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This is that Monty Python Medieval Logic.

Stenz 6 Nov 11
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And if God weighs the same as a duck, he is a witch.

is god a witch? made of wood? weighs the same as a duck?

Does he float? Get the wood pile! Light it up!

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If she weighs the same as a duck, she's made of wood and therefore, A WITCH!

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Looks similar to what programmers often refer to G.I.G.O. (Garbage In Garbage Out). Statement (1) is false, so even if additive statement (2) is correct, statement (3) is built on previous false information and is false.

Better yet... I'm a CIO/CTO of a 9 figure company, whose owner believes "Macs are sent to earth by the devil" when picking out his new phone. (Because of the Apple logo - I'm guessing. I didn't stick around long enough to ask his reasoning after laughing and going red faced when he exclaimed, "No, I'm serious!" and gave me a death stare.)

@snrgevo Macs rule, PC's drool!

@Stenz I had a Mac and it went 'rotten to the core' inside 12 months, my present P.C. has been with me for well over 7 years now and it is NOT a Mac.

@Triphid I have a seven year old Mac I still use daily, and a five. I have a 20 year old one in the basement that still works. No PCS that age though, they are crap!

@Stenz Ah, but I'll bet you don't an IT Whizz Kid in your family like I'm fortunate enough to have.

@Triphid I'm an IT Professional, I am the IT whiz kid!

a bit of WYSIWYG too.... you see a dolt, you get a dolt. eh?

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What weighs more? A pound of god or a pound of hay? Serious answers only!

a pound is a pound the whole world round. 😉 i.e. they would be equal if a pound of god could be got.

A pound is a pound.

@Donna_I But a pound of nothing, which god is in fact, is still a pound of nothing and as such weighs exactly nothing, so hay would be heavier since hay actually exists.

well... since a fake belief system does not exist, only the hay has weight or exists in reality. eh ?

Trick question! A pound of god doesn't exist!

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  1. If Vulcans do not exist, Star Trek would not exist.
  2. Star Trek exists.
  3. Vulcans exist.

well of COURSE they do. sheesh!

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I took Thor's hammer... Just sayin...

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Just about sums it up!

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Wow! The leap believers have to make to think that makes any sense at all.

Yes, I think I've heard it called "god in the gaps"....if something hasn't quite been figured out by scientific methods, some folks insist on inserting 'god'. However, many social scientists have discovered morality in their studies of primates.... so we don't really require a supernatural explanation for morality (moral knowledge) or ethical behavior.

@mojo5501: And, the original post was evidently put out by a "Bible-believing" Christian who thinks her murdering, genocidal, misogynist, slavery-approving , hell-creating, god sets the standard for morality--pretzel logic.

There is no reason to think any god sets a standard for morality and every reason to think the god of the Bible is, by standards we have today, completely immoral.

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This ind of nonsense is why people need to learn more about logical fallacies This video lists ten of the most common logicl fallacies, but there are many dozens of them.

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Big difference, Monty Python was very funny, these are moronic.

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Sounds legit.

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Fiction has to make sense. However, reality does not.

Gohan Level 7 Nov 15, 2019
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Fantasy

bobwjr Level 10 Nov 14, 2019
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I love the self declared logicians amongst apologist wannabes. It's like they accidentally read half a page from a logic book & legit think these are compelling arguments.

nicely said.

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Trump voter?

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Christ logic: DENIED

WHO ????

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Well heck... Now I am picturing "The Inquisition" sketch!

I was picturing this sketch:

@BD66 I got better.

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How can you doubt the existence of Thor? I've seen Chris Hemsworth. He carries that hammer like a pro...

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The Capturing Christ tag is worrying. I foresee a hunting expedition the likes of which Wile E. Coyote would find pathetic.

The church down the road has a sign that says “Pursuing Jesus.” I always get the image of Jesus running and looking worriedly over his shoulder at a bunch of pursuing worshipers.

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Well, geeze, there's food, so 24,000 chlidren could not have died of hunger today.

and there's rain, so there's no drought, and there's SOME polar ice caps... so the big melt CAN't be happening...

oh... and if we descended from chimpanzees... how are there still chimpanzees?

whle we're at it... don't use solar panels... they use up the sun.

(if you are not clear, these are all tongue in cheek, yet the evangelicals in usa believe this bullsh**)

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Premise one is a bit sketchy.

either of them are not sketchy ? are you being serious?

@lakota_5 Yes. The second premise is solid though. Unfortunately you need both to be true both to draw a conclusion.

@indirect76 ok dear.

@lakota_5 You don’t think moral knowledge or thunder exists?

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Nee - shh

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Yet, there is always a rebuttal! And even when it makes no sense, the person on the other side of the argument act as if it makes all the sense in the world.

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The actual logic is good in both cases. That is, "(1)If not-P then not-Q, and (2)Q, therefore (3)P" is a valid argument form, so if we accept the truth of (1) and (2) we are logically committed to the truth of (3). However, since most of us at least do not accept premise (1) in either example, these arguments provide no reason for us to accept the conclusion (3). They are VALID but not SOUND.

@K9Kohle789 Oh no, the logic is just fine! Logic has to do with the “form” of the argument, and the form used for both is valid. What you criticize is the “content,” but false (or meaningless) content is not the fault of the form—i.e. of the logic.

I suppose you are just using “logic” in a broader sense, but that’s not the standard, textbook definition. Check it out.

@K9Kohle789 No, False Analogy and False Dichotomy are informal fallacies and Monty Python did not make either in the examples. It (they) simply took a valid logical form and put false (or meaningless) premises into it. That’s my position and I’m sticking to it!! Of course, you can create a logically valid proof of ANY falsehood if you start with the relevant false premise(s)—and Monty Python was good at doing that.

I’ll message you further.

@K9Kohle789 the argument is modus tollens format and is logically valid. In logic, valid arguments can have false premises and false conclusions. Validity, as was mentioned, is concerned only with whether the conclusion is logical given the premises. It is a logically valid argument, but not logically sound.

o no no no no no just no.

if you are going to postulate some sort of mathematical theorem, then USE either numbers or other symbols, not "faith" bullshit.

of course Thor existing is FAR more believable than "god" existing. IMHO

@K9Kohle789 I agree with you that it's not a logic table. I also agree that Spock would agree because it's a modus tollens argument, not a table. 😉

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