This is likely contentious, but it needs to be asked. As this is a site "...promoting universal truths and peaceful life without religion" how do you feel about people of faith joining here?
I'm no shrinking violet and I don't need the sort of safe space that so many people believe they do now, but I also don't want to have to engage with people who have been inculcated into some form of unscientific, simple-minded view of the natural world.
I joined in the belief (cough) that this was an exclusive club where I could escape from these folk - but now I find they are joining - with a view to what, I don't know although my hackles are raised.
Not only is this sort of thing wasteful of resources, but if they are here to try to convert or preach at us, that's likely to result in a dissemination to all-out flame wars in a post or two.
I didn't think this was a site to convert people from one way of thinking to another (that sort of thing is nigh-on impossible by the time we're in our 20s anyway.)
I ask because I'm interested what my fellow angostic/athiests think.
I've noted that "theists" tend to butt in to these conversations with their ignorance and that's what I came here to avoid.
I'm getting too old to argue.
hehe...growing old seems to make me want to argue more!
Still, I believe Atheists, Agnostics, Humanists, et al need a forum away from religious zealots. As a Spiritual Humanist I believe in the POSSIBILITY of a god, even if as such s/he is the sum total of the matter and energy of the omniverse....hence my priesthood in Spiritual Humanism...SO...
I have no compunction against offering words of solace, encouragement and enlightenment when and where needed. These can feed the "soul", or psyche if you prefer, and even to an Atheist, a true unbeliever, these can have a positive effect...BUT...
I am NOT here to proselytize, convert or otherwise sway anyone's thinking beyond RATIONAL debate. The beauty of my "faith" is I DO NOT KNOW and, beyond my direct experiences, have very little knowledge of anything intangible. I do know the "voices in my head" are of my own making and, if I ever think otherwise, I hope I am committed to the appropriate institution...and let me make it clear I am NOT talking about a church! STILL...
There are far too many websites, groups, clubs, chat rooms...for religious people to be among their own. My personal belief, having been a part of this wonderful community for a total of just over an hour now, is that anyone coming to this site to find converts should be politely asked to leave.
I believe there are a few reasons believers join this site. They like to argue or debate. They like to spread the word. They like to cause unrest. I do not believe because religions have caused most of the problems in this world. People who force their beliefs on others really upset me because even when you tell them you're not interested, some of them just keep up their babbling. I'm not a confrontational person. I don't like to argue. And, I especially don't like to debate things like belief or non-belief. Leave me alone to live my life as I see fit and I'll do the same for you.
The problem with many posts from the religiously minded is they will end up quoting something from a religious text as though we should accept that as absolute proof and also cannot believe that we might be without faith.
Somebody of the calibre of Archbishop Desmond Tutu would add interesting debate, but most religious posts on the internet are utter drivel and would add nothing to this forum.
This is my third time coming back to this question because it caused a lot more debate in my head than I thought it would. I'm an inclusive type of person so my first impulse was to allow them. However, the points I kept coming back to are:
1) This site provided me with room to breathe in a way I've never experienced before. Sure, everyone has different shades of non-belief and it's stimulating to discuss them, but I'm safe from the theist challenges I deal with in the rest of my life. There are tons of other sites out there where I debate as the black sheep "outsider" with the religious. It doesn't have to be this one.
2) Although it's a real bonus to find community here, I believed this was promoted as a dating site solely for agnostics which was a big draw for me. In fact, I've never joined a site so quickly as I did this one and I love the people I've met! I don't need to fear getting involved with someone who's just tolerating my beliefs.
So, no, I don't think they should be allowed.
I think they should be allowed to join. After all, how else can people see the wisdom behind rational thought if we don't open our discussion to them?
If they are just here to troll, or preach, instead of seek answers , understanding, or have rational discussion- I think they should get the boot.
the problem I am not sure if religious ppl joined but it;s also an invitation to troll's and not the good kind either out fairy tale books they have gotten good athiest site closed closed wel pages but using mutliple accounts If it wasnt for the troo;s I I would personalywelcome the open disccussion