After just a couple exchanges, I think I can see why.

I completely understand 110% with you I am on the breaking point too. The children are the only shread holding us together.

The irony of his post and then him whining about being blocked, is laughable and sad at the same time.

@hippydog her post

@PinkyandtheBrain ????

How is it that you attract those women? Are you sure it's their fault?

Some people change sometimes drastically for the worst.

And for most men a crazy bitch is a woman who doesn't treat a man like he was a fucking God.

@Kojaksmom right?!!

Oh, we know.

@Wildflower Of course you don't, you don't know me. Anyhow, why so much anger everywhere we look? Life is beautiful

@IamNobody That's the problem right there, pretending there is no problem. Or maybe being ignorant of the problem and not being open to learn. Of course you're content. You're a man in a man's world.

@Wildflower See, back to my point. There is NO man's world, there is no such thing as being ignorant of this line of thought. There is only people, some male some female. Some good, some bad and some even worst but we cannot throw the baby with the tub just because we feel that way on a given day. That's my comment, that's all.

@IamNobody I could not get credit in the 1960's without a man's signature, Women could not drive in Saudi Arabia. Birth control was illegal until 1964 in the USA. Control of our own bodies are being threatened. Women make 75% of what men do for the same performance. Female genital mutilation is performed by male doctors in Michigan. Fistula is caused by men. I can go on forever but I have to fight the power. Don't tell me it isn't a man;'s world. Rising up angry. Hear me roar!

@Countrywoman Why took you so long?... Hardly remember who the heck are you. One thing I can tell you though, you have issues and I am not the answer to your problems. Carry on with your life, I wish you well.

Sad isn't it? I know there are good men out there, but they're a rare find. I've just opened myself up to getting my needs met.

Totally agree! I'm in the same spot you are. I've given up for the same reason. Can't seem to trust them anymore. Anytime I let my guard down and decide to trust them, they do something to take it away.

@Aushra yeah me too. Its not worth it. These days it can get you killed to let your guard down. It's not just sexism it's just the strange way that men use women.

It takes only one or two bad guys to ruin things for the good guys. I'm sadden by your (and everyone here's) cynicism. The good guys end up paying for the offenses of the bad who came before them.

@dare2dream perhaps you're right. I am negative and always expect the worst from Men. I will also say that more times than not I'm right. Whenever I let my guard down and give a man a
chance, I'm usually either used or let down. I've drawn the conclusion that it's by far more beneficial to avoid the bad, than it is to find a good solid relationship.

@Kojaksmom, You may or may not find some comfort in knowing men get disappointed, used and let down too. But, as they say, "Faint heart never won a fair maid". No matter how many times our hearts are broken or we are disappointed we must be brave enough to risk our heart again. If we are not receptive, nothing good can come into our life. That keeps me going.

great analogy.... and yes I have to agree - by the time you're well into adulthood, people are who and what they are. Nobody "changes" anyone - you can help an individual knock the rough edges off but that's pretty much it. I think it helps if you pay attention to how he treats his friends, relatives, coworkers - not just the that little "courtship" dance that he does for you.

@HippieChick58 and @Lavergne Ditto what you both said.

Right? People are people. Some of us persist in saying "this person has a penis so they are better/worse than others" or a different color skin or any of the other myriad ways you can classify folks. It just isn't so. Group membership, particularly groups you have no choice in whether or not to join, is not a guarantee that you are a good person or a bad one.

Because man has been in total control since we stood up on two feet he has held everything he believes to be below him in check. How many women in Congress? How many women in the banking industry? How many women in seats of power as CEOs of large corporations? And then how many of them get paid for doing the job a man does equally.

Yeah, me too and one before him... ..........

I have a hard time getting this point across to women. They just don't seem to want to adapt.

The problem is in our society cutting up firewood is seen as fine skill worthy of admiration and respect, so you better use your lesser skills and make that f** shrimp scampi.

@Kojaksmom Hahahahaha Oh honey - I can chainsaw with the best of them.... my husband, on the other hand, couldn't fix shrimp scampi if his life depended on it.

@Lavergne but my point is our society instinctively values all characteristics that essentially are more masculine. Our society considers most characteristics that are instinctively feminine to be weak and less valuable.

@Kojaksmom
Lololololol! Ha ha ho ha her whooo, oh, my, THAT was HILARIOUS!

Please tell my you’re being facetious. You can’t possibly be serious.

@Dangrenade I am serious. I'll give you an example. a woman who shakes her tits in your face for entertainment gets paid more than a nurse. Look at our current Administration Trump is a man's man. We live in such a shit violent Society because of it. Give me a list of why you're right of all the things that are valued in our culture that are not Macho and violent

@Kojaksmom

Open a paper. Read a magazine. Go online. Watch the news. Do your own research. But most of all, OPEN YOUR EYES, and open your mind.

You need to do yourself a favor (seriously) and watch “The Red Pill”.

But you won’t, because you cling to your hatred of men like a security blanket. Nothing and no one can persuade you differently.

Enjoy your hate filled rage.

@Dangrenade I will. In the meantime I hope you can recover from constant degradation because you're a man. The red pill movement basically States that only the most violent dominant males are worthy of breeding. No thanks.

@Kojaksmom nice straw man argument you got there

@Dangrenade Google it yourself that's exactly what it is. It's close to incel philosophy.

@Kojaksmom lololol! Oooh, hahahaha, OMG, woman, you make me LAUGH!!!

Thanks!

@Kojaksmom

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Add to the list above “Being called “incel” if I defend myself/my gender against unfair accusations”.

@Dangrenade I suppose we could argue about white privilege too huh?

@Kojaksmom l disagree. Who is 'society'? It's the famous 'They say...' There is no 'they' dictating anything. There is no collective decision. I agree that perspective is widespread but you might consider dealing with one person at a time. Otherwise you're implicating everyone! Don't assume that because you feel degraded that all other women feel the same. Many don't. Many of those who do, simply toss those with that attitude out of their lives and move forward to enjoy their life. I hope that eventually you can see your way clear to do that as well.

@Kojaksmom I hope you can recover.

@MojoDave I hope you can too. There are many social experiments that have been conducted that support a generalized way that people think. No it doesn't apply to all, but you may be surprised at the percentages that it does. To simply say there is no problem does not make it go away.

@Kojaksmom, Trump is the furthest thing from a man's man, that i at least, can imagine. There are many good men out there who treat women with respect and see them as equals. Sadly there are an awful lot of assholes too......it's those assholes, because they are such assholes, that give women the impression that we're all alike and make it extremely hard for the good men to even earn a chance to show we're different.

Thank you for this post. I wish I had read it before I dated the last person I did. It's very scary.

That's very insightful. They are in a vicious cycle.

@wildflower But some of these men are incredibly Insidious. Many of them present as a man who is trustworthy and kind, but sometimes there's something else lurking underneath the surface. eventually their true colors shine through. When you're dealing with men that hate women it literally, for them, is a game of the hunted and the Hunter.

@Kojaksmom yes, you are right. They are not always easy to spot.