time alone on purpose.

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Very well articulated....for me it would probably be more cultural - not so much loneliness - maybe more "isolation". I spent 25 years working in an office full of not just republicans - but RABID republicans - who teased and referrred to me as "our token tree hugging, granola crunching, birkenstock wearing liberal". Needless to say, I developed a very thick skin. Add that to the fact that every member of my family hates democrats, liberals, etc etc - you can see where I had to learn to either just let it roll off and keep quiet - or spend my entire life endlessly arguing with everyone. Life is just too short for that. 😉 😉

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Not really, but kind of yes at the same time. I mostly feel sad that I don't have anyone to share all the cool things about life with. I also feel bad that my son doesn't have a male figure to look up to, other than my father who he doesn't see a ton. Other than that, I like being alone. I think there's plenty fulfillment to be had by yourself.

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July 4 is my birthday so I do feel a bit lonely if I'm by myself

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I am lonely a lot of the time. My "work" life (the music side, at least; writing is by nature solitary) is populated by mostly people younger than me, and I'm close to a few of them, but not many.

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'1', my wife of 17 years left me, '3' moved from Los Angeles to a small farm town in SW Michigan and I don't like NASCAR or the NHL and '5' cause I have traveled the world many times and have had 20+ surgeries and a few near death experiences...no one gets me.

You have my sympathy, Agr8m8. I'm so sorry that you had over 20 surgeries and nearly died. Why do you say "No one gets me"?

You might consider asking the nearest hospital or clinic if they have a support groups.

You are lucky to live so close to Lake Michigan. After growing up in Union Lake, Michigan, I miss the Great Lakes.

I have the same problem, I am an empath I feel everyones emotions and when I am drained no one seems to understand that I need to be away from people in order to energize myself. I tired of everyone else's problems so I have to sort of grow my own garden and leave everyone out of my life till I can recouperate.

@LiterateHiker ...I feel no one understands me here. I fast during Thanksgiving. I don't celebrate Christian holiday, nor Valentines day, I am anti government, anti hype, anti establishment, don't like NASCAR or the NFL, don't chew tobacco or think Taco Bell is fancy food. I am on Match.com and soon my queen shall rise out of the crowd like a blossoming lotus on a summer day, from the depths and faded waters of life.

@TweedleDee I understand you completely. I have had to learn to protect my self, too many see my kindness as a weakness and that is usually a huge mistake on their party, but I have learned to keep the antennas up and don't engage in 'non worthy' people, sounds shitty but true. Time alone, for me, is vital, meditating, listening to Al Jarreau, singing....but mostly I dig..... silence

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