Agnostic.com
6
6 Like Show
OH GOD NOOOOOO [radiotimes.com]
genessa comments on Jun 5, 2019:
rumors about rumors about rumors about rumors. what i want to know isn't whether rose is coming back but whether doctor who is coming back. g
genessa replies on Jun 5, 2019:
@altschmerz i hope so. i miss it! g
Today I am thankful for the churches.
genessa comments on Jun 5, 2019:
it is good that you have loving people around. they tend to gather in their churches so that's where they are when they organize aid. it isn't really a matter of their religion, or they would be the only ones, but muslims and jews and atheists are helping elsewhere, as needed, too, and not just ...
genessa replies on Jun 5, 2019:
@273kelvin some churches may do that; i know that both synagogues i've been to locally do. however, the best food shelf in my entire metro area has no religious connection whatsoever. so it's not the churches that do it. churches are AMONG those who do it. g
Today I am thankful for the churches.
genessa comments on Jun 5, 2019:
it is good that you have loving people around. they tend to gather in their churches so that's where they are when they organize aid. it isn't really a matter of their religion, or they would be the only ones, but muslims and jews and atheists are helping elsewhere, as needed, too, and not just ...
genessa replies on Jun 5, 2019:
@Unity what if the supermarket didn't, but the people shopping there did? assume that supermarkets were a meeting place rather than a place we all cruise up and down the aisles in our own little bubbles. g
Today I am thankful for the churches.
greyeyed123 comments on Jun 5, 2019:
The churches aren't doing anything. The people who belong to them are doing something. People can do all kinds of good things.
genessa replies on Jun 5, 2019:
@Unity they represent themselves. g
A couple of times, in the movie, "Religulous," Atheist, Bill Maher, is asked, "What if you're ...
genessa comments on Jun 5, 2019:
if i am wrong -- which i feel so certain i am not that this is merely a thought exercise, not a plan -- consider the following: 1. if there is a god (singular) and it's a good god, it doesn't care whether i believed in it. 2. if there is a bad god i'm screwed anyway because a bad god is ...
genessa replies on Jun 5, 2019:
@icolan i am still afraid of nonexistence, even though rationally i know it doesn't hurt because i won't exist. i just feel sorry NOW, because i do exist. but i might change my tune if i had to relive groundhog day, or heaven. g
I've posted this before but every time I do I get berated for doing so.
genessa comments on Jun 3, 2019:
i don't know about christians and muslims. i can tell you that the jewish god, who is not named yahweh and whose name religious jews do not say (or print), is noncoporeal and has more than one gender (google "shekinah"). since there is no such thing as a god anyway, and since there are literally ...
genessa replies on Jun 5, 2019:
@EdwinMcCravy so your problem is you've seen a picture of a unicorn but you don't understand the word "shekinah." so look it up. just because YOU don't know the definition don't assume there IS no definition. your claim is ridiculous. g
I've posted this before but every time I do I get berated for doing so.
ownworstenemy comments on Jun 3, 2019:
Maybe you could try reading the bible for your answer!
genessa replies on Jun 5, 2019:
@EdwinMcCravy some people believe in zeus. he is a bearded fellow who lives on top of a mountain and occasionally comes down to where humans live, disguises himself as something or other, and rapes innocent women, who then bear him demigods. his major characteristic, which he shares with all gods, is being totally fictional. do i know him personally? no, since he's fictional. have you really never heard of him? he was quite popular a couple millennia ago. g
The question is, "Does the DNC really want to beat Trump?" [salon.com]
genessa comments on Jun 3, 2019:
this is how i answered this in another group: no, the question is do WE really want to beat trump. we have control over whom we choose in the primaries. the problem is, we're worried about who is electable instead of who we think will be the best president. the media keeps telling us biden and ...
genessa replies on Jun 5, 2019:
@mcgeo52 i wasn't counting seconds and it's early days yet too. g
We have a guy our company does business with today pray with me.
genessa comments on Jun 5, 2019:
you do what feels right to you but i would not have come away from such a thing with positive feelings myself. he believes what he believes and he is entitled. but he decided that he would take a step toward changing what YOU do or do not believe. that is different. i would've found that ...
genessa replies on Jun 5, 2019:
okay here is what i wrote (within the past couple weeks): today was a weird day on many levels, but one had to do with religion. religion is not something that generally impacts my life at all. thrice a week my guy and i spend a few hours at an adult daycare which is run in conjunction with, while not being a part of, a jewish senior housing/rehab/assisted living/memory care facility. that facility provides the lunches for the daycare, so the lunches (and dishware) are kosher, but people of all beliefs and lack thereof attend (not to mention that the facility also does not discriminate). sometimes we go over to the facility for musical and other entertainment, and that tends to veer toward jewish (and russian) culture, because that's what most of the residents like. most of us are not residents (my guy and i are not). we celebrate the jewish holidays (loosely) but when st. patrick's day rolls around we do stuff related to that, too; we're easy. so it's not a religious experience. my guy and i are jewish. i'm an atheist; my jewishness is cultural. he is a believer, but only in a vague way. he knows less about judaism than i do lol. i think this was true BEFORE he was afflicted with alzheimer's, which is why we go to the daycare at all (he won't go regularly without me). we had a new client today,a gentleman in a wheelchair, apparently due to a stroke (i don't know how recent) and possibly epilepsy (he wasn't clear about that). i could tell he was somewhat mentally impaired, beyond the effects of the stroke. he was eager to converse and i indulged him, though he was repetitious and somewhat boring. if he's going to be a regular, i guess it wouldn't hurt for us to get to know one another. however, at one point he suddenly brought jesus into the mix, and continued to do so in a more and more pressing way, until i could not avoid telling him that i was not a person who worshiped jesus (i did not put it that way). he was aghast. i had to repeat myself because he couldn't believe i didn't worship jesus. i told him my guy and i were jewish. he wanted to know to whom, if we didn't believe in jesus, we prayed. "i don't pray," i said, "but richard does. he prays to god." the guy's jaw dropped further. i asked him, "haven't you ever met a jew before?" he shook his head very slowly. (this was odd because he had told me he'd visited israel. how do you visit israel and not meet a jew?) i reached out my hand and with a big smile said "how do you do!" he hesitated but then he smiled too. for a second, though, it looked as if he wasn't even going to take my hand! he did so, and smiled, and said "weird." that sort of ended the conversation, but later, when our music therapist came in and we were talking about elvis, the new guy piped up and said that he didn't call ...
we are still a very small group, so i won't expect that anyone here happens to be from kentucky, but...
vertrauen comments on Jun 4, 2019:
I am in Kentucky, and I'm eager, of course, to Ditch Mitch! That said, I'm not yet galvanized into action. I burnt out a bit trying to stop Kavanaugh. I do have a Kentucky friend I met here 18 months ago who is very much the tireless activist. She doesn't come here much but I can reach her through ...
genessa replies on Jun 4, 2019:
good! absolutely go for it! and if while ditching mitch you can find he still has the vestiges of testicles anywhere on his turtlish body, feel free to land a good strong kick. g
Republicans threaten revolt, may block Trump's Mexico tariffs GOP senators left a closed-door ...
genessa comments on Jun 4, 2019:
they spent almost their ENTIRE LUNCH working on this? oh the feels! they may not be able to go home on thursday for their four-day weekend. i am sending them thoughts and prayers. g
genessa replies on Jun 4, 2019:
@Freedompath i'm an old people myself and i hope i am nothing like those assholes! it's not their age. look at rbg! it's their assholery. g
They say there is someone for everyone...
TheDoubter comments on Jun 4, 2019:
he has never claimed royal heritage. maybe now he will
genessa replies on Jun 4, 2019:
i wonder how many would dispute a claim he made that he has human heritage? g
The question is, "Does the DNC really want to beat Trump?" [salon.com]
genessa comments on Jun 3, 2019:
this is how i answered this in another group: no, the question is do WE really want to beat trump. we have control over whom we choose in the primaries. the problem is, we're worried about who is electable instead of who we think will be the best president. the media keeps telling us biden and ...
genessa replies on Jun 4, 2019:
@mcgeo52 i see coverage. don't you? g
Why do you use agnostic.com?
genessa comments on Jun 3, 2019:
i like it because, although there are proportionately just as many pugnacious punks and ignorant idiots here as on facebook, there are also proportionately just as many cool folks, and they're not the same cool folks i know on facebook, so i've expanded my reach and my reachability, both. in ...
genessa replies on Jun 4, 2019:
@Bigwavedave lol who is genes? i have never seen a thoughts and prayers button. g
I've posted this before but every time I do I get berated for doing so.
ownworstenemy comments on Jun 3, 2019:
Maybe you could try reading the bible for your answer!
genessa replies on Jun 3, 2019:
which one? g
Should atheists have to do jury duty?
callmedubious comments on Jun 2, 2019:
i got out of jury duty once by replying that i was suicidal & could not care less about their petty, insignificant shit.
genessa replies on Jun 3, 2019:
@callmedubious that is somewhat irrelevant to the issue though. g
The question is, "Does the DNC really want to beat Trump?" [salon.com]
genessa comments on Jun 3, 2019:
this is how i answered this in another group: no, the question is do WE really want to beat trump. we have control over whom we choose in the primaries. the problem is, we're worried about who is electable instead of who we think will be the best president. the media keeps telling us biden and ...
genessa replies on Jun 3, 2019:
@mcgeo52 i wasn't looking at the tv because i was typing to you. while i was typing, chris hayes was talking to john hickenlooper. the hour before, which i missed, was at least partly, maybe all, devoted to mayor pete, i think. i missed it. but i have seen many of the candidates, some famous, some less famous, interviewed and discussed on msnbc, and they're not done yet lol. g
The question is, "Does the DNC really want to beat Trump?" [salon.com]
genessa comments on Jun 3, 2019:
this is how i answered this in another group: no, the question is do WE really want to beat trump. we have control over whom we choose in the primaries. the problem is, we're worried about who is electable instead of who we think will be the best president. the media keeps telling us biden and ...
genessa replies on Jun 3, 2019:
@mcgeo52 okay so what suggests to you that they're telling the media whom to cover? i am seeing everyone covered. g
The question is, "Does the DNC really want to beat Trump?" [salon.com]
genessa comments on Jun 3, 2019:
this is how i answered this in another group: no, the question is do WE really want to beat trump. we have control over whom we choose in the primaries. the problem is, we're worried about who is electable instead of who we think will be the best president. the media keeps telling us biden and ...
genessa replies on Jun 3, 2019:
@mcgeo52 okay, there are people who believe that happened and that this is happening now. i am not one of those people. but what do you propose, then? not voting in the primaries? not voting at all? voting third part as a protest and to hell with the results? what IS your plan? g
The question is, "Does the DNC really want to beat Trump?" [salon.com]
genessa comments on Jun 3, 2019:
this is how i answered this in another group: no, the question is do WE really want to beat trump. we have control over whom we choose in the primaries. the problem is, we're worried about who is electable instead of who we think will be the best president. the media keeps telling us biden and ...
genessa replies on Jun 3, 2019:
@SiouxcitySue thank you kindly! g
Should atheists have to do jury duty?
Amisja comments on Jun 3, 2019:
In UK there is no swearing on the bible/qoran etc you just swear to tell the truth.
genessa replies on Jun 3, 2019:
you do not have to swear on a bible here either. one is asked to swear or affirm. no bible is involved. the fuss is over nothing here. g
Should atheists have to do jury duty?
Mb_Man comments on Jun 2, 2019:
I suppose that I would have seen this as problematic in the past, in my atheist heyday. Particularly when I was in the closet and it seemed that EVERYTHING was screaming Christ from every direction. But now, it's more a matter of who cares. Yeah . . . it's problematic and should be done away ...
genessa replies on Jun 3, 2019:
all that including the fact that you wouldn't have to swear anyway. g
Should atheists have to do jury duty?
callmedubious comments on Jun 2, 2019:
i got out of jury duty once by replying that i was suicidal & could not care less about their petty, insignificant shit.
genessa replies on Jun 3, 2019:
that is for the best, because if i were falsely accused of murder and my life depended on how much the jury cared, i would not want to make my case to a juror who considered my life to be petty, insignificant shit. g
Should atheists have to do jury duty?
Freedompath comments on Jun 2, 2019:
I think that you might need legal advice.
genessa replies on Jun 2, 2019:
maybe for being truant re jury duty. not for anything related to a bible. g
we wouldn't do a thing like that, would we? g
Heathenman comments on May 31, 2019:
I will make that one of this weekend's projects. Semi high priority.
genessa replies on May 31, 2019:
:-)) do let me know if you get a response -- which ideally you should not, because she should be getting so many she can't hire enough helpers to respond to everyone lol g
What is the answer for your happiness?
genessa comments on May 30, 2019:
no one actually knows the key to happiness, one reason being that there is no one single key that works for everyone. anyone who tells you they have the key to happiness is at best mistaken and at worst trying to sell you a bridge in arizona. g
genessa replies on May 30, 2019:
@Castlepaloma i have my own sandcastle, thank you. i think we all have at least one. g
Even those who don't believe in prayer can relate to the sentiment.
genessa comments on May 28, 2019:
it's funny but since i have never prayed in my life, since the picture shows a christian form of prayer and i have never been christian and since that particular prayer isn't part of my background, i don't identify with that method of wishing, nor with that method of celebrating. i do get it, ...
genessa replies on May 28, 2019:
@MojoDave isn't it? and can we do something about the hair? i don't think it is regulation.... g
Last Sunday, the subject of the sermon was "The Lonely Atheist".
Geoffrey51 comments on May 27, 2019:
Fantastic! I am so happy for you. Revelation comes in many ways. It’s all very well to know something in your head but when you KNOW something for real so many chains fall away. All the best for your move fo reward 😇
genessa replies on May 27, 2019:
@greyeyed123 thus the danger of "just" a cut and paste job. did the poster read it? hmm. g
Last Sunday, the subject of the sermon was "The Lonely Atheist".
Geoffrey51 comments on May 27, 2019:
Fantastic! I am so happy for you. Revelation comes in many ways. It’s all very well to know something in your head but when you KNOW something for real so many chains fall away. All the best for your move fo reward 😇
genessa replies on May 27, 2019:
@Geoffrey51 right. so a comment might well have been appropriate. my analysis stands. g
Last Sunday, the subject of the sermon was "The Lonely Atheist".
Geoffrey51 comments on May 27, 2019:
Fantastic! I am so happy for you. Revelation comes in many ways. It’s all very well to know something in your head but when you KNOW something for real so many chains fall away. All the best for your move fo reward 😇
genessa replies on May 27, 2019:
@greyeyed123 when one shared without comment, one is generally agreeing or condoning the thing being shared. i responded to what i read. i stand by what i said. g
Last Sunday, the subject of the sermon was "The Lonely Atheist".
Geoffrey51 comments on May 27, 2019:
Fantastic! I am so happy for you. Revelation comes in many ways. It’s all very well to know something in your head but when you KNOW something for real so many chains fall away. All the best for your move fo reward 😇
genessa replies on May 27, 2019:
@Geoffrey51 okay, funny thing is, that's not what i read. what i read was that atheism is bullshit. it does actually say that. that sounds like one shackle returned. g
Last Sunday, the subject of the sermon was "The Lonely Atheist".
Geoffrey51 comments on May 27, 2019:
Fantastic! I am so happy for you. Revelation comes in many ways. It’s all very well to know something in your head but when you KNOW something for real so many chains fall away. All the best for your move fo reward 😇
genessa replies on May 27, 2019:
so in what way does this fantastic revelation mean atheism is bullshit? sorry, but i didn't find that so fantastic; i found it false. something isn't bullshit just because it isn't important. it isn't important what color i wear the next time i go out either, but that lack of importance doesn't lower it to the level of being bullshit. g
welcome, @CommonHuman! feel free to post. this is a safe place :-)) g
CommonHuman comments on May 27, 2019:
Thank you for the gracious welcome! Where I live I'm surrounded by conservatives on all sides.
genessa replies on May 27, 2019:
ugh i am sorry to hear that! think that would drive me mad. g
WHAT YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE -- Let me see if I have this straight.
genessa comments on May 25, 2019:
"Jews believe in God but not in a divine Jesus. They're also not really down with the whole Heaven/Hell thing. They believe they were chosen by God because they best personify the moral and ethical behavior God demands." the last sentence is incorrect. the chosen people thing has a single source, ...
genessa replies on May 27, 2019:
@Pedrohbds well, the other big two. buddhism, for example, isn't related. g
Did Billy Graham do anything that injured our society?
greyeyed123 comments on May 26, 2019:
Oh lordy, there were tapes. "At first, Graham denied comments Haldeman made in his book, "The Haldeman Diaries" that Graham and Nixon had disparaged Jews in a conversation following a prayer breakfast in Washington D.C. on Feb. 1, 1972. Haldeman said Graham had talked about a Jewish ...
genessa replies on May 26, 2019:
they say forgiving those who have hurt you is a good thing, that it promoted peace of mind. too bad for me. i do not forgive him, and oddly enough, i do not expect that to interfere with what is left of peace of what is left of my mind. he was just another lying shit. g
Any takers?
genessa comments on May 23, 2019:
he still owes me $130k for not sleeping with him. g
genessa replies on May 26, 2019:
@LucyLoohoo we'd better! g
WHAT YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE -- Let me see if I have this straight.
genessa comments on May 25, 2019:
"Jews believe in God but not in a divine Jesus. They're also not really down with the whole Heaven/Hell thing. They believe they were chosen by God because they best personify the moral and ethical behavior God demands." the last sentence is incorrect. the chosen people thing has a single source, ...
genessa replies on May 25, 2019:
@Sgt_Spanky lol he spent a good amount of time telling me how he's been all over europe (with his mother -- note that she is now 90 years old, and he is probably in his 60s, as am i). but never mind his whole life; how does he visit israel and never meet a jew? and if he is so fervent about jesus (trust me, he was fervent!) then how, out of all the various christian day care facilities, did he end up at a jewish one? g
WHAT YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE -- Let me see if I have this straight.
genessa comments on May 25, 2019:
"Jews believe in God but not in a divine Jesus. They're also not really down with the whole Heaven/Hell thing. They believe they were chosen by God because they best personify the moral and ethical behavior God demands." the last sentence is incorrect. the chosen people thing has a single source, ...
genessa replies on May 25, 2019:
@Sgt_Spanky you are quite welcome. i have posted elsewhere about an experience i had yesterday and i will not replicate that post here but here is a short version: i met someone who just started attending a jewish adult daycare center (which is not religious and whose clientele is by no means all jewish) and did not know that jews do not believe in the divinity of jesus -- and was SHOCKED to find that out. i asked him if he had never met a jew before. he shook his head, no, he never had. he had just told me he'd visited israel so i seriously doubted that, but from his shocked expression i knew he thought he was telling the truth. he was NOT the first person i ever met who didn't know jews don't believe in the divinity of jesus. he won't be the last unless i drop dead pretty soon. it still amazes me, though. at least he didn't ask me to turn around so he could see if i had a tail, and ask me to part my hair so he could see if i had horns. g
Selfishness as a virtue?
genessa comments on May 24, 2019:
between selfishness and selflessness is the concept of acting for mutual benefit, even if one's own gratification is delayed, or passed on to a descendant. libertarianism, to me, while claiming to be for individual rights, is in fact only for the individual rights of the libertarian doing the ...
genessa replies on May 25, 2019:
@Happy_Killbot actually it IS how the burden of proof works. you make the claims, you provide the proof. meanwhile, if i can't be bothered to prove your ridiculous and false claims wrong, and you can't be bothered to support them, i do not have to accept a damned thing. you are making shit up. you are the one making straw men and telling people they said things they never said. again, you tend to make shit up. but i did speak incorrectly some distance above. i said i had nothing more to say to you. i apologize. this time i will remember what i said and say no more to you. this may not stop me from speaking ABOUT you to others. i will no longer be trying to convince YOU of anything. g
Selfishness as a virtue?
genessa comments on May 24, 2019:
between selfishness and selflessness is the concept of acting for mutual benefit, even if one's own gratification is delayed, or passed on to a descendant. libertarianism, to me, while claiming to be for individual rights, is in fact only for the individual rights of the libertarian doing the ...
genessa replies on May 25, 2019:
@Happy_Killbot you quote ME to prove YOU are talking about sharing. uh.... if your point is about someone with a million dollars sharing a million dollars, then you do not understand taxes, or sharing, or anything. no one is sharing everything, not even mother teresa (when she was alive). i don't have to prove your claims are unfactual. prove there is no santa claus. that is how ridiculous your claims are. g
Selfishness as a virtue?
genessa comments on May 24, 2019:
between selfishness and selflessness is the concept of acting for mutual benefit, even if one's own gratification is delayed, or passed on to a descendant. libertarianism, to me, while claiming to be for individual rights, is in fact only for the individual rights of the libertarian doing the ...
genessa replies on May 25, 2019:
@Happy_Killbot nothing you have said directly above is factual. not a damned thing. g
Selfishness as a virtue?
genessa comments on May 24, 2019:
between selfishness and selflessness is the concept of acting for mutual benefit, even if one's own gratification is delayed, or passed on to a descendant. libertarianism, to me, while claiming to be for individual rights, is in fact only for the individual rights of the libertarian doing the ...
genessa replies on May 25, 2019:
@Happy_Killbot oh yeah i ignored it. it's not as if there were a gazillion responses back and forth and i might have MISSED it (and that is in fact what happened). but you assume i ignored it. but it's a dumb answer anyway because if that's your point you HAVE no point. your assuming i expect to receive anything at all from you is dumb too. you make assumptions at such a fast rate you should sell assumptions on ebay; some fool would buy them. i don't buy any of it. and by the way, stop calling it "sharing" if you contend it's against your will. you asked about sharing and then changed it to being robbed, essentially. sharing isn't being robbed and being robbed isn't sharing. you just use whichever one you think proves your point at a given moment, but you don't HAVE a point. g
Trump invokes emergency powers to sidestep congress and sell arms to Saudi Arabia ...
genessa comments on May 24, 2019:
he wants to be considered a legitimate president, which he (atypically, correctly) suspects he is not, and yet, he doesn't mind going down in history as a president whose presidency was beset by one emergency after another! g
genessa replies on May 25, 2019:
@Diogenes i am not referring to reality. trump does not live in the same zip code as reality. i am referring to "emergencies" that he declares. this is his second. g
Selfishness as a virtue?
genessa comments on May 24, 2019:
between selfishness and selflessness is the concept of acting for mutual benefit, even if one's own gratification is delayed, or passed on to a descendant. libertarianism, to me, while claiming to be for individual rights, is in fact only for the individual rights of the libertarian doing the ...
genessa replies on May 25, 2019:
@OwlInASack notice how my last question never got answered, supporting my observation that libertarians, when asked a question they cannot answer (which would be MOST reasonable questions) they change the subject. my question was "then if it is really sharing, why does the sharer expect something back?" note too how it's always all or nothing. you have to give away ALL your resources. there is no consideration of actual sharing. sharing, to a libertarian, means giving up, curling up and dying. they are the ultimate selfish creatures. g
today was a weird day on many levels, but one had to do with religion.
RavenCT comments on May 24, 2019:
I hope I'm never in an Atheist daycare professiing to believe in some god again.... Because a lot of folks revert backwards as they age. Fingers crossed. It sounds like you go to an excellent place btw.
genessa replies on May 25, 2019:
@RavenCT when i was young and could get around, i would take in about seven movies per weekend. until i started going to the jcc, first without and then with the daycare arrangement (it's better because then i get lunch too -- i understand they pay sholom home $6 per meal and the jcc only charges $3 so it's worth it for them to make it that complete a field trip!) i wasn't able to get out even once a year. now i've been able to go to the movies again, not seven per weekend but once or twice a month is an improvement over "oh it's not on cable to i can't see it and if it was on cable it'd be edited and possibly full of advertisements." g
Selfishness as a virtue?
genessa comments on May 24, 2019:
between selfishness and selflessness is the concept of acting for mutual benefit, even if one's own gratification is delayed, or passed on to a descendant. libertarianism, to me, while claiming to be for individual rights, is in fact only for the individual rights of the libertarian doing the ...
genessa replies on May 25, 2019:
@Happy_Killbot if you share all the time, you lose to those who don't? do you think this is a contest of acquisition? what a shamefully selfish attitude! and i do not mean that as a compliment. i have nothing more to say to you about this. g
Selfishness as a virtue?
genessa comments on May 24, 2019:
between selfishness and selflessness is the concept of acting for mutual benefit, even if one's own gratification is delayed, or passed on to a descendant. libertarianism, to me, while claiming to be for individual rights, is in fact only for the individual rights of the libertarian doing the ...
genessa replies on May 24, 2019:
@Happy_Killbot then if it is really sharing, why does the sharer expect something back? g
Selfishness as a virtue?
genessa comments on May 24, 2019:
between selfishness and selflessness is the concept of acting for mutual benefit, even if one's own gratification is delayed, or passed on to a descendant. libertarianism, to me, while claiming to be for individual rights, is in fact only for the individual rights of the libertarian doing the ...
genessa replies on May 24, 2019:
@Happy_Killbot if it isn't voluntary it isn't sharing? who wrote THAT rule? certainly not any kindergarten teacher! why should the circumstances have an effect on what is fair? because if the sharer is sharing voluntarily, and without conditions, that is different from the sharer's making a trade or a bargain, that's why! it's very simple. so the ratio might be 1:0, or otherwise. the question is still impossible without the circumstances and even then it's subjective. g
today was a weird day on many levels, but one had to do with religion.
RavenCT comments on May 24, 2019:
I hope I'm never in an Atheist daycare professiing to believe in some god again.... Because a lot of folks revert backwards as they age. Fingers crossed. It sounds like you go to an excellent place btw.
genessa replies on May 24, 2019:
lol i doubt there is such a thing as an atheist daycare center. all the assisted living facilities seem to be connected with some religious institution or another. the christian ones are RELENTLESSLY christian. if you have to choose a facility, go with a jewish one. judaism doesn't ALLOW proselytizing! meanwhile, i don't know that the guy i met today was ever an atheist. i am pretty sure he never was one. back in the days when he could travel, his biggest thrill visiting israel was visiting jesus' cave or whatever that was. i have to say, the older i get, the more certain i am there are no gods, not that i have thought for a minute there might be, not since i was 15, anyway. i also don't know anyone who has become more religious, or religious again after not being religious, with age. i guess it also depends on how long one WAS religious. i never was, and then went full atheist at age 15, so i really don't have anything to which to revert. and thank you, yes, i think i lucked out! the staff is nice, we get field trips and lunch ranges from boring to really good lol. my guy and i are members of silver sneakers, paid for by our respective insurance companies, and the best pool in town is at the jewish community center in our town, so we go there a lot. that center shows free movies, and i mean pretty recent movies, not oldies, with free popcorn, and a nice lunch for three bucks. i told the new director of our daycare about it and now she takes us there once or twice a month for lunch and a movie! we have seen, in the last few months, the wife, can you ever forgive me, the green book, operation finale, the old man and the gun (i don't recommend it), the mule (i didn't even go to that one), and on the basis of sex. past films we saw there included the post and darkest hour. we're poor and not so mobile; without this, we would never be able to see films like that, and i LOVE movies! so i am glad the director took our suggestion and set it up for us to go regularly. i think we're going fishing soon, too lol. (i'd rather go horseback riding but i don't think the rest of the gang is up for it.) (and yeah, there's bingo too. well, you know, you can't have an old folks' party without bingo!) g
Selfishness as a virtue?
genessa comments on May 24, 2019:
between selfishness and selflessness is the concept of acting for mutual benefit, even if one's own gratification is delayed, or passed on to a descendant. libertarianism, to me, while claiming to be for individual rights, is in fact only for the individual rights of the libertarian doing the ...
genessa replies on May 24, 2019:
@Happy_Killbot that is a ridiculous question because you have not said shared with whom, shared voluntarily or otherwise, shared for what reason, shared where or when, or what the other party has, needs, whether the other party has asked to be shared with or is just a random recipient, whether the other party is an individual, more than one individual, a nation, a corporation or a pigeon in the park. the question is too general to answer reasonably at all. g
Selfishness as a virtue?
genessa comments on May 24, 2019:
between selfishness and selflessness is the concept of acting for mutual benefit, even if one's own gratification is delayed, or passed on to a descendant. libertarianism, to me, while claiming to be for individual rights, is in fact only for the individual rights of the libertarian doing the ...
genessa replies on May 24, 2019:
@TomMcGiverin pardon the religious word, but amen! g
As a freethinker I don't believe in life after death.
genessa comments on May 23, 2019:
there is no logical way to justify belief in an afterlife. i too understand why people are desperate to believe in such a thing and may eschew logic for the sake of their peace of mind, but it just doesn't work if you think too hard about it. fortunately for me, in terms of missing loved ones, i ...
genessa replies on May 24, 2019:
@DenoPenno i enjoy mine! g
Any takers?
genessa comments on May 23, 2019:
he still owes me $130k for not sleeping with him. g
genessa replies on May 24, 2019:
@LucyLoohoo there are millions! g
Any takers?
Mofo1953 comments on May 23, 2019:
Don't you know he's the most transparent President in the history of the USA?
genessa replies on May 24, 2019:
@Healthydoc70 i heard him say something no one has reported, though he said it in a tv interview. i was walking out of the room when i heard him say it so i can't even tell you what his facial expression was, or to whom he said it. i heard him say that he believed most people were assholes. i don't remember if that was the word he used but that is essentially what he said. i have no idea why no one ever plays that clip or has reacted to it, but i didn't imagine it! i don't even remember whether it was pre-election, in the lame duck period or just after he assumed the throne, and yes, he thinks it's a throne, but it was early, and i suspect it was at least before the inauguration. g
Mueller’s Illegitimate Hoax Investigation Somehow Just Led to Another Indictment Involving the ...
RichieO comments on May 24, 2019:
They gave him far too much time to cover up his tracks, be lucky to get him impeached on that one...
genessa replies on May 24, 2019:
the impeachment will likely not be about whatever crimes he has committed but, rather, about his attempts to cover them up. the coverups are impeachable offenses themselves. g
PETE BUTTIGIEG GOES NUCLEAR Mayor Pete claims Trump faked disability to avoid draft ...
Aristopus comments on May 23, 2019:
Trump was 4F with a heel spur according to a podiatrist that lived in his father's apartment house in Queens. But today Donald cannot remember which foot it was on.
genessa replies on May 23, 2019:
bone spurs don't go away all by themselves. unless he can show a record of surgical removal, he still has them, and doesn't have to remember where they are; he can feel them. he is obviously in too much pain to play golf, right? i have bone spurs in my hips. i know a little something about bone spurs (and pain). g
PETE BUTTIGIEG GOES NUCLEAR Mayor Pete claims Trump faked disability to avoid draft ...
SeaGreenEyez comments on May 23, 2019:
Of course he's right about this subject. It's no secret that Dipshit Donny is a draft dodger.
genessa replies on May 23, 2019:
@St-Sinner um... no one went in his place. his place was a HIGH NUMBER. had he been called, he'd have gone. you cannot call someone a draft dodger, regardless of his views or intentions, if he is in the lottery and ready to go, however reluctantly, and by chance has a high number and never gets called. that is not draft-dodging. pretending you have bone spurs when you don't in order not to be called regardless of your lottery number is draft-dodging. do you REALLY not see the distinction? why does this conversation seem so familiar to me? it seems to me we had a conversation on another matter too in which you ignored facts no matter how often they were presented to you. you didn't rebut them. you just ignored them. you're doing it again. i am writing this, therefore, not in any expectation of your actually paying attention to facts, but rather to clarify to anyone reading this who may have missed the distinction, or be unaware of the situation(s). g
Any takers?
Outlier comments on May 23, 2019:
We should pray for him. Crazy Nancy
genessa replies on May 23, 2019:
nancy's fine. whether or not she was just being snarky about praying, let's assume for a second she wasn't and she really is going to pray. that definitely is not ALL she will do. she isn't a slacktivist. g
Any takers?
Krysia22 comments on May 23, 2019:
I'm waiting for the "and I am not a crook'statement....
genessa replies on May 23, 2019:
that WAS his "i am not a crook" statement. g
Any takers?
Mofo1953 comments on May 23, 2019:
Don't you know he's the most transparent President in the history of the USA?
genessa replies on May 23, 2019:
yeah like a nonbiodegradable plastic bag. actually he is pretty transparent. i can see in one ear and out the other and there is no brain blocking the way. g
'Islamization of Europe a good thing'
genessa comments on May 22, 2019:
there has always been islam in europe. it is responsible for much of the great architecture of spain. muslims, christians and jews (and presumably atheists, as long as we kept our mouths shut) lived in harmony until those most inquisitive folk ruined everything. auto-da-fe, anyone? g
genessa replies on May 23, 2019:
@Pedrohbds okay maybe i misread "ago" in there instead of war. g
'Islamization of Europe a good thing'
gsiamne comments on May 22, 2019:
I also read a thing a while ago about one of the Swedish political leaders who lamented letting the Islamist's into the country and what it is causing to happen in Stockholm.
genessa replies on May 23, 2019:
do you really mean islamists? or do you mean muslims? because no country is actually knowingly allowing islamists in not a single one. lots of countries decline to discriminate against muslims. muslims are people who follow the religion of islam. islamists are people who use terror as a tool to conquer land in order to institute the caliphate and pretty much want to rule the world under their distorted view of islam (which seems to include mass murder on muslim holidays and ignoring an awful lot of the "be nice" part of islam). most muslims don't blow stuff up or shoot folks. islamists do. g
'Islamization of Europe a good thing'
genessa comments on May 22, 2019:
there has always been islam in europe. it is responsible for much of the great architecture of spain. muslims, christians and jews (and presumably atheists, as long as we kept our mouths shut) lived in harmony until those most inquisitive folk ruined everything. auto-da-fe, anyone? g
genessa replies on May 23, 2019:
@Pedrohbds prior to 30 years ago? so you dismiss the whole history of pre-inquisition spain (for one example, but it's a good one so i keep coming back to it)? PEOPLE have a history of being nasty to one another! g
joe biden has privately apologized to anita hill.
vertrauen comments on May 23, 2019:
Yes, I'd prefer Harris, Warren or Buttigieg over Biden, but I'm definitely Team Blue No Matter Who!
genessa replies on May 23, 2019:
that's the spirit! in the primary, vote for whoever you think will make the best president. in the general, vote blue no matter who! whoever it is, the country will survive her/his term(s) and that is NOT true of trump (or indeed any republican). g
'Islamization of Europe a good thing'
genessa comments on May 22, 2019:
there has always been islam in europe. it is responsible for much of the great architecture of spain. muslims, christians and jews (and presumably atheists, as long as we kept our mouths shut) lived in harmony until those most inquisitive folk ruined everything. auto-da-fe, anyone? g
genessa replies on May 22, 2019:
@altschmerz oh lol well, the inquisitorial catholics to be sure! funny they should be hostile to jews and revere one at the same time. g
'Islamization of Europe a good thing'
genessa comments on May 22, 2019:
there has always been islam in europe. it is responsible for much of the great architecture of spain. muslims, christians and jews (and presumably atheists, as long as we kept our mouths shut) lived in harmony until those most inquisitive folk ruined everything. auto-da-fe, anyone? g
genessa replies on May 22, 2019:
@altschmerz really not! not throughout history. throughout relatively modern history, yes, and in ancient times the hellenized persians and assyrians persecuted jews, but they were trying to get the jews to build statues of zeus and his gang; there was no islam yet then. g
Can’t verify
genessa comments on May 22, 2019:
why can't you verify? i got it right away. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-ballistic-fox-and-friends/ short answer: false. g
genessa replies on May 22, 2019:
@GuyKeith i guess that settled that then lol! i guess if one can't tell the difference between a funny meme and fake news, or be bothered to verify whether something IS fake news, one also can't be bothered to read or understand group rules, eh? g
Can’t verify
genessa comments on May 22, 2019:
why can't you verify? i got it right away. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-ballistic-fox-and-friends/ short answer: false. g
genessa replies on May 22, 2019:
@GuyKeith aryn doesn't know the difference between sharing a funny meme that isn't literally true and sharing a meme that purports to convey and fact but is actually false. i have tried to explain. it didn't work. look at her examples -- stuff that is supposed to be funny and not taken literally. those are the example she gives but the meme she posted originally does not match the examples. it is not a joke. it's not supposed to be a joke. it's supposed to be believed, and it should not be, because it is false. if we spread fake news, how are we any better than trump? trump has said and done bad enough stuff without our having to make shit up. aryn can give funny memes as an example until she turns blue in the face but all she'll have is a blue face, not a case for her misapprehension. the lowdown is: got a funny meme? cool. it's obviously not to be believed and therefore needs no verification. got a meme that purports to give information? verify it, and if it's false, don't spread it. easy peasy. not brain surgery. not rocket science. g
Can’t verify
St-Sinner comments on May 22, 2019:
Trump is challenging democrats to overthrow people's mandate in 2016 and make it easy for him to be elected. He is appealing to the worst in the enemy and make them act that will help him in 2020. Democrats are better off doing people's work - such as pass legislations - comprehensive ...
genessa replies on May 22, 2019:
@St-Sinner "the authority to carry out a policy or course of action, regarded as given by the electorate to a candidate or party that is victorious in an election." BY THE ELECTORATE. not every winner has a clear mandate. squeaker-winners don't have what we call mandates. you have to have a strict, narrow interpretation of the concept to consider trump to have the people's mandate. as it happens, the people don't even want the electoral college anymore. about a third of the states have already passed laws that say their electors will give their votes to the winner of the national popular vote from now on. more states will follow. now, that is what i call a mandate! i am not saying the presidency wasn't handed to trump. i am saying it wasn't the people's mandate. i'm not a sore loser. i'm a citizen who is shocked that we have a wannabe dictator who is working hard to make that happen (and it's the only thing he's working hard at, because he's a lazy bum, too). g
Can’t verify
St-Sinner comments on May 22, 2019:
Trump is challenging democrats to overthrow people's mandate in 2016 and make it easy for him to be elected. He is appealing to the worst in the enemy and make them act that will help him in 2020. Democrats are better off doing people's work - such as pass legislations - comprehensive ...
genessa replies on May 22, 2019:
@St-Sinner no, t's called you don't know what a mandate is. g
Can’t verify
genessa comments on May 22, 2019:
why can't you verify? i got it right away. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-ballistic-fox-and-friends/ short answer: false. g
genessa replies on May 22, 2019:
@Aryn i didn't even look at that one. i wasn't interested since not all memes are the same, and one meme's being a joke doesn't make ALL memes jokes. g
Can’t verify
St-Sinner comments on May 22, 2019:
Trump is challenging democrats to overthrow people's mandate in 2016 and make it easy for him to be elected. He is appealing to the worst in the enemy and make them act that will help him in 2020. Democrats are better off doing people's work - such as pass legislations - comprehensive ...
genessa replies on May 22, 2019:
@St-Sinner so since when does the electoral college constitute a mandate? a mandate is when the PEOPLE speak. g
Can’t verify
St-Sinner comments on May 22, 2019:
Trump is challenging democrats to overthrow people's mandate in 2016 and make it easy for him to be elected. He is appealing to the worst in the enemy and make them act that will help him in 2020. Democrats are better off doing people's work - such as pass legislations - comprehensive ...
genessa replies on May 22, 2019:
the people's mandate in 2016 was for hillary clinton to be president. people don't suddenly get lazy or conservative when they reach a certain age. i would not tell anyone to get lost because of age or tenure. they should be voted out if they're ineffective (at best) or corrupt (more likely these days). they should be reelected if they're effective and good. nor are they stopping younger people from being elected. there is room for all. well, except republicans we have no room or use for republicans. g p.s. the meme is untrue. however, everything in the meme that trump didn't actually say IS stuff he probably thinks.
Can’t verify
genessa comments on May 22, 2019:
why can't you verify? i got it right away. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-ballistic-fox-and-friends/ short answer: false. g
genessa replies on May 22, 2019:
@Aryn some memes are funny and others are meant to be taken seriously. the one you posted is not funny and it IS meant to be taken seriously, and people WILL believe it. the statement that memes are not meant to be taken seriously (whatever they are and whatever they say) is not correct. g
There are athletes who are agnostic atheist. However are any of them progressive or liberal?
A2Jennifer comments on May 20, 2019:
Have you really not heard of Colin Kaepernick?
genessa replies on May 21, 2019:
not to mention whole bunches of athletes who kneel WITH him! g
American voters must be embarrassed having a President who sabre rattles with foreign powers on ...
Summer72 comments on May 20, 2019:
Most of us are are Very embarrassed. He needs his phone taken away at night like a child. They should also put parental restrictions on his phone at all times. He is a joke to most of us.
genessa replies on May 20, 2019:
@Summer72 trump has tainted the judicial system. he has appointed over 100 federal judges and they're his kind of people. that's scary. that's APART from putting gorsuch and kavanaugh in scotus. i don't have faith in the system when bad people are in charge of it. as for all talk, i wish that were true. he certainly is FULL of talk, but his words have impact because of his position, for which he is so horribly unqualified. g
American voters must be embarrassed having a President who sabre rattles with foreign powers on ...
Summer72 comments on May 20, 2019:
Most of us are are Very embarrassed. He needs his phone taken away at night like a child. They should also put parental restrictions on his phone at all times. He is a joke to most of us.
genessa replies on May 20, 2019:
i'm not embarrassed and he's not a joke. i'm furious and terrified and he is a threat to the universe. it's easy to laugh at him because you have to laugh at your fears or they'll overwhelm you -- in addition, some of the crap he and his (yes his!) party come up with are so absurd they'd be laughed away if they weren't presented so earnestly and accompanied by awful legislation and adjudication. but me, personally, embarrassed? i didn't vote for him and the majority of my compatriots didn't either! we're working hard to get rid of him and his. we don't have time to be embarrassed. g
I actually saw an ad on TV today, that surprised me - in a good way, telling about "Freedom from ...
Petter comments on May 19, 2019:
Careful. Such advertising might be mistaken for preaching!
genessa replies on May 19, 2019:
not by anyone who actually understands english and listens to the words being said. it is not preaching about how people should be atheists. it is talking about separation of church and state. the only people who could mistake it for preaching are those who spend their lives preaching. g
Not ridiculing, just curious.
BohoHeathen comments on May 18, 2019:
I don’t bash religion on fb as hard as I do here lol
genessa replies on May 18, 2019:
i tend not to bash religion as much as i bash what religionists want ME to do, or the country to do, or the world to do. g
i just got back from an eight-hour vet urgent care visit.
Rob1948 comments on May 18, 2019:
Im sorry for your impending loss. You have a tough decision to make. It won’t be easy but, i hope you can find a balance between what is best for you and for Penny.
genessa replies on May 18, 2019:
i know she wants to be home with family, not just me and richard but her two surviving daughters and her elderly (but younger than she) husband. i have been through this before. i HAD to put woody down; his brain tumor was suppressing his breathing and he was suffocating to death. hardest thing i ever had to do. but the others about whom i had to make such a choice died at home with me and i SAW the quality of life they had. robin PLAYED. she snuggled with her mama and papa and sisters. she wrestled with the dog. i would not deprive her of that. and i will not deprive penny of the time she has left, either. g
Are we suffering from existential dread or the real thing?
genessa comments on May 17, 2019:
my spending a few moments telling those who think it's horribly important to distinguish between agnostics and atheists how silly they are doesn't prevent me from acting upon more pressing concerns. g
genessa replies on May 18, 2019:
@OpposingOpposum no, but the doers perceive a need. yes, it is tedious. yes, we can ask them to browse or search before posting unoriginal stuff. as we can sadly note, our advice is not often heeded. g
Are we suffering from existential dread or the real thing?
genessa comments on May 17, 2019:
my spending a few moments telling those who think it's horribly important to distinguish between agnostics and atheists how silly they are doesn't prevent me from acting upon more pressing concerns. g
genessa replies on May 18, 2019:
@OpposingOpposum ah it's letting me use the reply button again! lol yes apparently we do... i don't see why, but it keeps happening so someone needs to do it. 'sigh g
[agnostic.com] Very bland and who adds a pic of themselves and writes 'Very sweet'?
HippieChick58 comments on May 16, 2019:
She sounds like a damn doormat. I'm going to try to be so non offensive as to be a non person. Good grief. Don't grow a wishbone where your back bone ought to be.
genessa replies on May 17, 2019:
she is no doormat. she is a scammer. g
how do you define success?
LiterateHiker comments on May 15, 2019:
To me, success means making a positive difference in the world. When I moved to Wenatchee, WA in 1984, I was appalled that Wenatchee had no homeless shelter for women, the highest school dropout rate, and one of the highest teen pregnancy rates in the state. So, as a volunteer, I got to work....
genessa replies on May 15, 2019:
@m16566 i do not see an empty vessel there! @LiterateHiker is kind not to take offense despite her correcting you (politely); i would consider it an insult and say so. i don't know hiker personally but i know her from her posts here and i can guarantee she is not an empty vessel, or an empty anything! furthermore, that would not be a joyful thing to be at all. g
how do you define success?
genessa comments on May 15, 2019:
are those the only two choices: money or peace of mind? how about accomplishment other than wealth, such as inventing something useful for the world, or fighting for justice, either of which necessarily provides peace of mind? there are a gazilllion ways to define success that do not involve ...
genessa replies on May 15, 2019:
@m16566 oh, so martin luther king was acting only out of ego or pride? all ambition, regardless of what kind or for what purpose, causes suffering? i do not buy that. you state that as a fact. it isn't a fact. g
Temporary setback. Sympathy for people with chronic pain.
genessa comments on May 15, 2019:
even temporary pain sucks. i, like @linxminx, also have arthritis and fibromyalgia, as well as neuropathy from my diabetes and some other stuff. like her i try not to complain; folks do NOT understand, any more than they understand that depression isn't just feeling sad. i had a recent experience...
genessa replies on May 15, 2019:
@LiterateHiker not only by virtue of being dismissive, which is no small thing, but also because our heart attack symptoms are not always the same ones men experience. that classic heart-clutching with the left-arm-pain, that's typically male. women might just feel nausea and/or pressure and a host of other things that don't cry out "heart attack" to those without an m.d. after their names. a doctor, though, should know better, and that is where the dismissal comes in. g
"We are stardust brought to life, then empowered by the universe to figure itself out - - and we ...
genessa comments on May 15, 2019:
he borrowed the stardust imagery from carl sagan, which is fine. g
genessa replies on May 15, 2019:
@callmedubious lol sagan didn't invent the word. he just came up with the idea that that's what we're all made of. he also called it star-stuff. g
Temporary setback. Sympathy for people with chronic pain.
linxminx comments on May 15, 2019:
I have arthritis and fibromyalgia. I very rarely complain or talk about the pain I live with as most don't understand, and I've noticed, I will get looked down on for it, like it's my fault this happened. It actually runs in my family, so it's genetic. But I get a sort of "well bless your heart" ...
genessa replies on May 15, 2019:
me too, and it also runs in my family -- as does the diabetes that, contrary to possible popular opinion, i did not bring upon myself! i know what you mean! g
Hey guys! I posted a few weeks ago about my process of leaving religion and I know deep down that ...
Metahuman comments on May 15, 2019:
I think you need a healthy dose of Alan Watts . Here's a taste, if it's to your liking check Alan Watts on YouTube . I think he would lead you in the right direction. If you are intelligent and reasonable you cannot be the product of a mechanical and meaningless universe. Figs do not ...
genessa replies on May 15, 2019:
watts has it 99.999999 percent correct. what he says applies to the hebrew bible as much as to the other religions mentioned but NOT to synagogues. i don't think watts has actually been in a synagogue. modern prayer books don't even have genders for god anymore. there are plenty of female rabbis. there is nothing antifeminist in any of the sermons i've heard, although i admit i go two or three times one year, maybe not at all the next, and i go because i enjoy it, in that limited way, not because i feel i must or should, or because i believe in any gods (i do not). the sermons tend to be humanist and not, as i think they would be in a christian church, about how to have faith, or serve god, or anything fiery or brimstonish. this is true of every synagogue i've ever visited, in any capacity, i am not touting judaism, and if i were, i'd be breaking jewish law, which forbids proselytizing. i am only correcting the misapprehension that modern (at least reform and probably conservative too, albeit not orthodox) judaism is NOT paternalistic and is in fact going out of its way not to be so. as i mentioned, watts is correct about everything else as far as i can tell, unless by virtue of my poor eyesight i missed something. g
"We are stardust brought to life, then empowered by the universe to figure itself out - - and we ...
genessa comments on May 15, 2019:
he borrowed the stardust imagery from carl sagan, which is fine. g
genessa replies on May 15, 2019:
@jerry99 lol they got it from sagan too! g
When i finally opened my eyes after 30 years and was able to look unbiased at the bible and the ...
273kelvin comments on May 15, 2019:
The new testament was spun for a Roman audience. The Easter story is a prime example. It takes place at Passover. This is a highly politically charged time for the Jews. Many years ago I celebrated this festival and as you may know, it tells the Exodus story. For jews, it is rather like the 4th of ...
genessa replies on May 15, 2019:
@273kelvin even that is up in the air. what happened at that time could be as simple as someone 60 years later being nostalgic and wanting something to have happened. g
When i finally opened my eyes after 30 years and was able to look unbiased at the bible and the ...
273kelvin comments on May 15, 2019:
The new testament was spun for a Roman audience. The Easter story is a prime example. It takes place at Passover. This is a highly politically charged time for the Jews. Many years ago I celebrated this festival and as you may know, it tells the Exodus story. For jews, it is rather like the 4th of ...
genessa replies on May 15, 2019:
all of that presumes jesus (not his real name) actually existed, something that is highly doubtful. i will add as a side note that this year my guy and i used the social justice haggadah and it ends "next year in a just world." we liked that. (and yeah, i'm an atheist. he's not, but i am.) g
When i finally opened my eyes after 30 years and was able to look unbiased at the bible and the ...
genessa comments on May 14, 2019:
the romans were the early-middle middleman in the deal. popes and then the british kings tweaked it even more. but before the romans, there was paul, and paul invented the beginnings of christianity as we know it, and if he had gone anywhere but to greece things might have worked out somewhat ...
genessa replies on May 15, 2019:
@abyers1970 or unless you're a fanatic trying to recruit followers no matter what, and you're willing to bend every rule just to get folks on board! obviously i'm talking about paul; emperors, popes and kings had their own agendas lol. but i don't worry much about who had it right; nobody had it right. the books themselves, even viewed separately, cannot be taken at face value. then there's the whole god thing lol. g
Atheists make up a wide variety of independent thinkers.
Petter comments on May 14, 2019:
The only unifying factor is a rejection of religion, but even that is for differing reasons. It certainly isn't an ability to avoid being gullible, as witness the number of atheists who believe in homeopathy.
genessa replies on May 15, 2019:
not to be picky, but atheism isn't actually the rejection of religion. lots of people believe in a god of some sort but reject religion, and likewise i know at least one atheist who occasionally enjoys a trip to shul on the high holidays: me! we reject the idea of a deity. g
i hope it is okay that i am not naming any names just now but instead have a question about ...
amymcmxcii comments on May 13, 2019:
My question is sort of the same: how does one define a troll? Scammer seems easy enough - it usually comes down to money. Troll seems more subtle. I have gotten into a couple of heated discussions lately where the other party said I was a troll, thus ending the conversation. I confess to being a...
genessa replies on May 14, 2019:
@amymcmxcii i think so too! g
is there a delay between posts and notifications?
RavenCT comments on May 14, 2019:
And remember if there were a lower level member responding in there - their post needs approval before it goes live - so it would have definitely taken time before an alert was generated - added another layer to the possible delay. I think what your surmise is exactly right. In fact I had ...
genessa replies on May 14, 2019:
nope in the long run it's not. in the short run it can make one curious. g
i hope it is okay that i am not naming any names just now but instead have a question about ...
amymcmxcii comments on May 13, 2019:
My question is sort of the same: how does one define a troll? Scammer seems easy enough - it usually comes down to money. Troll seems more subtle. I have gotten into a couple of heated discussions lately where the other party said I was a troll, thus ending the conversation. I confess to being a...
genessa replies on May 13, 2019:
a troll is, more or less, someone whose purpose is not to present a point of view, or to convince anyone of it, or to find out others' points of view, but simply to stir up feelings and provoke emotional responses. there is another kind of troll too,these days, and that is someone (or some bot) employed by (for example) russia to spread misinformation on purpose, particularly to cause division within the liberal sensibility. that's a real thing too. g
Why I'm Pro-Choice
Robecology comments on May 13, 2019:
Women won't have to chose once they're given family planning tools generously, unrestrictively. Why don't they see that by fighting "family planning"...because to them that's against "god's will"....they're also encouraging the desperate turn to abortion?
genessa replies on May 13, 2019:
i meant to say (sorry, i got distracted) that i am sorry about your wife. g
I heard about this movement on NPR the other day and had to seek out more information.
genessa comments on May 12, 2019:
i have not worn a bra since 1970. i have not worn underpants since 1997. i have never worn a corset. i don't wear stockings or pantyhose. i do not wear makeup. there are many things about my body i would change if i could but those things i just mentioned that i eschew would not solve any of ...
genessa replies on May 13, 2019:
@Amisja haha! i have big thick eyebrows. i have a friend who used to be a little afraid of my eye brows because her family was full of thin-eyebrowed women. i once had a friend whose shoulders were very wide and i was astonished; everyone in my family had narrow shoulders. i once led a sheltered life.... g
I heard about this movement on NPR the other day and had to seek out more information.
genessa comments on May 12, 2019:
i have not worn a bra since 1970. i have not worn underpants since 1997. i have never worn a corset. i don't wear stockings or pantyhose. i do not wear makeup. there are many things about my body i would change if i could but those things i just mentioned that i eschew would not solve any of ...
genessa replies on May 13, 2019:
@Amisja oh, i don't think they threatened her job or anything. i could be wrong. i think when she says they "made"her do it, it means they convinced her to do it. tv lights really do bleach out one's features. if you're in a drama and you want to look as if you're not wearing any makeup. you have to be made up to look that way. if you do it by just not wearing any makeup, you look as if you're made up as a ghost! g

Photos

1
1 Like Show
2
2 Like Show
1
1 Like Show
1
1 Like Show
3
3 Like Show
5
5 Like Show
4
4 Like Show
Atheist, Humanist, Secularist, Freethinker
Here for community
  • Level8 (161,795pts)
  • Posts705
  • Comments
      Replies
    4,946
    5,364
  • Followers 33
  • Fans 0
  • Following 6
  • Referrals42
  • Joined Sep 2nd, 2018
  • Last Visit Over a year ago
    Not in search results