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Who has been the most influential Atheist/Agnostic famous person for you? How and why?

I would like some recommendations of things to see or read.

DavidLaDeau 8 Feb 22
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Rod Serling-creator of the TV series The Twilight Zone.

I will have tonlook him up thank you!

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read Yuval Harari's "Sapiens"

Never heard of it. I thought I knew most but people are bringing up alot ths I don't know about. So much for being a know it all!

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Dawkins,Harris and Hitchins are all good and I would recommend "In defence of Atheism" by Michel Onfray

Onfray seemed to me an odd choice since, despite having previously seen in some lists of the kind he's ranked in the top ten of current atheists in influence, everything I'd looked up was in French (videos, some books). But based on your rec I was able to find some quotes in English and intend delve a little deeper.

@Rossy92 I actually have never heard of him. Let me know what you find please.

@DavidLaDeau Found some quotes here to start us off [goodreads.com]

@Rossy92 Thanks buddy!

@Rossy92 His book "in defence of atheism" has been translated to English and I found a copy on Amazon. Very readable and interesting

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LIVING WITHOUT RELIGION: EUPRAXOPHY BY PAUL KURTZ

[ifarus.com]

Growing up Godless : a parent's guide to raising kids without religion
Author: Deborah Mitchell

[worldcat.org]

Two new ones to me, thank you!

@DavidLaDeau

And, I take great pride in mentioning that I'm quoted in Mitchell's book under my nom de plume (LanceThruster - first names only so "Lance." ).

:-----:

"I see a pattern where the randomness of human actions can be directed through probability for an overall cumulative and positive effect. All throughout our society there is a butterfly effect that we are most always oblivious to… I guess my message is to go boldly forth and increase the peace and love and know you are not alone. You may not always be aware of the others choosing to follow this same path as you, but they’re out there, and they’re making a difference.”

~ LanceThruster

[from Debbie Mitchell's book "Growing Up Godless" - Sterling Publishing Co., Inc.]

And Paul Kurtz was my largely own personal introduction to humanist activism as I was with him on several occasions at the formation of CFI - West.

[humanists.international]

@WilliamCharles Awesome!

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I was brought up in a religious family and attended a Baptist grade school. I figured it out myself as a young teenager. Lived in the rain forest in Kona Hawaii for most of my middle age and didn't really hear of the great Agnostics like Robert Ingersoll, George Carlin or Richard Dawkins and so many more until I was in my fifties. They didn't influence me by then it was just nice to know I wasn't alone and wasn't wrong.

Affirmation of the conclusions I came to on my own without knowing there were books out there was huge for me!

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Hitchens for sure! I'd say stick to the four horsemen for alot of answers, then branch out to others like Seth Andrews, AaroRa, David Silverman, people like that. Bill Nye and Carl Sagan are great also... I hope this helps.

Hitchens may have been one of the most intelligent people alive. We will use his qoutes for many years to come.

@DavidLaDeau yeah! It's too bad i didn't get to meet him personally. I can late to the atheist movement, so I had to catch up. When he had his god is not great book tour, he came through Alabama, and even had a debate in Birmingham. If I would've known him back then, I would've for sure went to it.

@godlessinal It is the same for me. I have only been very active in the last two or three years, He is the one person I would have REALLY wanted to have a conversation with. Well mostly asking questiins and doing a lot of note taking!

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Richard Dawkins' "The God Delusion".

He was not so much influential in me becoming an atheist (that happened 30 years previously), but I found his perspective enlightening.

I had been an atheist for many years when I read his book. For me it simply connected a lot of dots that needed connecting.

@DavidLaDeau You put it most excellent well (to borrow an 18th century English turn of phrase).

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I don't know about influential, but I like Dan Barker and Dave Barry.

Dan is Great! I do not know the other fellow.

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Hitchens!

Hitchens! My personal favorite!

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The lectures of Robert Green Ingersoll, as read by Michael Scott Earl (http://reasonworks.com). Ingersoll was a brilliant orator and forward thinker, and Mike Earl's readings of his speeches, and The Age of Reason by my avatar, as well as some of his own essays, opened and then completely blew my mind.

I do alot of research. His name comes up verry often but I have not studied him specifically. It is much like Nitche in the Bible Scholarship community.

@DavidLaDeau Ingersoll was unique in his time; a late 19th century iconoclast who dared to attack religion, advocate for civil rights as well as the rights of women. An excellent intro to this giant, who was heard in person by more citizens than any other celebrity or politician of his age, is found in the book by Susan Jacoby, "The Great Agnostic: Robert Ingersoll and American Freethought." I highly recommend this book.

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Robert Heinlein, hands down. It’s difficult to pick a single book, but Stranger in a Strange Land is up there. The most influential for me was Starship Troopers. And Friday. And most of the things he wrote.

What types of books does he write aside of Starship Troopers?

@DavidLaDeau Mostly science fiction

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Person for me. . . I fgured out faith based assertions (religion) was BS when I was young (before reading books that supported my observation) but I'll agree with the list noted in the 50 comments below. I enjoy most all of those noted.

To add to the list I would include Edware Tarte. He spent 5 years as a Catholic priest then came to the conclusion religion was BS.

To find his videos youtube edward tarte catholic and you will find the play list. . . rather informative. Good to see things from both sides of the fence.

Example:

After a long back and forth with a Catholic who I was de-converting. . . His last argument to retain his fear of hell was his belief that Catholic priests are ordained by god so there must be a god. Edward's videos were the straw that finally broke his faith over fact camel's back. He thanked me many times from allowing him to sleep at night and no longer awake in fear of burning in hell. . .. that and be able to enjoy the diversity of people his church had conditioned him to fear. Edward is most helpful. I have used his advice (e-mailed him) to clarify a rather insidious Catholic vs reason point.

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Well. Since I was never a believer. I was not brought up in a religious home.
I never really had a 'Champion' so to speak to look up to in my non- belief.
Most of the people I look up to are more about Science. Hawking, Newton, Dawkins, etc.

But. I've had plenty that I've admired for putting things in a perspective about non- belief. Hitch, Dawkins, DarkMatter2525, Harris, Carlin. and quite a few more.

They are all great!

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YouTube star Darkmatter2525 for all his interesting and thought provoking reasons as to why a Gid cannot exist, and convey this in a consumable format.

But also Carl Sagan and Stephen Hawking because they have both provided irrefutable scientific evidence of not requiring a God to explain the universe, and are able to explain this to laypeople.

Darkmatter2525 is one of the very best atheist youtube channels!

@DavidLaDeau I know and I just love the narrative around his stories, and his animation quality.

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"The Center for Inquiry " has alot of Info about over all belief systems. Most " famous people " are products of thier Time and the battles they were forced to wage to get the message they believe TRUE and UP TO DATE to the public. That's the way it works- a simple fact . So the newer and more relavent info is being acted on NOW by a wide variety of
disciplines and specialties of education.
Cognitive scientists ; philosophers; physicists; and phsycolgists- are all arriving at some ground changing conclusions about about the human condition.
That said : I listen to more science based revelations about what we know now , being Athiest is a step down a road that
allows a JOURNEY to take place!!! They compliment each other; saying there is no god - but leaving out the context is empty to me / I want to know why I faced the culture I was born into.
CarlSagan ; Dawkins; Neil Degrass Tyson;Brian Greene; Sam Harris & Anna Harris and the list GROWS WEEKLY.
THANKS !!!

The list does grow every day!

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Darwin's Bulldog.

Thank you I will lokkinto his stuff! Google popped it right up!

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Hitchens, Hawkins, Harris, Dawkins, Dennett. Maybe I should have stated with Carl Sagan. Today I identify with many atheists around the world including Bertrand Russell. I remember a time that I cut my teeth on things like "Our Haunted Planet" by John A. Keel.

Thank you I have read them all, very likely much to your personal suggestions over the years. Thank you. You are one that I might mention on my lost. Thank you for helping me to grow! I wish I could pin this as the first comment like I can on my Youtube channel.

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You got a good list there, should keep you in reading for a while. But since all the best ones have been mentioned a couple of times at least, I will add just a couple of outfielders. Andre Comte-Sponville, THE BOOK OF ATHEIST SPIRITUALITY, and H. G. Wells, THE OUTLINE OF HISTORY, for a secular overview of history and especially its religions.

Wow that is great thank you! H. G. Wells? Wow!

The Wells book sounds especially enticing.

@Rossy92 A lot of the science and history in it is now very out of date, but it is a wonderful overview still and a great read.

@Allamanda Mine was about £8-50p, paperback.

@Allamanda Can try.

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I'm going with Kurt Vonnegut Jr. He taught me that intelligence is an evolutionary mistake and will kill us. He alleviated me of my death fear, for if it's inevitable then one must get comfy with it, and making me laugh while doing it. To be serious, I feel that I know humans much better than I would have without reading him.

Thank you I will have to look him up!

@DavidLaDeau The book I refer to was Galapagos. It remains my favorite book of all time. Sirens Of Titan and Cat's Cradle are also recommended.

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Alan Watts!

Alan Watts and Baba Ram Das because in the late 60’s in religious boarding schools it was rhapsodic heresy.

I will look him up thank you!

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My friend Jenny from Seventh grade who was the first person who ever talked to me about the reasons she questioned the belief in a God .This opened up my mind like never before and I stoped blindly believing in things without logically thinking about what I was being told.

What a great friend.

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Hitch set forth the most convincing arguments. Seth Andrews and Matt Dillahunty were the most inspiring and demonstrated the most courage, as both were dyed in the wool religious

I came from a devout background too, aand almost became a preacher.

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I can't say that I truly identify with any specific atheist or agnostic. I arrived at my absence of religious belief on my own.

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AronRa. Watch his videos. He covers everything in full detail.

Aron is amazing in his presentations! I have learned so much from his videos!

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Sagan for a start and then deep dive on the 4 horsemen.

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