Does anyone else struggle with hating religion? It is a daily struggle, letting go of hate, as I understand its hypocritical. I consistsntly feel like the black sheep in my community, in my family and amongst my friends. I consistantly find myself hiding or diminishing my beliefs to make others feel better.
Rather than go against ‘self’...respond with your lack of interest in any religion...people seemed to be stumped by this statement. Then discuss serious thoughts with people who ‘hear you’ and can understand. When I feel unheard by others, it leaves me feeling devalued...but religious people judge everyone by some yardstick of their religion. No need to share even your real self with these people...they don’t judge people by their personalities and traits! Their valuation comes from scripture...memorized and worshiped. Is that where you see your value?
@Kc2222 ...then you have everything you need to free yourself...
No. I'm not usually in a situation where the people around me are so entrenched in religion where they can't stop talking about it. Even if it's in passing I just overlook it, and it passes, then it's on to the next conversation. Everyone and their situation are different though.
I actively hate religion. I'd like to let go of the hate too, but it would require me to ignore or not care about what I see it doing to people. I can't ignore it lying to and stealing from poor people and encouraging those same said poor people to elect horrible evil rich people into positions of power to further lie to and steal from a broader vulnerable base of poor people. It's disgusting. To me, looking at religion and not hating it would be like looking at vomit and not feeling revulsion and gagging.
not i. first of i don't hate religion. i hate that some people want to push it on me, either personally or through legislation or adjudication, but i don't hate religion. i think it's mostly silly, and i believe there are no gods, but why would i waste my energy hating religion? so no struggle either. second of all, i've been openly atheist since the age of 15 (and wasn't closeted before that; i believed in a vague god in a vague way and then realized how silly that was and stopped). so i do not hide or diminish my beliefs, political, regarding deities or in any other way on any other topic, to make others feel better. why should i?
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I hate "The Church" not the people. There's a distinction for me between the institution and the folks tricked into participation.
@Kc2222 New England Churches aren't so bad as that. No racism. Homophobia depended on the priest you were dealing with and word got out - so people avoided those churches. lol
I don't think people would put up with that at all now. But who knows? The Vatican keeps coming up with bat shit crazy statements. Most folks who attend here - don't support the Vatican very much.
It's way it's easier to separate the institution from the people.
I wish the people would just leave the institution however. Way healthier.
I gave up religion 45 years ago. But needless to say I carried resent against believers for years. This was especially true when I was home with my family, as I had to pretend, or at least thought I did. I'm not sure when, but eventually I became inured to religiosity.
As a teacher I have to put up a front, as I teach in a Native community. There are a number of ceremonies that involve a prayer or reference to a Christian God. I just bow my head and wait patiently for the event to end.
I no longer fight that battle. Since I don't believe in any religion or religious paradigm, I can't see wasting time on something that doesn't exist.
@Kc2222
Complex question. In general I see religion as a negative force for a world that is increasingly secular and needs secular answers as opposed to religious answers. But I also see students who need some sort of glue to keep their lives together.
Those that rely on religion (fundamental or extrememly staunch) will most likey not be directing policy in the future. This present environment is going to rebound on christianity and Islam in a negative way. the swing of the pendulum.
I can excuse people for being theist. They just don’t know any better. But when a professional theist spits out bullshit, knowing full well it’s bullshit, just to collect his pay, I do get offended.
I strongly oppose religion. I hate what it does in the world. I don't hate people for being religious. I strongly condemn religious hypocrites and phonies who exploit and use religion for financial or political gain. I focus on exposing religion for the delusion that it is, and believe religion should be criticised, condemned, exposed, and actively fought against in all constructive ways, and never give in to religious trickery or emotional blackmail, at which they excel. That what I focus on.
Okay, this is a little different.
I fucken hate the occults. All of them. The Christian's, Jews, Muslims, Hindes...
Girl, as you age your gonna get ugly, fight a biological clock and die. Along the way, you can watch it happen to the people you love.
As they suffer watch them pray and beg to a non existent god.
Always keep in mind if the occults hadn't brainwashed society, it is likely we would have cured the human condition by now. If people didn't believe in heaven, they would fight death.
Occults are causing you to suffer in a much greater way than most atheist pussys will give them credit for.
Now use your inner Darwin. Go all Darth Maul on their shit.
Don't be the normal pussy atheist, who just accepts them for being idiots. Don't accept it. Feel and nurture that hate in you.
Get pissed. Get fucken angry.
Now, go fight a good fight.
Start a subtle conversion of their flock.
Weapons come in all forms, but knowledge masked with a smile is likely the most effective.
Go save a life.
Challenge their beliefs in heaven and you fortify a fight against mother nature.
I can understand your hate, and I think it must be incredibly difficult for non-believers in the US to cope with all the religious nonsense, especially now that the religious nutjobs seem to be gaining the upper hand on so many fronts.
Get rid of the hate, it harms you. Can you link up with other atheists?
I think she is actually saying that she finds it difficult to hate religion, not that she does hate it.
Being an anti-theist I can understand your feelings.... I don't hate religion so much as despise what it does to people. Religion is a catalyst for hate and bigotry so I prefer not to have the same fault as my enemy does and try to instead place doubts in the minds of believers through being better educated on their religion than they are. Just by quoting a bible verse they never knew existed places doubts in the minds of those who let some worthless bum who can't hold a real job tell them what to believe and thereby sends more preachers back where they belong.... Flipping burgers for minimum wage....
@Kc2222 Ask them why the family was forced to immigrate here and then tell them "oh yeah because the church is selling redemption to the gullible and owns most of the property there...." This is true I happen to know some people from there and most of the property they should have inherited went to the church. They are now tenants who can barely afford rent even though they are still working the land that had been in their family for generations while the local bishop collects the rents in a Landrover....
I don’t hate religion....I try not to hate anything, hate is more destructive to self than to the object of our hate. In any case religion is an abstract, it’s a belief not an actuality. What I do dislike intensely is the damage that religious belief causes to the rationality and minds of otherwise sane and intelligent people, and when these people try to influence government policy with their religious dogma. On a personal level, I tolerate others’ views, especially those of friends who believe, but without disguising or watering down my own. I only confront others if they try to proselytise or tell me I’m wrong by not believing what they do, but that happens only rarely, and never amongst my friends or family,
Religion is, hate, fear and war. In some ways I support church burnings. I was hanging out with some guys I met at a slayer concert. Told them to burn a church we drove by. I was joking mostly. They got gas, and I talked them out of it. Yes, i fucking hate religion. Most brainwashing bullshit ever.
Speaking personally, hating something implies expending negative energy toward something and religion doesn't merit the expense. If I invest a lot of myself in something, I can easily get rattled if it's attacked. With religion, there is no investment, so any discussion on my part is from a position of calm comfort, which I find can be much more aggrivating for the opposition.
Im an atheist, but the best people ive known in life are Christian. I tell people that im an atheist but have Christian principles.
Don't hate Religion just have a sense of humor about it.
Depends on what you mean by "hate". I don't use that word in the casual way many people will say, "I hate broccoli". I find religion tiresome and annoying, but understand that eradicating it from society and culture is the work of centuries to come, and I'm going to die in a world full of presuppositionalist bullshit. So I don't waste energy on being all up in arms about it, anymore than I waste energy grousing about serialist modern classical music. It's easier to just not listen to it.