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Do you split the bill when you go on a date?

Redcupcoffee 7 May 28
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I don't go on dates.

Exactly. No dates, pregnancy only. And never, ever split the pregnancy.

@DZhukovin LOL. ?

@DZhukovin , is that a king Solomon joke?

@Beamdump2020 I certainly did not have that in mind

@DZhukovin ?

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It depends on the relationship. If someone asks me out on a date I guess I expect them to pay but I usually reciprocate at a future point. If I'm actually in a relationship it seems more fluid to share expenses. It has made me think though of situations when I do things with friends and it is always a pay for yourself thing and if one person is driving, either someone else pays tolls, parking, helps with gas, etc. I guess the whole guy always pays for dates goes back to the days when women didn't have money.

@AmelieMatisse as I have explained in other thread, I don't split or expect woman to pay the bill ever. That's how I was raised (My Mom taught me well ) but I have to say that you brought an interesting point that I never thought about....the days when woman didn't have any money. I think you are right and this little detail is probably overlooked most of the time. Interesting.

@IamNobody yeah there is still a disparity in wages between the genders but there are women who may make the same or more than the man they are dating. And also money is power so a man footing the bill all the time may go back to the time when men had more power over women. Whatever it signifies it most assuredly is representative of how culture used to be

@AmelieMatisse yes, it can be analyzed in so many different ways. My thought process always have been that if I am inviting then why does the woman have to pay....... Even on the exception (the story about the bar owner), I offer to pay and fought for it until she did put me in my place !! Ha ha..its one of my treasured memories.

@IamNobody I remember reading that one. Personally I think she was foolish as it would have been more $ in her cash register. But who knows, maybe some guy called her out for accepting.
I remember back a long time ago when I was a single mom with a minimum wage job, I sure couldn't pay my way let alone pay for both myself and a date for anything more than an ice cream cone. Anyone not ever experiencing that phenomenon in their life would have a hard time understanding those dynamics. Life experience help to form you into who you become, which can be good or bad for your emotional and mental well being.

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I always go into assuming I will pay my own

GwenC Level 7 May 28, 2018

That and never order anything I can't afford to pay for even if they're very clear that they're paying.

@PhoebeCat exactly

A healthy mindset going in

@PhoebeCat a good rule of thumb. They could turn into a total asshole then you're stuck. Smart lady doffs imaginary cap

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Whoever asked should pay for the date. Once a relationship starts, I prefer to alternate paying rather then split the bill each time.

AnneD Level 5 May 28, 2018

Good point!

Indeed. Of course, if the first date is coffee... I'm good to pay for that 🙂

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When i go on a date, i always pay the bill, its the man thing to do. I was taught that the man when on date should flip the bill period. Also on another side not, what ever happen to men being gentlemen. Opening doors, like the car door, the door the place you going, walking on the car side of the road? I was raised to do theses things. So many women get upset about the door thing all the time. drives me crazy. I new this lady once, she would race me to the door and back to the car door when we were done eating just so i couldn't open the doors for her. drove me crazy.

@jorj well i just started seeing a new g/f and she lets me be a gentlemen which is nice. i just think a man shoudl act like a man and be a man.

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Who asks should expect to pay, though, if the invitee prefers dutch, that is fine... Once dating regularly, dutch, taking turns, or the one with enough income pays, whichever approach works. I like dutch or turns if I really enjoy his company as we can get twice the number of dates that way! (:

I might add. I have had the guy absolutely insist on paying, despite my being able to, only to have him resent it later, or hold it over my head, or demand access to my body (usually a first or second date) because he paid for my dinner. That might explain why some other ladies feel strongly about paying their fair share (or not).

Zster Level 8 May 28, 2018

Exactly! There’s almost always an implied contract when someone gets weird about paying.

One time, after an awkward amount of time dickering in front of the waitress, I turned to her and said, “Make sure to give my bill to me.” You just want to get up and walk out when a completely new person tries to get forceful with you. No matter what it’s about.

Ive always understood body language. If theres a romantic hint and im feeling the same way...then i may ask. Its so easy to understand thats theres something there. Or a friend zone comment. I don't want to make out with a lady thats giving it up because she thinks she has to. Were not kids anymore. Act like an adult.

Exactly this. If I ask, I pay. If Dutch is offered, I'll happily accept. If I am asked, I usually offer to go Dutch, but accept their offer to pay.

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I agree that, preferably, who asks should pay, but the recipient should buy the popcorn, or pay for dessert, or for the tip. Offer to pay th next time. Try to reciprocate so as to establish one's independence and consideration for the other person. Reciprocity doesn't have to be financial, if not possible. General rule: Good people do not exploit other people.

Totally agree.

Wonderfully put

The other day on a day trip outing I paid for lunch and she paid for the chocolate milk shake later. Also it was her car so we're even.

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I will always offer to cover the bill, but I will also do what the other person is most comfortable with.

Am I seeing an epee in that profile pic?

@Deb57 Actually, it's a hand and a half bastard sword trainer. I'm learning German longsword fencing.

@speljamr Longsword? 13th/14th century style?

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Yes, I split my date.

That could hurt...

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If I ask them I pay. If they ask me and do not ask me if I want to go Dutch Treat then they pay and I leave the tip.

@Shelton I honestly thought those were "the rules" because that was what I was taught and it makes sense to me that if I am going to invite someone out I intend to pay too unless otherwise stated in advance.

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If I'm dating someone, I fully support splitting the check or alternating who pays.

If someone from a dating site asks to meet for the first time, I generally suggest something simple... maybe a drink or a cup of coffee... and I always offer to pay my share. But it kind of surprises me that they almost always take take the money. If I'm borderline about seeing the guy again, the fact that they can't pop for a cuppa coffee on a first date leaves me with a negative impression.

If you offer to pay, and then judge him when he lets you, I think your behavior is part of the communication problem between men and women. I think we should say what we mean and mean what we say.

@DinnerandaMovie Sorry... but we're not talking about lobster and champagne here. If we were, I'dbe happy to pay my share. I offer because it's the right thing to do, and the right thing for him to do is to say "I invited you, I've got this". And if he doesn't... then I'm sorry, but I am judging him just like you're judging me right now.

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Equality of the sexes has always become a mere ideal the moment the waiter presents the dinner check.

No woman has ever offered to pay, and I quietly resented that when I was dirt poor (just didn't date, could barely afford to buy food each week).

Once the money rolled in, I just tuned the whole concept out and reflexively threw my platinum card down the moment the check hit the table. I've been in that mindset since (Really? There are women who offer to pay? Where are these women?).

Still, there was that special, "new lawyer" dating phase -- when "lawyer income" first commenced and women expected pricier date venues (because all the lawyers on TV are rich, so "therefore" I must be rich, "so we're going out to nice places, right?" ). That's when I did some basic math and concluded: "Hey, if you don't date for just two months you can buy yourself a sweet surround-sound home theater."

That's when The Penis Doctrine (dems with the penis pay) periodically derailed me from the dating circuit because nice home furnishings became more valuable than dating pleasures. Only after I furnished my home the way I wanted did I resume Standard Retail Dating (which restaurant chains just love), but would occasionally pause to buy a new toy.

Now, I "get" part of the Penis Doctrine's rationale: Many a female isn't there just to cop a free meal. For them, picking up the check is the male's way of showing that he's authentically interested in her, or he's demonstrating his ability to provide, be a gentleman, blah-blah-blah.

I guess I'm grateful that, having come from the shit-poor segment of society, "that" (the financial pain of always picking up the check) aspect of dating is no longer an issue for me. But I've got to wonder how many guys simply exit the dating circuit, periodically or permanently, because of it.

I had a run there before I got married that featured a lot of the same thing, and I did put up with it. When I met my then future wife and she took me out to celebrate a raise and she picked up the tab, I was stunned and halfway in love right there and then! We did marry and had a great 28 year run ourselves. Though now divorced, we are still friends. That kind of behavior makes an impression, on me at least.

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Not dating..but when I did..the bill was mine..and only mine..I would have been alarmed and hurt if the lady tried to share the bill or even worse tried to pay for it.. I think it's probably a cultural thing here..but I can see it changing..

Precisely.

I strictly pay for my dates in beaver skins

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If I m not interested, I will let the server know to split the bill.
If she offers to handle the bill, I offer to handle the next bill.

Simple.

Did you know going in after asking for a date that you wouldn't be interested? Douchebag move if you go in cold then decide I'm not interested so pay up bitch.

@Xavier
Your comment was un-necessary and un-useful, a double threat guy. 😉

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I'm gay. Generally, my experience, at least in the "gay world", is that the bill is split unless otherwise determined before the date.

That's one benefit of being gay. There's no battle of the sexes.

@Ellatynemouth, Yeah. If I dated a woman it was usually a non-issue to either split the check or, if we kept dating, take turns picking it up.

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On a first meeting I offer to pay my own tab. In a dating relationship I either contribute towards the bill if he accepts it. If not i will cook very nice meals for him. My last relationship we went out one week and the following week we would stay in and I would cook. It worked well for us.

That's a good idea ?!

Yeah... equal sharing in all or most aspects of work and play is mutually satisfying, isn't it? Nice comfort zone where no one feels indebted to the other.

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1st date when I ASKED THEM out I cover it all we can workout how we pay in the following encounters

See that's a good rule right there. The inviting party should pay for suggested activities. The economy can be rough for some out there lately, but it bloody rude to frame a date around "how is your budget for entertainment this week".

If you invite to dinner or a movie, you should be ready to pony up, man or woman.

Exactly, I always pay for the first time out. From there on i have no problem her paying or splitting.

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I'd never go for a meal on a date, until we are a couple.

But I always offer to pay for drinks on a date (if I've asked her out). If she insists that she pays for a round occasionally then this is one tick in the box.

If she gets all shirty about me insisting on paying for a drink then I know she is going to be a problem, and I'll bail.

KenG Level 6 May 28, 2018

Shirty? That made me laugh.

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I don't ask around for dates if I'm already dating another lady. I don't date in my hometown. I would not have asked you if you had not have awakened the beast in me. The beast that tells me OMG , she beautiful.... A date to me is a beginning of a commitment. I don't date anyone else. I focus on you. I'm not a stalker. It's my respect for you. I have already thought about the desire to be with you and even wondered what sex would be like. If it doesn't seem right the first and or the second date then I politely don't lead you on and stop asking for another. The first date is asking you to spend time with me and let's have some fun and get to know each other. I don't ask because I want to have a one night stand. That would be nice but I don't expect it. That's to awkward for me anyway. If you accept a date with me, then I'm going to treat you for giving me the opportunity to see if your the one... does that make sense to you? Thinking more about it.... i wouldnt want a date with a lady that wanted to pay her own way. Thats not a date to me. Thats a casual meet up.

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Depends on the origin of the date. If I ask and she accepts, it's between her and me. I feel if I asked, I should pick up the tab. If the request was not as intimate as a date, and a discussion preceded the agreement, then going "dutch" would fine unless a different agreement was reached. I've had friends and I pay alternately for a light dinner before a movie and go dutch on tickets. Worked out fine. Things change when either romance or desire enter into the picture and hopefully would be apparent to both partup

Sorry, parties understand each other the nature of the relationship between them and how such things as money are accepted.

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I always offer to pay part of the bill when invited and refuse to accept money if I did the inviting.
If they want to help pay the bill, I'll have them leave the tip. I've discovered you can learn a lot about a person by the amount they tip on a free meal. If they don't leave at least 25%, I won't be paying for their meal ever again.

Interesting. I agree that the amount tipped speaks to how generous someone is in life.

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Yes. When we get the bill, that's when I split.

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Normally I just pay the bill. There are a few times when I’ve split it with someone else, and it makes me feel good when it’s mutual. Hate to anyone to split the bill. Guess I’m old school that way.

If it’s a double date or group of people, I’d rather pay just my portion (my date and I).

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I split the bill when I feel there is no future in it.

Dates are so depressing lol

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I'm kind of old school on this, The man should come with enough money to cover the bill, but if she is insistent on paying her half then He should respect Her without a hassle. As for subsequent courtship dates then the Man should always pay.

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