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LINK Why Are Right-Wing Conspiracies so Obsessed With Pedophilia? – Mother Jones

The right wing is also obsessed with preserving religion, which is where a lot of pedophlia happens.

snytiger6 9 Sep 14
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QAnon works off the same principle as the witch trials, except with less evidence.

Q'Anon basically plagiarized Nazi propaganda. [justsecurity.org]

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Usually when someone protests way too much, it is because that someone is trying to distract you from what they themselves are doing. Like all those preachers and politicians that preach and scream about homosexuality, and are caught engaging in those same acts in secret. 🤔🤔

It's called projection, one of the most common forms of psychological dysfunction.

I agree, i picture the Qanons muttering "i may be an uneducated, chauvanistic, racist, ammo-sexual, but dammit, at least I'm not a pedophile."

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Lust filled evangelicals have always had a love - hate relationship with sex.

Or with their hands.

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right wingers love to project, that is why you see lots of republican pedophiles

This is not meant to be pedantic, and it's not a distinction most people currently make, though people are starting to understand, Pedophilia is an attraction children, and child molestation is the act. Some humans have instincts to murder, or other such things, and society should be protected from them, and they may need mental health intervention.

However, they should not be demonized and the 2 groups should not be grouped in together.

[en.wikipedia.org]

[blogs.bmj.com]

@LuminousDragon doesn't sound pedantic at all, just fucking disgustingly shortsighted and cringeworthy.

@Mofo1953 The medical community and research agree with me, but since you called me fucking cringe worthy, you have convinced me the experts are all wrong. Thank you for your deep insights.

@LuminousDragon oh, btw, reading requires understanding, it is what you claim not you personally, that is fucking shortsighted and cringeworthy, not at all aligned with experts in the "demonization" part. Is going to jail for being a convicted pedophile demonization or justice? You tell me self appointed expert.

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For the same reason closet homosexuals gay bash people.
They're embarrassed of who they really are.

Sad but yes. But there is a caveat. SOME closet cases bash other gays. Fortunately most do not. It is just like child abuse. Most abusers had some abuse they experienced or witnessed, but most victims do not turn around and abuse.

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This is a very good question but keep in mind that Kellogg corn flakes founder was also into this and promoted his cereal as something that would also help in winning the battle. Circumcision was also promoted as helping end masturbation. When this is on your mind all the time we can expect pedophilia.

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@snytiger6 Thank you for posting this. Seems this exact conspiracy has been circulating at least since the 1100's when Christians accused the Jews of the same sort of behavior.

A worthy excerpt I hope people will read: British historian Norman Cohn, in his book Europe’s Inner Demons, finds elements of pedophile conspiracies throughout history. In the 1st century B.C., members of the Catiline conspiracy, an aristocratic plot to overthrow the Roman Republic, supposedly swore an oath over the entrails of a boy and then ate them. And in the witch hunts of the 15th–17th centuries, tens of thousands of people were tortured and killed over allegations that they’d performed ritual child murder, among other heinous acts.

The conspiracy theories documented by Cohn are fundamentally political. The rituals they describe are the means “by which a group of conspirators affirms its solidarity,” he writes, with the ultimate goal of overthrowing “an existing ruler or regime and to seize power.” The mass witch hunts that followed are political too, based on the “demonological obsessions of the intelligentsia.” The history of American political reaction is full of sex demons. Jim Crow was buttressed by myths about black male virility. Likewise, North Carolina’s infamous bathroom bill was sold in part on the fear that predatory men could say they’re transgender to gain access to women’s bathrooms. Opponents of abortion rights continue to conjure gory fantasies of promiscuous women committing “infanticide,” an incitement that Trump turned into an applause line in an April rally.

Nunya Level 6 Sep 15, 2020

Thanks. I just put Cohn's book on my book list!

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In other words, people are just fucking crazy. And this happens every single time the social order changes. From the article: The McMartin accusations were a vivid demonstration of the rot in the American social structure, as perceived by conservatives. Perhaps inevitably, the claims metastasized. Now it was hundreds of children who had been assaulted and subjected to satanic rituals, and now, instead of just one McMartin teacher, there was an entire sex ring involved. One boy told of adults in masks and black robes dancing and moaning; of live rabbits chopped to bits by candlelight. “California’s Nightmare Nursery,” People magazine called it. But soon the case began to fall apart. The stories of abuse turned out to have been coaxed out of children by way of dubious and leading questioning. Judy Johnson, who made the initial accusations that her son had been molested, was found to be a paranoid schizophrenic. In 1986, a district attorney dropped charges—at one point there had been 208 counts in all—against all but two of the original defendants. A pair of trials ended in 1990 with the juries deadlocking on some charges and acquitting on the others. After seven years and $15 million in prosecution costs, the remaining charges were dropped.

However flimsy its premises, the case whipped up a national panic. In 1985, a teacher’s aide in Massachusetts was wrongly convicted of molesting 3-, 4-, and 5-year-old boys and girls; the prosecutor had told the jury that a gay man working in a day care was like a “chocoholic in a candy store.” Around that time, employees at Bronx day-care centers were arrested for allegedly sexually abusing children. Five men were sentenced before all ultimately saw their convictions overturned.

Nunya Level 6 Sep 15, 2020
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They are afraid of being revealed as the pedophiles they are.

This is not meant to be pedantic, and it's not a distinction most people currently make, though people are starting to understand, Pedophilia is an attraction children, and child molestation is the act. Some humans have instincts to murder, or other such things, and society should be protected from them, and they may need mental health intervention.

However, they should not be demonized and the 2 groups should not be grouped in together.

[en.wikipedia.org]

[blogs.bmj.com]

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I’d wager that it’s because they are very concrete thinkers and it’s something that is definitively wrong. So they feel like they have the moral ground and can’t be argued with. Unlike homosexuality and premarital sex where they know they’re losing the battle of public opinion.

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The same reason the Catholic church opens schools all over the world to "teach & protect the children". Hypocrisy has a certain level of success in hiding ulterior motives.

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It's the same old story from the ends of time.

In this dialogue, written by Marcus Minucius Felix in the 2nd century, the Roman pagan Caecilius Natalis speaks of Christians the way Pizzagaters described John Podesta and his fellow liberal elite. Natalis is particularly incensed by the cult’s initiation ritual. The details are as “revolting as they are notorious”: New members are initiated into the cult, he reports, by stabbing and killing an infant who has been coated in dough.

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I think the article makes sense, both about predictable backlash to social progress and about notions of need to protect society's children being an easy excuse for attacking anyone a given group disagrees with. (Just look at that tired old trope relating to conservatives' attacks against both homosexuality and women's reproductive freedom.)

But there is another glaring reason I didn't see referenced at all in the article: Why sex specifically? It is tempting to simply say "projection" of their own secret temptations. I immediately had that thought, too, and for a tiny number of religious nuts, it might be true.

More accurately, though, it is about Christian's fear of sex and their notion of sex as a weapon of the Devil.

Sex as a whole is arguably the number one most popular obsession for both Christianity and Islam as a dubious and taboo subject. This is intentional on the part of these religions. They both are centrally fear-based religions. They both depend on fear to motivate people to believe they need the religion to be saved. Sex and sexuality offers the perfect target for convincing people that they themselves may be sinful and therefore desperately need religion to save them from their supposed depravity.

Sexuality is not only natural; it is also central to humanity. We are the most sexual of all primates, along with our closest genetic cousins, the Bonobos. Both are more sexually active than any other primate species. Not only that, but we are greatly varied in how we are aroused and the particulars of our sexual behavior preferences.

That combination makes sex uniquely attractive as a focus of religion to convince us that we, personally, may be horribly sexually deviant--aka depraved, aka sinful-- and need religion to save us from our own nature.

Combine that human sexual nature of diversity with the scare tactic low-hanging fruit of society's "need to protect children," and voila! You have all you need to make child abuse conspiracy theories inevitable.

You present a very convincing argument! thank you.

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LMAO - so in 1000's it was Christains doing all the blood rituals, crazy sex, & baby killing: “Decay of morals grows from day to day,” goes one despairing account. A secret cabal is wreaking havoc across the land, the man complains to his friend. Its members “recognize one another by secret signs and marks,” and “everywhere they introduce a kind of religion of lust” that subverts “ordinary fornication.” There is a rumor that they worship the “private parts of their director and high priest.” Maybe the rumor is false, “but such suspicions naturally attach to their secret and nocturnal rites.”

In this dialogue, written by Marcus Minucius Felix in the 2nd century, the Roman pagan Caecilius Natalis speaks of Christians the way Pizzagaters described John Podesta and his fellow liberal elite. Natalis is particularly incensed by the cult’s initiation ritual. The details are as “revolting as they are notorious”: New members are initiated into the cult, he reports, by stabbing and killing an infant who has been coated in dough.

Nunya Level 6 Sep 15, 2020

Well, at least it was not an infant coated in matzah!

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Mostly catholic priests, all Religions as far as I know allow marriage except the Catholic one.

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Truth!

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That's easy, they are involved in it and ranting about it is a diversion. it's that simple.

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I can't imagine people being slow minded to the point of believing this obviously moronic lie. Fortunately I've never met anyone that dumb.

They exist, that’s for sure. Your fortunate for that. I’ve seen people that dumb........look at some of Pres. Chumps Followers. If he told some of them that Hawaii is going to sink or that Florida is going to pull away from the US they would believe him. After all they deny science, logic and common sense and only believe what he says.

What is the lie you speak of? I mean Epstein existed and was 99.99% sure to be guilty, and Trump was his co defendant.

[cdn.factcheck.org]

Yes, there is many nutty theories surrounding it all, but there are certainly child abusers in power.

@LuminousDragon The lies in the article that is the subject of this thread.

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Real simple all these Obstructionist republican fascists are pedophiles, they are obsessed with child sex, child porn, human trafficking, and homosexual sex in public restrooms such as parks, airport, and stadiums!!!

If you take the time to research and investigate it is so surprising how many republican public officials, elected republican politicians, police, and right wing sponsored militias have been investigated, charged, and arrested for child trafficking, child porn, sodomy, sex with animals, sexual, and physical abuse of children and spouses to name of the few of the criminal offenses being perpetuated by right wing evangelistic’s, pastors, law enforcement, and republican politicians who all quote and expound that Anon is a trusted source of factual credible information.

If you take the time you will find that theses republicans, right wing evangelistic’s, and law enforcement are arrested at almost four times the so called progressive, liberal and/or leftist!!!

Sad but true child trafficking, child abuse, sexual abuse, and Domestic abuse has increase under the toolage of the obstructionist republican fascist over the last fifty years, who created Anon to push and divert their crimes against our society and culture!!!

I theorize that believers condemn sex simply because they get an extra thrill for "being naughty" when they do it. I imagine that theory would extend out to pedophiles.

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You say that like there are not any lefties saying the same about the Right. I've seen both do it. And especially at this time in an election year. Mudslinging is pretty much part of the play book. I hate that, but it is true.

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I hope that the revelations about liberal efforts in over-sexualizing children through sexaully graphic books in elementary schools, encouraging gender questioning and pushing to hide it from parents, the "child friendly" drag shows, drag story hours, as well as the volume of people involved in child trafficking being allowed to cross our borders are beginning to ring a bell for some people. And what we have seen is the government targeting the parents attempting to protect their children.

A public education supported by money from tax payer funding has the responsibility to at least, “do no harm”. Find one reasonable minded parent that supports the idea that exposing children to graphic sexual violence does not harm a child. They don’t exist. Parents understand that children should be shielded from material that is attempting to normalize sex for children, especially when some of it is violent and abusive. Those books undermine the values of most families.

As a mother read a passage, the Loudon Board members said it was inappropriate for the meeting! If inappropriate for an adult audience, for the purpose of providing an example of their concerns, why is it appropriate for children to consume?

In a series of videos posted by Ian Prior on Twitter, parents read passages from books, including “Monday’s Not Coming” by Tiffany Jackson, which were apparently assigned to 9th grade students in Loudoun County Public Schools (LCPS). “She sucked my dck,” a parent read from a text.
Passages from Jackson’s book read by the furious parents included characters discussing oral sex, a female character being beaten and thrown into a closet and a sexual encounter in a classroom. The book “#MurderTrending” by Gretchen McNeil, was also quoted, where a female character discussed the size of a male friend’s genitalia. “He had a big d
ck,” a parent read in the meeting.

Ultimately defending this practice is akin to allyship with the pro-pedophilia groups. Parents are not going to give people with those agendas an open door to their kids. Hence the fight you are witnessing in Loudon County and across the country.

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I thought it was due to Alex Jones...and apparently he was right. According to Joe Rogan. Never actually watch Alex jones...

Alex Jones is a media whore. He will say anything to get into the public spotlight. His just interested in cashing in an dmakign money off of his off the wall conspiracy theories.

My brother sent me a ticket to a "911 Truth" seminar. There were many speakers, but their theories mostly just contradicted each other. The only central theme was that you can't trust waht the government tells you.

@snytiger6 lol for sure he is! but apparently in his 20 years of slinging BS he got only one thing partly right. I used to live in Austin...i remember his tv channel. Dude was workin hard separatin' fools from their money. Cant fault him for selling something totally absurd and finding a buyer. Alex is my warning to leave. When I meet someone and they are a serious fan of conspiracies, I say "check please" and im out. lol.

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I can't access the article, but I'd say a lot of it is projection.

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