Is there a correlation between being a true atheist and abolishing the monogamous lifestyle? Do you think that an atheist is more or less likely to prefer polygamy?
A great many people who claim to be both monogamous and religious have sex with more than one person while supposedly in a monogamous relationship. You can't force a monogamous person into poly, and you can't force a poly person into monogamy. Atheists just tend to be more honest about it, I think.
@Allamanda I think there's a lot of misunderstanding that leads to judgment from society as a whole, though. The supposed "ideal" relationship is pounded into us as being exclusive to each other, and people start out from the perspective of monogamy as being inherently "right" because of this.
How come there are so many more males in polygamy than females?
Maybe because the men are always looking for that hot bi babe.
Most of the functions I've been to specifically ban single men because of that.
Patriarchy and perception.
@Jolanta I have always been in poly relationships. I can't even count how many men have asked me at gatherings if I would have sex with their wife while they watch (and I don't consider myself hot).
It's not all men. I should have clarified that. It is enough men to where I stopped going to all poly gatherings because I felt like I was in a swing situation (for those that are not familiar, there is a difference between the two).
A post-christian society is one in which fewer and fewer people believe, but the christian values are so imbued that they live on. I used to think a community of non-believers would take to behaving as our fellow large mammals. Not the case.
@LimitedLight ...interesting...thanks a lot...
@LimitedLight ...the sexual vs. social monogamy is an aspect I hadn't considered....food for thought...
WTF is a true athiest?
@Shouldbefishing I know that’s the fallacy that doings to my mind when I see that kind of language.
@Shouldbefishing I think we both agree there’s not a good answer to that.
One thing has nothing to do with the other!! Odd question!
was thinking the same thing.
@Marcel3405 which is more or less the same
That seems like an incredibly odd question?
Like the Religitards that like to imply that one can't have a moral compass without the fear of God!
Utterly Ridiculous!...
So i find the premise of your question to be highly flawed. Unless again your view is that an Atheist must just automatically not be capable of monogamy/commitment without some kind of religion?
@Marcel3405 Exactly.
I find the whole poly thing very interesting, I would enjoy learning about it over a coffee.
it is living arrangments that confuse me the most, and etiquette.
From what I've seen, there's usually a primary couple and they each have a date night or such. A true triangle is pretty rare. Sometimes it's two married couples who swap, or variations on that theme. There are books and online groups and meet ups galore, and I think it's pretty rare to find happy people who have done this long term. But, the few who do, also don't come to meet ups or write books, because they know their way is not the only way.
I always thought Mormons had polygamy....why would you think we would?
Just met an atheist friend and she has a sister-wife. It was interesting to talk withher.
"Abolishing" anything sounds iffy. I think people are more likely to live and let live, without religion to teach them to be judgmental.
Zesty, we just have an arena where people can more openly discuss their proclivities and preferences. If such freedom existed outside of this site you would here more. There are communities where these topics are openly didcussed, but they are cloistered and guarded for the above reasons.
I don't think so monogamous lifestyle can be abolished. Sexual relationships come in different styles and it doesn't matter if a person is an atheist or religious. The great thing in a non believer community is that people try to be honest and clear about their sexual relationship preferences.
I was religious and now I'm a non-believer but I'm still feeling comfortable with the monogamous style and also I expect the same thing from a partner.
Here are some examples of sexual relationships styles and maybe somewhere are more styles.
Monogamous Relationships.
Polyamorous Relationships.
Open Relationships.
Long-Distance Relationships.
Casual Sex Relationships.
'Friends With Benefits' Relationships.
Asexual Relationships.
That's just silly I've been an Atheist my whole life and I would only be comfortable in a monogamous relationship I'm not condemning others who want to have polygamous relationships but I am a monogamist because that's how I feel
I see no correlation between being an atheist and being.... well, anything different than the general population. Being religious does not make one believe in certain morals or ethics, and I doubt that not having a religion telling you how to live will change your basic temperament. I would not want a polygamous relationship, period!
The norms of human behavior come from our evolved heritage, religion merely takes what is there and gives the credit to the supernatural beings, because the priests who are employed in their name want them to have credit for everything, thereby getting more power and wealth to themselves. They should not be allowed to take credit for moral norms, any more than for making the rain fall. (Though they tried that too, because they could get away with claiming anything which people in the past could not understand.)
No. Men who intend to be monogamous cheat out of weakness. From losing an internal battle against innate feelings of attraction for the opposite sex. And it apples to both religious people an non religious people. If I had to pick a side, I would say atheists are better at this because they have more control over their minds.
Being atheist isn't something that can be subjected to definition other than that of having rejected gods/theology. There is nothing else to be added or subtracted that could be reasoned to qualify one as a 'true atheist'.
A true 'Atheist' is spoken of as a proper noun, as a label or title most often rather than an adjective merely describes one's state of mind or attitude.
The trouble with the former conception ( more popular) is as soon as you label something as a noun, ambitious, self-important prigs begin to dream up criteria and establish their own petty orthodoxies; umbrella intellectual fifedoms over which they deign to preside, claiming superior judgment over who is or isn't "TRUE".
As to polygamy; it is therefoe impossible to draw any consistent relationship between it and the atheist mind set one way or another. They aren't related any more or less than any other thought on that narrow basis alone.
Polygamy in our time and place in history is flawed like every other social practice/institution within human societies by the simple, pathogenic common denominator of male dominance. Anything dominated by males is poisoned from the start.
I voted yes because I personally think being an atheist makes it easy to look at everything with an open mind, without pre-conceived notions.That's me. However I have seen many dating profiles where religion is important to them while they preferred non-monogamy, BDSM and more.
The two could not be less related in my mind. If anything, polygamy is more closely tied to religion (see Mormonism and most of the Old Testament).
Relationship is a social contract. Participants conduct themselves according to mutually agreed laws and agreements. Breaking such rules and agreements means violating the contract. For example there are already women and men with multiple partners and all of them agree to this arrangement. Church and state brainwashed people into thinking that what they define as marriage, family, and relationship is the only correct one that is why people who do not follow these imposed rules but instead follow their heart are made to suffer. The time has come to correct our brainwashed brains.