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K9Kohle789 comments on Aug 30, 2020:

On ebay they have that because the selling is probably hard right now. The person has a price of it's worth/value so he states it $100 but since he realizes he probably won't get that price due to slow sales he'll take best offer. So people can make him an offer and he can accept it or reject it if ...

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 31, 2020:

@lerlo It seems like you're the one that needs to do a little research. You're correct, but only in a vacuum. People don't behave rationally and logically, so closing yourself off to revenue streams made available by knowing how people think illogically.

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ChestRockfield comments on Aug 30, 2020:

The sad part is that if this was satire, it would be friggin hilarious.

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 31, 2020:

@tsallinia Nope. Look at his bio.

Chew on this for a while, then tell us what you think. [patheos.com]

CourtJester comments on Aug 30, 2020:

Not a fan of Christians, but I love what the kid did and how he reacted. I’m more upset that he’s being prosecuted for it.

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 31, 2020:

@creative51 Has anyone else been trying to figure out what the XXXX are?

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jlynn37 comments on Aug 30, 2020:

If there was an item for sale that I wanted and I thought it was a fair asking price, I would pay the asking price and be done with it.

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 31, 2020:

@lerlo I know you're just acting out because you're upset, but honestly, there would be circumstances I would offer more money than the listing price if it was something I really wanted and I wanted to make sure I secured the sale to me. Apparently you don't deal in any kind of collectible, do you?

A PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: I'm sure most of you don't do this, but if you do or know of someone...

ChestRockfield comments on Aug 30, 2020:

I think there are plenty of reasons for it. Let's say you'd be happy with $50, you list for $60 OBO so that the buyer feels like they're getting a discount and it creates a sense of urgency, (i.e. "Oh, they're willing to take X% less, if I don't move on that they're going to agree on a price with ...

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 31, 2020:

@lerlo Dude, are your heels just too dug in? I already said, "especially considering even if you don't list something as OBO, people will try to negotiate you down anyway." Don't be butthurt just because people are pointing out your theory is all kinds of incorrect. I even said that it's only wrong because people are illogical.

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CourtJester comments on Aug 30, 2020:

Not a fan of Christians, but I love what the kid did and how he reacted. I’m more upset that he’s being prosecuted for it.

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 31, 2020:

@Redneckliberal @creative51 A couple weeks ago both in a comment and on his bio he said he was a couple months away from being a doctor. I called him on it and told him no one believes that. My reasoning: med students graduate and become residents July 1st every year. Magically, after that he suddenly became a doctor. A couple months can go by in a jif in fantasy land.

COMMUNITY GUIDELINE DISCUSSION: WHAT ARE OUR "RULES"?

Krish55 comments on Aug 30, 2020:

Not all name calling is necessarily ad hominem. Anyone who repeatedly makes fascist or racist comments should be called a fascist or racist. That is an evaluation made on the basis of the person's words. That is not an ad hominem attack.

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 30, 2020:

Agreed, ad hominem attacks are when you claim a person's argument is wrong because of something about them that is unrelated to the argument.

COMMUNITY GUIDELINE DISCUSSION: WHAT ARE OUR "RULES"?

hankster comments on Aug 30, 2020:

??? Suggestion for a guideline- Honor others' dignity and cultivate your own humility

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 30, 2020:

@TheMiddleWay You really don't see a problem with a bunch of unsupported opining? * That's * an acceptable future for this website? No thank you. It seems we should be better than that. We almost universally collectively reject that for which there is no evidence, but we should be fine with it if it is shrouded in the thin veil of opinion? Even worse, that even asking someone to support their opinion results in blocks and reports to admin? Challenging people's opinions is how you change them. If people were never challenged and essentially then lived in echo chambers, they wouldn't grow or shed opinions that are harmful like racism, sexism, homophobia, etc. Those are all opinions. I want people to challenge me. I like being proved wrong. I like amending my beliefs, eliminating inconsistencies, incongruities, and contradictions. I only want to have opinions that stand up to scrutiny. I was raised in a family that thought horrible untrue things and I want to make sure that I cleanse myself of any that could possibly remain. I believe people should say what they mean and mean what they say. I believe people should have good reasons for everything they believe and should be willing to defend their thoughts and actions while sharing any knowledge they gained to help other people grow as well. And I don't really want to be part of any community that doesn't at least think these are noble principles we should live by. You could go to any other website and encounter a million other people that do nothing but vomit their unsupported opinions all over the world like they're in any way special. I frequented this site because I thought it would be different with a higher caliber of people and an elevated level of discourse. I suppose I was asking too much.

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CourtJester comments on Aug 30, 2020:

Not a fan of Christians, but I love what the kid did and how he reacted. I’m more upset that he’s being prosecuted for it.

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 30, 2020:

@CourtJester Then you're alone in that party. It's not known for consistency... https://youtu.be/Not-wdJvG-Y

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CourtJester comments on Aug 30, 2020:

Not a fan of Christians, but I love what the kid did and how he reacted. I’m more upset that he’s being prosecuted for it.

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 30, 2020:

It's stuff like this that tells me the divide in this country will never, ever be rectified. That there can be two polar opposite opinions about this is baffling. I wonder what the right-wing media would be saying is if Kyle was black or if one of his stray bullets hit a Republican or a cop. He'd probably be a thug.

A PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: I'm sure most of you don't do this, but if you do or know of someone...

K9Kohle789 comments on Aug 30, 2020:

On ebay they have that because the selling is probably hard right now. The person has a price of it's worth/value so he states it $100 but since he realizes he probably won't get that price due to slow sales he'll take best offer. So people can make him an offer and he can accept it or reject it if ...

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 30, 2020:

@K9Kohle789 We listed several ways by owner first, I honestly don't remember where, but ultimately needed help. It's a group of young guys that travel around to sell houses, and they're very good, but they are selective in what houses they'll represent. I'll see if I can dig up the name.

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jlynn37 comments on Aug 30, 2020:

If there was an item for sale that I wanted and I thought it was a fair asking price, I would pay the asking price and be done with it.

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 30, 2020:

My buddy's GF is the exact same. She was appalled that her BF and I negotiated an additional $20 off an item that we would have still bought if the seller said no. And, of course, there's something to that. Even at asking price it was a good deal for us. If the seller had gotten another offer for asking or $10 less and we missed out, we would have felt like idiots.

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Cutiebeauty comments on Aug 30, 2020:

I reserve the right to reject any offer(s) for any reason

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 30, 2020:

@lerlo "Best offer" does not mean "Highest offer". What gave you that idea? A cash offer of $90 today when the buyer will drive to me is way BETTER than a check for $100 next week that I have to go pick up.

A PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: I'm sure most of you don't do this, but if you do or know of someone...

K9Kohle789 comments on Aug 30, 2020:

On ebay they have that because the selling is probably hard right now. The person has a price of it's worth/value so he states it $100 but since he realizes he probably won't get that price due to slow sales he'll take best offer. So people can make him an offer and he can accept it or reject it if ...

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 30, 2020:

@lerlo Again, there are tons of reasons to augment listing prices and stating (or in the case of property, assuming) an OBO on it. We decided to list a house below market value * and what it ultimately ended up selling for * for two very good reasons. 1. It put it into two adjacent categories of search results (e.g. 275,000-300,000 and 300,000-325,000) generating more views. 2. More views equaled more people at the open house at the same time which drove up urgency, desire, and ultimately led to a bidding war. There are tons of other psychological factors that also play into stuff like this like FOMO, thrill of winning, pride, etc. People do not use logic very often. Hell, I cannot tell you how many times I've seen people bid up items on eBay higher than the same item available with a Buy-it-Now.

COMMUNITY GUIDELINE DISCUSSION: WHAT ARE OUR "RULES"?

hankster comments on Aug 30, 2020:

??? Suggestion for a guideline- Honor others' dignity and cultivate your own humility

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 30, 2020:

@hankster Reasonable evidence provided upon request is a suggestion * you're * making for a new rule? Wasn't it just yesterday that I politely asked you to support a claim and then you refused and blocked me?

Here’s a question.

codyMW comments on Aug 30, 2020:

i dont know dude sounds like you want to be a cult member

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 30, 2020:

Leader?

Here’s a question.

hazhapard comments on Aug 30, 2020:

Describing oneself as an atheist is solely about one particular thing you **don't** believe in - i.e. theism. It has nothing to do with what any given atheist **does** believe in. I think it would be a fool's errand to try to find any commonality of belief among atheists besides our atheism. My ...

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 30, 2020:

Yeah, we can't even agree on the definitions of the words we use as labels... 😝

Would you like to block me, too?

TheMiddleWay comments on Aug 29, 2020:

What would you like to happen as a result of our thoughts? For example, let's assume we agree that that block was ill-given, unwarranted, and petty. What actions are required IYO of the site and customer service moving forward? Conversely, let's assume we don't agree that those blocks were ...

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 30, 2020:

@TheMiddleWay I wasn't suggesting we regulate blocks. However, if it were up to me, I don't know that I'd have that option on a debate site (no one thinks this is a dating site anymore, do they) or at minimum, I'd fix it so you couldn't block and continue to respond without them getting to defend themselves. If you weren't doing something ban-worthy, though, why should you be getting blocked. A. I agree. It * is * hard to pin down, which is why admin has to dedicate resources to investigate every single report. So whether * we * find it frivolous is irrelevant. However, in this case, it seems almost impossible to surmise admin would find it anything * but * frivolous. * She * used vulgar language, I did not. * She * incited others to attack and report me. Yet she reported * me * for breaking community standards. B. She's still here, and from the looks of it, she's been doing stuff like this for a while. Others on this very thread have reported very similar stories, and given the proof I have above, there's no reason to doubt their accounts of her behavior. It could be true that she hasn't called the [chrome] kettle black enough times to warrant a ban yet, but that begs the question, if it wasn't enough yet, will it ever be enough? C. One could be happy/complacent/tolerant of a certain level of something, but that doesn't mean it wouldn't be better if there was less. There is a legal allowance for insect parts and rodent hairs in our food, but I think we all wish there was less, right? I'm sure it's at least a mental calculation if not a written formula admin uses to determine the best uses of resources between chasing down frivolous reports and alternative options, but if there was something the community could do to help alleviate some of that calculating and resource expenditure, it would be beneficial for all. Being aware of, and collectively condemning (or at minimum, refusing to take part in) such behavior is a good start. Even if there weren't financial aspects to this problem, it would still make the community a better place to be. Notice MissKathleen below say "this" is why she participates less. It seems as though she was alluding to my post, but whether she knows or admits it, what she doesn't like is a direct result of LiterateHiker's irrational behavior. If she hadn't been vulgar, rude, hypocritical, and reporting inappropriately, this post wouldn't even exist. Another way to think about the "happy with this amount of reporting" potential: imagine for a moment the community started policing itself a little better and less frivolous reports were logged. Can you picture admin thinking, "I wish there were more reports for me to deal with like there used to be"?

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TomMcGiverin comments on Aug 29, 2020:

Even if he doesn't go to prison, he'll need the money to go into hiding and get a new identity, because if he doesn't, I bet someone is going to hunt him down and kill him. And he'll deserve it.

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 29, 2020:

@TomMcGiverin Oh, me too. But what about this country this year makes you think something appropriate will happen?

Christian Crowdfunding Site Hosts Drive For Alleged Kenosha Gunman

Fred_Snerd comments on Aug 29, 2020:

“Kyle Rittenhouse just defended himself from a brutal attack by multiple members of the far-leftist group ANTIFA – the experience was undoubtedly a brutal one, as he was forced to take two lives to defend his own,” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P83DMziX1gA

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 29, 2020:

@IAJO163 Uugh, you're not kidding. That shit was awful.

Christian Crowdfunding Site Hosts Drive For Alleged Kenosha Gunman

TomMcGiverin comments on Aug 29, 2020:

Even if he doesn't go to prison, he'll need the money to go into hiding and get a new identity, because if he doesn't, I bet someone is going to hunt him down and kill him. And he'll deserve it.

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 29, 2020:

A million cops have gotten away with murder and I doubt any of them had to go into hiding. The right is propping this kid up as a hero. He may go to prison because he doesn't have a badge, but either way he'll be fine.

Christian Crowdfunding Site Hosts Drive For Alleged Kenosha Gunman

Triphid comments on Aug 29, 2020:

Wtf is wrong with Americans, a 17 y.o. goes berserk with a Military style Assault rifle killing and wounding people and No-one wants Gun Control? How many other killings have occurred over the last few years or so where school kids and innocents have been slaughtered and yet so many of you hang on ...

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 29, 2020:

It seems like the Republicans are trying that too. 😝

Would you like to block me, too?

TheMiddleWay comments on Aug 29, 2020:

What would you like to happen as a result of our thoughts? For example, let's assume we agree that that block was ill-given, unwarranted, and petty. What actions are required IYO of the site and customer service moving forward? Conversely, let's assume we don't agree that those blocks were ...

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 29, 2020:

Oh, oops, I thought I was bringing this directly to the attention of members. I wasn't aware the sections were anything other than labels is the general content of the post. With that in mind, I just thought it was the only section I thought it fit in. If I didn't have to pick one, I wouldn't have. At any rate, she already involved admins in this nonsense, so... Honestly, my best hope is that people who think she was in the right in this interaction even though she was rude, vulgar, conniving, and hypocritical will say so and then block me. As you can most assuredly attest, I have no problem disagreeing with someone, so it's not about only being surrounded by people that think like me. It is, however, about being around people who have reasons for what they think and say and support them logically. The more people who don't conduct themselves in this manner that block me, the better my experience will be in the future. Now that you bring it up, however, there probably * should * be consequences for inappropriately reporting people (and encouraging others to do the same). Admins have to address each of these reports and assess whether or not they have any merit. The more resources they put into that, the less they can put into other things that would be beneficial to the community at large. (Similar to how you're not allowed to "prank call" 9-1-1.) Thank you for your comment. I knew I could count on you for a middle way kind of take like that. 😝

Would you like to block me, too?

JuniorMadame comments on Aug 29, 2020:

the only thing you're wrong about, is taking yourself as seriously as she takes herself. Its a personality disorder you don't want, no matter how attractive it seems, and how many people on this site are at least tinged with it. Stay strong.

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 29, 2020:

Thank you. You're right. I contemplated just ignoring all of it, but this kind of thing keeps happening on this site (I'm not on any other social media, but I imagine it happens everywhere). Anyway, after I reread it and saw I wasn't even snarky (like I know I can be) I thought I was losing my mind that so many people agreed with her considering how irrational and nonsensical she was being. Hoping I can get anyone who would think she was in the right there to block me now in the hopes it will reduce the likelihood of this happening again or at least as frequently.

Would you like to block me, too?

Fred_Snerd comments on Aug 29, 2020:

There's definitely some snootiness going on at agnostic.com. As the election draws near, the showpeople try to secure their positions of power. It's a blessing being blocked. That means less assholes to deal with. Also, you can see their comments in private browsing and innocently challenge them ...

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 29, 2020:

That's a really good point. It prevents me from inadvertantly interacting with someone that's disingenuous, conniving, and irrational. I hope anyone who thinks she was in the right, comments as such and blocks me too. I don't want an echo chamber, I just want to discuss stuff with people that can back up their positions logically.

Would you like to block me, too?

hankster comments on Aug 29, 2020:

Sounds to me like a pissing contest is all it amounts too.

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 29, 2020:

@hankster Can't say I didn't at least try to understand. Anyway, thank you for what you did share.

The choices this time are so depressing, I might just sit this one out. 🙄🍷

K9Kohle789 comments on Aug 29, 2020:

Vote or else!!!https://www.forbes.com/sites/omribenshahar/2016/11/17/the-non-voters-who-decided-the-election-trump-won-because-of-lower-democratic-turnout/#3b24526f53ab The Non-Voters Who Decided The Election: Trump Won Because Of Lower Democratic Turnout So if you're republican stay home and ...

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 29, 2020:

@Sgt_Spanky Nooo. If people can't see the value in voting, you really want them at the polls? By force no less? That will result in catastrophe.

The choices this time are so depressing, I might just sit this one out. 🙄🍷

think-beyond comments on Aug 29, 2020:

The way it works in this large country, it that we pick the better of the two knowing it isn't perfect. It can never be perfect with so many different points of view, points if interests, and points of need. We need your vote. Sitting it out is also a vote. So you can't win that way. Right now we ...

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 29, 2020:

He's voting for Trump.

The choices this time are so depressing, I might just sit this one out. 🙄🍷

KevinMR comments on Aug 29, 2020:

If everyone sat out in protest of the f'd up system which routinely gives us poor choices maybe we could get actual change for the better. I don't see another way anymore. All we're doing is becoming more tribal and that trend will not change until independent thinkers get into power.

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 29, 2020:

There is no such thing as * everyone * sitting out an election. The votes that actually elect the president are not cast by people as citizens.

The choices this time are so depressing, I might just sit this one out. 🙄🍷

FunkHead comments on Aug 29, 2020:

Please don't sit this one out. They're both pieces of trash, but one of these potential presidents will continue the cycle of spreading homicidally bad misinformation, perpetuating the smear campaign against the media and science, and continue to allow unmarked government vehicles snatch people up ...

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 29, 2020:

Above, he stated that he won't fence-sit and has decided that Trump is the better choice...

Would you like to block me, too?

hankster comments on Aug 29, 2020:

Sounds to me like a pissing contest is all it amounts too.

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 29, 2020:

@hankster Not at all. Cutie stated it didn't matter what her thoughts were. I let it go. But you came out and said that in your opinion, I lose. If you're going to declare a verdict, I just think it would be nice if you'd at least explain why you sided that way.

Would you like to block me, too?

hankster comments on Aug 29, 2020:

Sounds to me like a pissing contest is all it amounts too.

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 29, 2020:

@hankster Except I'm asking to hear it... If you have a good reason, you should share it.

Would you like to block me, too?

hankster comments on Aug 29, 2020:

Sounds to me like a pissing contest is all it amounts too.

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 29, 2020:

@FearlessFly Well, it kinda seems like you already know the score then. I've seen your responses countless times and not once have they come across as rude, vulgar, or deserving of banning/blocking. The fact that she blocked you as well means you probably challenged her in a way she was too fragile to handle and couldn't formulate a counterargument to. I posted the gist above. The photographic evidence, though unfortunately illegible to you, should at minimum suggest that I'm not lying about what transpired. If anyone would like them emailed, however, I could do that as well.

Would you like to block me, too?

hankster comments on Aug 29, 2020:

Sounds to me like a pissing contest is all it amounts too.

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 29, 2020:

@hankster I would appreciate hearing your reasoning considering she was being vulgar and rude and I was just arguing a position that wasn't even my own.

Would you like to block me, too?

MissKathleen comments on Aug 29, 2020:

THIS is why I participate less these days.

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 29, 2020:

My post, or how poorly she mischaracterized our interaction in her own post and how she reported me yet she was the one that was vulgar?

Would you like to block me, too?

hankster comments on Aug 29, 2020:

Sounds to me like a pissing contest is all it amounts too.

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 29, 2020:

@FearlessFly I just realized that. I posted smaller segments. I am being told the original post is still up, so she may have blocked you, too.

Would you like to block me, too?

ZantiMisfit comments on Aug 29, 2020:

I read through your interactions in the link above. I saw no insulting behavior on your part. I wouldn't worry about it.

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 29, 2020:

Thank you.

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hankster comments on Aug 29, 2020:

Sounds to me like a pissing contest is all it amounts too.

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 29, 2020:

@FearlessFly I posted screenshots of the the entire thread.

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Cutiebeauty comments on Aug 29, 2020:

Apparently, you don't understand the use of apparently...

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 29, 2020:

I'm fine with you not agreeing about the nuances of that discussion; as I said, I agreed with her and was just playing devil's advocate. But do you think my conduct was deserving of being reported for banning or broke community guidelines?

Would you like to block me, too?

hankster comments on Aug 29, 2020:

Sounds to me like a pissing contest is all it amounts too.

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 29, 2020:

@hankster I hear you there. People don't do anything the way they should based on fairness.

Would you like to block me, too?

hankster comments on Aug 29, 2020:

Sounds to me like a pissing contest is all it amounts too.

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 29, 2020:

Very true. But did I deserve to be blocked or reported for my level of urination?

"Pray for Louisiana and Texas" This was a Facebook post by a woman I've known for many years and I ...

ChestRockfield comments on Aug 27, 2020:

This is kind of the go to meme to post on shit like that.

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 29, 2020:

@lerlo I'm a nurse, not a doctor. Unless you were being facetious. In which case I'm sorry I bothered, I was only trying to help.

One of my biggest issues with Christianity is the viral aspect—the directive to all believers to ...

ChestRockfield comments on Aug 26, 2020:

> Let them believe what they want. I have a fundamental problem with this. There are a million reasons this shouldn't be a policy everyone follows.

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 28, 2020:

@AgeofReason Again, to be clear, my fundamental problem is with the philosophy that has an inability to object to others beliefs/practices, it said nothing of preventing or banning. I think you are again missing the fact that it is impossible to control what other people believe. I don't even believe it's possible to control what you believe yourself, so I would never suggest or endorse a position or philosophy that includes such a thing. I think we agree on a lot more than this thread seems to suggest.

And we don't bitch about it because we fully understand we're responsible for making life and death ...

LucyLoohoo comments on Aug 26, 2020:

BRILLIANT! I'll share with every nurse I know! Doctors prescribe....NURSES HEAL!

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 28, 2020:

@Amzungu I think the nurse managers have a lot to do with it with the culture they create and promote and how hard they go to bat for their staff.

"Pray for Louisiana and Texas" This was a Facebook post by a woman I've known for many years and I ...

ChestRockfield comments on Aug 27, 2020:

This is kind of the go to meme to post on shit like that.

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 28, 2020:

@lerlo Oh this is an online-only friendship? Regardless, you are walking on eggshells so much so that you needed to vent here about censoring yourself. That doesn't seem healthy for you. I say post what you wanted to, and whatever happens, you're better off.

"Pray for Louisiana and Texas" This was a Facebook post by a woman I've known for many years and I ...

ChestRockfield comments on Aug 27, 2020:

This is kind of the go to meme to post on shit like that.

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 28, 2020:

@lerlo I did. What I was alluding to was that if you're walking on eggshells all the time, it's already not a friendship.

"Pray for Louisiana and Texas" This was a Facebook post by a woman I've known for many years and I ...

nicknotes comments on Aug 27, 2020:

The Christians voted for Trump and he says Climate Change is a Chinese hoax. Don't the Christians realize the hurricanes are getting more powerful due to climate change?