@Triphid Thank you for replying.

1. Dictionaries don't define the words, the user does. So, we have to go by how the person who submitted this poll defined it for us.
2. You say an atheist is "one who refutes/denies, etc, the existence/s of any and all God/Gods/Divine Supreme Beings what-so-ever." I agree with you except that one can be atheist toward a specific god if used that way. I am in no way an atheist by this definition.
3. Because something was hashed out in the past is not reason for it to not be hashed out now.
4. We are not trying to determine something from the past. We are determining the meaning of terms for our communication in the present. It is very important to note the difference between atheist and agnostic. I am agnostic, but not at all atheist. To me, atheism is more harmful than theism itself. I do not want to ally with people who believe things to be absolutely a certain way without proof. But, my theory is that people who claim they are atheist don't really deny the existence of all gods.

@Untheist Well, for starters I perceive by a quick look at your Profile Blurb that you identify as being both Agnostic and Religious, how precisely can that be since, logically speaking, Agnostic means " Nothing can be known about God, etc, etc, i.e. it simply implies/means that as an Agnostic you are unsure, uncertain, have doubts about the existence of God and yet you also claim, by way of stating you are Religious, you believe there is a God.
Ergo and imo, your comments make as much, logically, to me as if you were trying to tell me that day is night and night is day.
So I simply reject your assertions for the fallacies and faulty interpretations that they appear to be in my opinion.

Sorry to hear that I am incompatible with Triphid. He is NOT incompatible with me and I hope in the future we can join together in support of that which we agree.

'Religious' does not mean anything about belief. It's refers to your participation in ritual. For instance, a church-going Christian is religious, but may have no belief at all that an actual zomby will return to devour the souls of the 'lucky'.

He did not ask me what i meant by 'religious'. If I'm the one answering the question, we would use my definition of the word, unless it was stated by 'agnostic.com' when i signed up, which it was not.

A philosophy i participate in is Agnosticism and i want Agnostics to develop a set of rituals that are compatible with reality and use that as the foundation for rituals that we, through evolution, require. That's a religion. If you're against religion, you're really not. You're just against religions with certain characteristics. For instance, marriage almost always reverts to a harmful religion for it's rituals. Parents unwittingly allow their children to be indoctrinated.

Agreed. The point I was trying to make earlier in the post.

Did you just slam "Semantics"? How dare you? ,,,,,,,,They are the best doo-wop band ever.

Why does your comment remind of "Hotel California"?

Agreed.

I just spent two hours thinking trying to answer your question. I didn't know it was rhetorical.............

A choice of two is a choice of four: one, the other, both, or neither. We should always allow for these expressions.

@Untheist very true but still limited. I think that whenever we create boxes we limit our imaginations, our expression and definitions. I hate boxes.

Good point. Updated the poll. Thanks!

Hey stop that. You know we can see you, right?

@PondartIncbendog Yup! Can't stop it! I'm too attracted to him!

You need to get out. You're looking stressed.

@PondartIncbendog ☺

Are you calling your dog?

@PondartIncbendog WOOF!

@anglophone Hey! Ya gonna vote for me up there ? ^^

@PondartIncbendog What? Are you suggesting that I should vote?

@anglophone Yeah!

@PondartIncbendog Suggestion declined.

(It least that isn't as bad as seeing "Transaction declined" on an EFTPOS machine.)

I usually don't give a rats pitoot! But when interacting with some people it make it go faster/easier. That is when I need to talk and get a point across or a thing done. But I let it take long enough to annoy them. By neither confirming or denying you deprive them of a target.

many years ago I needed a minor surgery. I went for my preflight check. The woman saw my ankh about the time she was asking my religion, (so if you suddenly look like death, they call the right shaman). She said oh christian, or Catholic. I said no, she said oh that's an egyption cross! I corrected her with no, it is an ancient Egyption Ankh. She then laughed, blew that off in mock disgust. I sat up straight told her I worshipped the Sun, every day, as is proper. And my silly old thing was a reveared religious symbol 3 Thousand Years before that Jewish fellow you claim existed was declared a God.

At that point she froze, she realized I would not accept her obnoxious comments about any beliefs I may have.

She was deer in headlights frozen.

I said , my wife is Catholic I am sure if I am near death she would want a priest, that is no issue, but I do not believe in any god you can name. OK?

She got her wits about herself, and finished my intake.

@praytothemilkjug one should give the sun praise each day as we would be up a creek with out it!
I am glad surgery went well!

Labels, tribes,,,they all need definition or they are worthless. Lots of it.

@PondartIncbendog Defined or not still worthless.

I have said this before, labelling Athiest as a belief system is like calling "off" a TV channel

Thanks for your vote Cyk!

Thank Veronica.

@VeronikaAnnJ I read too many comic books as a kid.

Com'on Folks! I need your votes! I want second place!

@VeronikaAnnJ Betty was a dish!

@VeronikaAnnJ You already did. Thumbs up. We are in third place!!!! Yay!

@VeronikaAnnJ I think I got one stuck in my tire in the desert.

@VeronikaAnnJ It didn't make any noise when I ran over it and didn't lose a pound of air.

I just did. Lost the original vote counts though. I tried to capture them in a comment. Hopefully that helps. :/

I am the God of Hellfire,,,,,,,,,I think,,,,,,,,,,,or magnetic tape...........

@PondartIncbendog 6250 bpi nrzi, perhaps?

@anglophone I don't discuss personal matters. I'm kinda biased............LOL

@PondartIncbendog Please, PLEASE, stop stealing my write rings!

@anglophone If you'd stay off my track this wouldn't happen.

@PondartIncbendog But punched paper tape was much more fun! Did you ever play 1,000 card pickup?

@anglophone Saw em. Worked on mag core memory. That cap board would age ya a few if you got across it.

@anglophone Worked on this in the AF.

@PondartIncbendog That brings back memories: a 4K (24 bit words) memory box that measured 10" on all three sides. (Today's kids have never had it so good - to paraphrase Harold Macmillan.)

@anglophone Ha. I worked on some of the first 10k drives. I think we called them winchesters? Should we start a group "identify this piece of vintage electronics"?

@anglophone What was the application for the memory box?

@PondartIncbendog Perhaps we should. I worked in one place that had what we called (multi-platter) "cake stands".

@PondartIncbendog An old ICL 4130. The first one I encountered was at university (1972-1974), and later at a zinc smelter where the same model ran the plant process control system until it was retired in the late 1980s. I got one of the memory banks for free and took it home.

@anglophone I've seen those. I started a group, lets see how it goes. Lots of retired techs and engineers here.

@anglophone The group is pending. Its called Vintage Electronics and old farts.

@PondartIncbendog Thanks for the heads up.

@anglophone please tell me that zinc smelter wasn't in Pt Pirie. I worked on the computers that ran that plant from '86.

@Cyklone Sorry, I cannot answer your question directly without giving away my identity. Let's just say that the two companies that you and I both worked for were once owned by the same global holding company.

@anglophone gotcha.