We don't have a word for non-believers of Santa Claus or non-believers of The Tooth Fairy, yet we live in a world where those who don't believe in God(s) or supernatural religious philosophies are labelled Atheists. I think that the state of non-believing is the normal state of things as it doesn't need to be taught, unlike religions. I am consequently uncomfortable with using the word and I feel that I concede grounds to their insanity when I use it. What are your thoughts?
I say I’m Agnostic. I have no clue what happened to create the Universe. There are lots of great theories. I tend to latch on to the science ones. I also disbelieve the religious stuff I’ve been told. But do I truly know?... I don’t! So I say Agnostic, and I’m 99% sure that is where I will stay.
I'm totally comfortable with the word when other people are using it to describe themselves. I don't even mind if they use it to describe me, but I don't use it to describe myself. It seems more legitimate to me to redefine god than to redefine myself. I don't need a label, beyond 'human'. God, on the other hand, deserves some rethinking.
Atheist needs to be replaced. It engenders a much too easy knee-jerk response from those who are willing to kill you, in the name of God, of course. Our English language is based on Christian Mythological assumption that continue to serve the cause of the Religious Right. It is an uphill battle that will not be easily won. No, I am not comfortable with it.
If anything I would describe myself as 'anti-faith'. The scientific method/reason/logic are the best tools we have to understand ourselves and the world around us and faith doesn't fit into that worldview at all. I haven't tried it out much but maybe 'anti-faith' could catch on. I guess to make a positive statement you could say you're 'pro-scientific method'? But then again if I just want to say something short and sweet I just say 'Atheist'. I don't always have the energy...
I prefer not to use it to describe myself because not only is it not really accurate, but also because most people assume I'm going to start ranting about science and try to make them feel stupid. I've come across some atheists myself who are just as rabidly atheist as some religious people are with their beliefs.
However, a lot of times, using one of my other words, like antitheist, is more likely to promote discussion, or at least an explanation.
To me, atheism does not really make sense - because it requires an absolute certainty that no God exists. I don't claim to know that with absolute certainty - we don't know where the Universe and everything in it came from, how it was created, etc.. so I think that "the jury is still out" on whether there is actually a "supreme being" of some sort who might have created everything. That's why I'm an agnostic- I don't claim to know.
The fact that you can’t absolutely prove something doesn’t give it grounds for existence. You can’t prove that there isn’t a population of super intelligent squirrels living on one asteroid in the Kieber belt but I think we can all rationalize that they aren’t there.
I am a person, athiest refers to the relationship to religon.
when speaking with other non believers, the word used most often is “rationalist.” Theists use the word “atheist” because they really don’t know any better. When one speaks with a theist, one uses terms with which they are familiar, in the same way that one uses French when speaking with someone who only speaks French. I don’t believe I am conceding anything to them when they call me atheist. I’ve been called a lot worse. It’s just that use of logic and reason are foreign concepts to them...they simply know no other way.
I don't identity with the word "atheists" i like to identify with the term "non believer".
I am very comfortable with the word "Atheist". I have been one for most of my life and am almost 70 now. I have the right to think what I choose and don't intend to hide or shrink from my beliefs. If someone doesn't like it, they need to leave me alone. I have lost what I thought were friends over my beliefs but would rather that then continually giving away pieces of me to keep those people around. I tell people who harrass me about it that I intend to get cremated since I'll probably have to get used to the "heat"! It throws them off guard and shuts them up.
I have to agree with you on that. I am 65 and have been an Atheist for 58 of those years. So it's all I know. I do not know where you are from, but I grew up in southern Arkansas, and it's a LOT better now , than it was back in the 60's and 70's!
I embrace the word atheist and see agnostic as the argument of how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. But I gladly claim atheist as most people understand the world. Where agnostic is somewhat misunderstood and seen as a wiggle word by both religious and non-religious.
I'm 99.9999% sure there is no god. I don't have a dog in the contest and if there was proof, then I would go where the evidence leads. But I'm damn sure that what Christians think is their god is as far from the truth as Donald Trump has a good brain!
It's scary to me because I live in Texas. I've had to pretend all my life to get by here with people in general. If most of my neighbors knew, I think my house would at least be egged. I have to kind of feel people out before I can say the truth. So I belong to a couple of atheist meetups where everyone is a non believer.
Pretending seems like a very reasonable strategy if you live in a place like Texas, which I have done in the past. I lived in El Paso some years ago. With their Sunday blue laws and their penchant for violence, I can empathize with you.
Very. And I'm happy enough with "heathen", "unbeliever", "hellbound liberal'....