@jorj I wouldn't talk. You flirt all kinds of lines from what I'm reading! ?

@jorj really? Fun and games? ?

@SukiSue thank u ma'am ♥️

@jorj I don't have to be careful sir . I give exactly two rats ass about my political correctness . It is what it is , u can say it w five words or w one , I don't give a damn .

We certainly don't know but I'm willing to wager that Jimmy Carter never cheated. Except in his heart perhaps.

@jorj @Pralina1 Manners and respect, however, are not.

Clinton was inappropriate work place behavior! Not criminal!

@Freedompath It was still harassment and wrong no matter how you look at it. But I would vote for Bill again in a heart beat!

@RiverRick harassed but not criminal! A agree completely inappropriate!

@linxminx if he can have a lunch break on our dime and a golf game, he can have a blow job. we may not like that, but it's still none of our business -- and he wasn't impeached for wasting taxpayer money.

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@linxminx no, not a huge deal. we can disagree civilly. not every can, alas! but we don't entirely disagree. i am not trying to give clinton a pass on his indiscretion. i am trying to say that congress had no call -- and certainly no pure motivation -- to impeach him over it.

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@linxminx he can also take a poop at tax payers time . I guess the issue here is sex a physiological need and can a married man restrain him self if such need w other women . As far as know , regular joe seldomnly able to . I can't imagine how Mr president would be any better . I am not happy about , but I am not sleeping w either the joe type either the president type so I don't give a rats behind . Not my issue .

@linxminx I understand this .

@Pralina1 that is close to how i see it. i guess i can also point out that the impeachment and the "investigation" that led up to it wasted enough taxpayer money to raise the question of whether or not it was worth doing over that issue. i mean, lyndon johnson used to make senators talk to him from outside the bathroom door so they could hear him pooping. that was kind of gross. impeachable? and did it make him a bad president? as far as i know, dubya never had a blow job in the oval office. is lying to the american public about illegally invading a foreign country that never attacked us and didn't have weapons of mass destruction an impeachable offense? is it worse than a blow job -- and more to the point, is it more our business than a blow job?

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@genessa I am not concerned about my ‘tax payer dime,’ it shows a lack of discipline...when having affairs or sexual encounters in ANY workplace! But, it seems shocking to have this happen... in the PEOPLE’S house! We expect at least professionalism, there of all places!

@genessa Having a blow-job is not unethical, even if you are married. Lying about it is.

@Gareth granted, gareth... but then so is asking about it when it's not in and of itself unethical and doesn't affect his performance as president. he should not have been gone after for that and asked. had he not been asked, there would have been no occasion to lie, and i am not excusing the lying but come on, impeachable for that? seriously? high crimes? not!

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@Freedompath on the grand scale of things, i think going after him for that when traditionally we give presidents THAT much leeway and try to focus on the job done, not the blowjob done, is more unethical than either the sex of the lying (in answer to a question that should not have been asked). did anyone ask george h w bush that? oh wait, we don't know if HIS affair(s) was/were in the oval office. does that really matter more than, say, his son's attacking a sovereign nation under false pretenses? that's lying too, and if dubya didn't get a blow job, he sure delivered a snow job. cherrypicking what to impeach about is political and has nothing to do with ethics (or the people's house).

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I was responding to linxminx but replied to the thread owner in error.

@genessa I believe the difference in this specific ‘sex’ story is this is a attempted sexual assault! This is not some encounter that went over the line! Or some guy, who really put the pressure on some gal, for sex! This is intended violence...for sex or power! And I know the difference, because I have been there! When I say there is sexual assault and there are men, who will try and aggressively try to have sex... it is not the same! A sexual assault has something to do with ‘bringing down the woman!’ At least that has been my experience and a man of this mindset should not sit in judgement of others! Your other points, I agree with. There are so many issues that are more important than sex! But at the same time ‘sexual assault,’ may be a symptom of a much deeper problem!

@genessa I like that you put that ‘g’ at the bottom of your post...I might have to borrow your idea!

@Freedompath lol but your initial is f! if you put g, people will wonder! of course that isn't always a bad thing.

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@Freedompath that is of course a major difference. sadly it's not even our only objection to kavanaugh but holy crap it's a big one!

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@genessa ha ha...glad you pointed that out...there is so much ‘f’ going on, I might need to rethink my idea!

@genessa right...

@Freedompath as long as your second initial isn't u....

oh my that reminds me of a good moment from the odd couple (the play and probably the movie, not the tv show, although it may have shown up there). oscar madison is upset with the little notes felix unger leaves around the house, which felix has signed with his initials: "fu."

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I agree with you!

Women do wait. When my ex and I were married we had an argument one day. I forget about what. In bed that night I rolled over at 3 AM and her voice came out of the darkness, "and another thing I don't understand . . . . . . . . "

This is a true story.

@DenoPenno I guess you know why she's an ex, then.

@Gareth Among other things she thought drama was communication.