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I had an interesting conversation today.
KKGator comments on Oct 29, 2019:
You don't.
I refuse to entertain their delusions anymore.
If anyone who knows me, who knows I'm an atheist, who still insists on trying to "get through" to me, I'm going to go straight for the jugular.
I'm not going to be the bigger person anymore.
If they're going to disrespect me, they ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 29, 2019:
Well said, I could not agree more
KKGator comments on Oct 29, 2019:
You don't.
I refuse to entertain their delusions anymore.
If anyone who knows me, who knows I'm an atheist, who still insists on trying to "get through" to me, I'm going to go straight for the jugular.
I'm not going to be the bigger person anymore.
If they're going to disrespect me, they ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 29, 2019:
Well said, I could not agree more
I had an interesting conversation today.
Norman347 comments on Oct 29, 2019:
Doesn't matter what you believe. She has hers and she expressed it. No need to take offense. It hurts no one to do as you did and be civil. I get this from my religious friends. I take it as their way of showing they care. If they didn't they wouldn't say anything. People today seem to be ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 29, 2019:
NO, what she is doing is saying if you do not repent you will go to Hell, you need to be saved and I am going to do it.
This means she not only believes in eternal punishment for finite offenses, but believes genuinely that @Trussell2069 DESERVES to burn for all eternity for expressing his atheism
I find that incredibly evil, almost as evil as worshiping a being you believe would do that to ANYONE, especial for nothing more than not believing in a creature that refuses to prove it's own existence.
I never bring the subject up but when and if people insist on trying preaching on me I warn them once that they do not want to discuss this with me, if they still insist they get both barrels of my disgust.
Norman347 comments on Oct 29, 2019:
Doesn't matter what you believe. She has hers and she expressed it. No need to take offense. It hurts no one to do as you did and be civil. I get this from my religious friends. I take it as their way of showing they care. If they didn't they wouldn't say anything. People today seem to be ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 29, 2019:
NO, what she is doing is saying if you do not repent you will go to Hell, you need to be saved and I am going to do it.
This means she not only believes in eternal punishment for finite offenses, but believes genuinely that @Trussell2069 DESERVES to burn for all eternity for expressing his atheism
I find that incredibly evil, almost as evil as worshiping a being you believe would do that to ANYONE, especial for nothing more than not believing in a creature that refuses to prove it's own existence.
I never bring the subject up but when and if people insist on trying preaching on me I warn them once that they do not want to discuss this with me, if they still insist they get both barrels of my disgust.
Ambisinistrous.-adjective: Equally clumsy or unskilled with both hands.
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 29, 2019:
It is horrifying that left handedness has be so demonized for so long that the word Sinister (left) has become synonymous with terror, evil and ineptitude
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 29, 2019:
@Mostly_Harmless Exactly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUfaQiF7Aq0
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 29, 2019:
It is horrifying that left handedness has be so demonized for so long that the word Sinister (left) has become synonymous with terror, evil and ineptitude
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 29, 2019:
@Mostly_Harmless Exactly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUfaQiF7Aq0
Ambisinistrous.-adjective: Equally clumsy or unskilled with both hands.
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 29, 2019:
It is horrifying that left handedness has be so demonized for so long that the word Sinister (left) has become synonymous with terror, evil and ineptitude
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 29, 2019:
@Mostly_Harmless Leftyphobia predates Christianity and the bible does not mention lefties, I think persecuting the left handed was just an excuse for sadist monks and Nuns to hit children. My father suffered terribly from cane happy teachers whacking his head and hands for being a devilish lefty.
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 29, 2019:
It is horrifying that left handedness has be so demonized for so long that the word Sinister (left) has become synonymous with terror, evil and ineptitude
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 29, 2019:
@Mostly_Harmless Leftyphobia predates Christianity and the bible does not mention lefties, I think persecuting the left handed was just an excuse for sadist monks and Nuns to hit children. My father suffered terribly from cane happy teachers whacking his head and hands for being a devilish lefty.
Ah those women ;)
AnonySchmoose comments on Oct 29, 2019:
The reaction of men to women who rebuff them can be resentment.
How that resentment transformed into historical incidents would be fascinating to know.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 29, 2019:
The contrary also applies hence the maxim "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned"
AnonySchmoose comments on Oct 29, 2019:
The reaction of men to women who rebuff them can be resentment.
How that resentment transformed into historical incidents would be fascinating to know.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 29, 2019:
The contrary also applies hence the maxim "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned"
Ah those women ;)
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 29, 2019:
May I ask have you read Niccolò Machiavelli's
Discourses on the first Ten (Books) of Titus Livius?
Perhaps if you had you would know that chapter 26 of book three is actually called
HOW ***A*** STATE IS RUINED BECAUSE OF WOMEN
and refers to a specific incident of a civil war being caused...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 29, 2019:
@Friskycat
Well for one thing he has been dead since 1527
For another the chapter is not an accusation of anything, it is an account
And finally the story is only being commented on by Machiavelli and was in fact written down by Titus Livius who died in 17CE
So in short, no he should not have because he had neither the right nor any reason to do so.
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 29, 2019:
May I ask have you read Niccolò Machiavelli's
Discourses on the first Ten (Books) of Titus Livius?
Perhaps if you had you would know that chapter 26 of book three is actually called
HOW ***A*** STATE IS RUINED BECAUSE OF WOMEN
and refers to a specific incident of a civil war being caused...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 29, 2019:
@Friskycat
Well for one thing he has been dead since 1527
For another the chapter is not an accusation of anything, it is an account
And finally the story is only being commented on by Machiavelli and was in fact written down by Titus Livius who died in 17CE
So in short, no he should not have because he had neither the right nor any reason to do so.
REQUIESCAT (noun)
1.
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 29, 2019:
I am very familliar with this one as I wrote and published a story with the title "Requiescat In Pace" some years ago, if you will forgive the shameless self promotion it can be found in this anthology
...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 29, 2019:
@AnonySchmoose just message me with where you want it e-mailed to.
The story is an attempt to play with gothic themes in a modern(ish) setting
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 29, 2019:
I am very familliar with this one as I wrote and published a story with the title "Requiescat In Pace" some years ago, if you will forgive the shameless self promotion it can be found in this anthology
...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 29, 2019:
@AnonySchmoose just message me with where you want it e-mailed to.
The story is an attempt to play with gothic themes in a modern(ish) setting
REQUIESCAT (noun)
1.
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 29, 2019:
I am very familliar with this one as I wrote and published a story with the title "Requiescat In Pace" some years ago, if you will forgive the shameless self promotion it can be found in this anthology
...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 29, 2019:
@AnonySchmoose I can send you a copy if you would like
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 29, 2019:
I am very familliar with this one as I wrote and published a story with the title "Requiescat In Pace" some years ago, if you will forgive the shameless self promotion it can be found in this anthology
...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 29, 2019:
@AnonySchmoose I can send you a copy if you would like
REQUIESCAT (noun)
1.
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 29, 2019:
I am very familliar with this one as I wrote and published a story with the title "Requiescat In Pace" some years ago, if you will forgive the shameless self promotion it can be found in this anthology
...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 29, 2019:
@AnonySchmoose sorry here is the correct link (I hope)
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Spirit-Poe-Charitable-Anthology-ebook/dp/B008QPTVFQ/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=the+spirit+of+Poe+anthology=1572372431&sr=8-1
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 29, 2019:
I am very familliar with this one as I wrote and published a story with the title "Requiescat In Pace" some years ago, if you will forgive the shameless self promotion it can be found in this anthology
...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 29, 2019:
@AnonySchmoose sorry here is the correct link (I hope)
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Spirit-Poe-Charitable-Anthology-ebook/dp/B008QPTVFQ/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=the+spirit+of+Poe+anthology=1572372431&sr=8-1
@Admin may I point out that new member AaronAgassi
is answering many post with links to ...
Cutiebeauty comments on Oct 28, 2019:
Did you click that link?
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 29, 2019:
@Cutiebeauty each to their own
Cutiebeauty comments on Oct 28, 2019:
Did you click that link?
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 29, 2019:
@Cutiebeauty each to their own
[history.com]
Are you prepared for a zombie apocalypse?
starwatcher-al comments on Oct 29, 2019:
Zombies are REAL. We call them republicans.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 29, 2019:
which explains why they are always craving brains, we all want what we cannot have
starwatcher-al comments on Oct 29, 2019:
Zombies are REAL. We call them republicans.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 29, 2019:
which explains why they are always craving brains, we all want what we cannot have
@Admin may I point out that new member AaronAgassi
is answering many post with links to ...
Cutiebeauty comments on Oct 28, 2019:
Did you click that link?
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 28, 2019:
Yes some of his links lead to other pages on the same site, it is all pretty silly
Cutiebeauty comments on Oct 28, 2019:
Did you click that link?
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 28, 2019:
Yes some of his links lead to other pages on the same site, it is all pretty silly
Adult Virgins
UUNJ comments on Jul 10, 2018:
The Incel thing isn’t about virginity. It’s about self-hatred and hatred for women. They blame women for their lack of access to sex. They believe women owe them sexual access. It’s disgusting and scary that this movement is growing.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 28, 2019:
You may be interested to know that the phenomena is not purely a straight white male phenomenon, there are gay incels of both sexes and a growing awareness of "femcels" straight female incels who are banding together and forming groups on the internet to be just as hateful to men as there male equivalent are to women or other gay men.
It is loneliness born of a fear to interact manifesting in frustration and childish vitriol
Basically there is nothing new about this Rick Mayall and Ade Edmondson were taking the mick out of these pathetic losers years ago in their TV and stage show "Bottom"
UUNJ comments on Jul 10, 2018:
The Incel thing isn’t about virginity. It’s about self-hatred and hatred for women. They blame women for their lack of access to sex. They believe women owe them sexual access. It’s disgusting and scary that this movement is growing.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 28, 2019:
You may be interested to know that the phenomena is not purely a straight white male phenomenon, there are gay incels of both sexes and a growing awareness of "femcels" straight female incels who are banding together and forming groups on the internet to be just as hateful to men as there male equivalent are to women or other gay men.
It is loneliness born of a fear to interact manifesting in frustration and childish vitriol
Basically there is nothing new about this Rick Mayall and Ade Edmondson were taking the mick out of these pathetic losers years ago in their TV and stage show "Bottom"
Flexibility?
altschmerz comments on Oct 28, 2019:
I think I read somewhere that the reason they don’t let priests marry is because that way the church inherits their property when they die, rather than their wives and kids. Pah, the Eastern Orthodox Church *encourages* priests to marry because it is thought that the actual head of a household ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 28, 2019:
@altschmerz The old joke being that nuns are called Nuns because
They ain't had nun
don't want nun
and sure as hell aint gonna get nun dressed like that
altschmerz comments on Oct 28, 2019:
I think I read somewhere that the reason they don’t let priests marry is because that way the church inherits their property when they die, rather than their wives and kids. Pah, the Eastern Orthodox Church *encourages* priests to marry because it is thought that the actual head of a household ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 28, 2019:
@altschmerz The old joke being that nuns are called Nuns because
They ain't had nun
don't want nun
and sure as hell aint gonna get nun dressed like that
Nincompoop...
Definition : Donald Trump
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 28, 2019:
A contraction and colloquial version of the legal term "non compos mentis" meaning mentally incompetent
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 28, 2019:
@Cutiebeauty
He probably thinks is it a place for incompetent chickens to use as a latrine, if he could stop sniggering over the word poop for long enough to think at all.
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 28, 2019:
A contraction and colloquial version of the legal term "non compos mentis" meaning mentally incompetent
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 28, 2019:
@Cutiebeauty
He probably thinks is it a place for incompetent chickens to use as a latrine, if he could stop sniggering over the word poop for long enough to think at all.
WUNDERKIND--A person who achieves great success when relatively young
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 28, 2019:
During the 1930s Hitler's determination to breed perfect Wunderkind to run the fourth Reich resulted in the filthy "Sonnenkind Projekt" to produce Eugenically "perfect Aryan children"
Later parodied in the Star Trek episode and film "Space Seed" and "Wrath of Khan"
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 28, 2019:
@altschmerz No she was not, however she was the daughter of a Norwegian Mother and an occupying Nazi soldier (some sources say it was a rape)named sergeant Alfred Haase and she only discovered this many years later believing herself a Swedish National.
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 28, 2019:
During the 1930s Hitler's determination to breed perfect Wunderkind to run the fourth Reich resulted in the filthy "Sonnenkind Projekt" to produce Eugenically "perfect Aryan children"
Later parodied in the Star Trek episode and film "Space Seed" and "Wrath of Khan"
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 28, 2019:
@altschmerz No she was not, however she was the daughter of a Norwegian Mother and an occupying Nazi soldier (some sources say it was a rape)named sergeant Alfred Haase and she only discovered this many years later believing herself a Swedish National.
My journey to becoming an Agnostic.
David1955 comments on Oct 25, 2019:
Well great, but i hope you follow your atheist father, eventually.
Arguments along the lines of "I can't be sure.." and "science can't show me there isn't a god, so I'll be agnostic" don't cut it for me. Science explores what exists, not to prove what doesn't exist."
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 27, 2019:
@Norman347
"Atheism is just another religion." you say?
Atheism is a religion in exactly the same way celibacy is a sexual position.
You labour under the misconception that you know what you are talking about when you define atheists and that you can dictate to long time atheist what they do or do not believe and what they do or do not have faith in.
Have you any idea how arrogant that makes you sound?
You sound just like a religious troll, spouting the same old Christian arguments without the courage to actually be a theist or at least admit you are one.
Atheist simple means without god(s) it means nothing else, does not connote a materialist or anything else. Different atheist believe in anything they wish to, EXCEPT for a god or gods, that is all the word means, and as you yourself have admonished others for trying to redefine words I can only say "Physician heal thyself".
You really need to stop making a fool of yourself, you will find that people will soon tire of the attitude you have been putting forth and the best members will simply block you as a closed minded pseudo intellectual rather than engage in meaningful discussion.
David1955 comments on Oct 25, 2019:
Well great, but i hope you follow your atheist father, eventually.
Arguments along the lines of "I can't be sure.." and "science can't show me there isn't a god, so I'll be agnostic" don't cut it for me. Science explores what exists, not to prove what doesn't exist."
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 27, 2019:
@Norman347
"Atheism is just another religion." you say?
Atheism is a religion in exactly the same way celibacy is a sexual position.
You labour under the misconception that you know what you are talking about when you define atheists and that you can dictate to long time atheist what they do or do not believe and what they do or do not have faith in.
Have you any idea how arrogant that makes you sound?
You sound just like a religious troll, spouting the same old Christian arguments without the courage to actually be a theist or at least admit you are one.
Atheist simple means without god(s) it means nothing else, does not connote a materialist or anything else. Different atheist believe in anything they wish to, EXCEPT for a god or gods, that is all the word means, and as you yourself have admonished others for trying to redefine words I can only say "Physician heal thyself".
You really need to stop making a fool of yourself, you will find that people will soon tire of the attitude you have been putting forth and the best members will simply block you as a closed minded pseudo intellectual rather than engage in meaningful discussion.
My journey to becoming an Agnostic.
JackPedigo comments on Oct 25, 2019:
I think sometime it ourselves that keep us from taking a real stance. I was in that boat; brought up Catholic (my dad) and sent to parochial school during the elementary years. Religion was benign for most of my life and even though I had a degree in European (Christian) History I simply went along ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 27, 2019:
@Norman347
"I have seen no proof a Supreme being or the afterlife do not exist."
Hey you know what? I have seen no proof that Star farting Goblins don't exist either, but to tell the truth I don't believe they exist either.
The default position in logic for something that refuses or cannot prove it's existence is to assume it does NOT exist, until such time as evidence emerges that it does.
I can make a list of 100,000 things that have no proof of their ***non*** existence and all of them probably do not exist, what makes god so special that you need proof of his not being there when presumably without any proof whatsoever you **don't** believe in the existence of Unicorns, Pixies, Cthulhu, Daleks or Noddy and Big Ears?
JackPedigo comments on Oct 25, 2019:
I think sometime it ourselves that keep us from taking a real stance. I was in that boat; brought up Catholic (my dad) and sent to parochial school during the elementary years. Religion was benign for most of my life and even though I had a degree in European (Christian) History I simply went along ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 27, 2019:
@Norman347
"I have seen no proof a Supreme being or the afterlife do not exist."
Hey you know what? I have seen no proof that Star farting Goblins don't exist either, but to tell the truth I don't believe they exist either.
The default position in logic for something that refuses or cannot prove it's existence is to assume it does NOT exist, until such time as evidence emerges that it does.
I can make a list of 100,000 things that have no proof of their ***non*** existence and all of them probably do not exist, what makes god so special that you need proof of his not being there when presumably without any proof whatsoever you **don't** believe in the existence of Unicorns, Pixies, Cthulhu, Daleks or Noddy and Big Ears?
A simple syllogism- if evil exists there cannot be a god both benevolent and all powerful
Some ...
Clare comments on Oct 27, 2019:
No god, no worries. Evil is a matter of perspective.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 27, 2019:
or context and circumstance
Clare comments on Oct 27, 2019:
No god, no worries. Evil is a matter of perspective.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 27, 2019:
or context and circumstance
Conservative Christian Activist Warns Masturbation Is Gay Sex | Michael Stone
Jolanta comments on Jun 18, 2019:
In that case all males are gay.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 27, 2019:
"I'm not gay but I don't mind helping out when they are busy" Kenneth Williams
Jolanta comments on Jun 18, 2019:
In that case all males are gay.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 27, 2019:
"I'm not gay but I don't mind helping out when they are busy" Kenneth Williams
A simple syllogism- if evil exists there cannot be a god both benevolent and all powerful
Some ...
RiverRick comments on Oct 27, 2019:
Why do people post this stuff? We already know there isn't a god. Why do people like to post stuff still asking questions?
Whatever your question is... The answer is, THERE IS NO GOD!
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 27, 2019:
@Storm1752 @RiverRick
If there is a god(s) it provides no evidence for itself, and seems to actively hide, does not interfere or intervene in any way shape or form suggesting it either cannot or will not do so.
In any such case it's existence or nonexistence become inconsequential and leaves us with the choice of a deity that either does not exists or may as well not exist, rendering the phrase
"there is no actual god or apposite god. " perfectly legitimate
RiverRick comments on Oct 27, 2019:
Why do people post this stuff? We already know there isn't a god. Why do people like to post stuff still asking questions?
Whatever your question is... The answer is, THERE IS NO GOD!
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 27, 2019:
@Storm1752 @RiverRick
If there is a god(s) it provides no evidence for itself, and seems to actively hide, does not interfere or intervene in any way shape or form suggesting it either cannot or will not do so.
In any such case it's existence or nonexistence become inconsequential and leaves us with the choice of a deity that either does not exists or may as well not exist, rendering the phrase
"there is no actual god or apposite god. " perfectly legitimate
A simple syllogism- if evil exists there cannot be a god both benevolent and all powerful
Some ...
TheoryNumber3 comments on Oct 27, 2019:
If there is a god, his greatest creation is Liam Hemsworth. Am I right ladies?
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 27, 2019:
Surely you are forgetting John Barrowman and that is before you start considering the ladies.
TheoryNumber3 comments on Oct 27, 2019:
If there is a god, his greatest creation is Liam Hemsworth. Am I right ladies?
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 27, 2019:
Surely you are forgetting John Barrowman and that is before you start considering the ladies.
The idea that everything is preordained, that the world unfolds according to "God's plan" I see as ...
Geoffrey51 comments on Oct 27, 2019:
So what happens if every action has a reaction?
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 27, 2019:
The wise make their decisions based on the consequences
Geoffrey51 comments on Oct 27, 2019:
So what happens if every action has a reaction?
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 27, 2019:
The wise make their decisions based on the consequences
UNCONTROVERTIBLY.
altschmerz comments on Oct 26, 2019:
I'm watching the news right now, and a Scientologist just bought downtown Clearwater in Florida. SO, uncontrovertibly, I will never, ever, ever move or visit there.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 27, 2019:
I think perhaps one can accurately measure the amount of gullibility in the world as being directly proportionate to the wealth of the church of Scientology.
altschmerz comments on Oct 26, 2019:
I'm watching the news right now, and a Scientologist just bought downtown Clearwater in Florida. SO, uncontrovertibly, I will never, ever, ever move or visit there.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 27, 2019:
I think perhaps one can accurately measure the amount of gullibility in the world as being directly proportionate to the wealth of the church of Scientology.
Stephen Hawking famously said that "Philosophy is dead." What do you think?
gater comments on Oct 25, 2019:
Hawking and Einstein are morons next to Aristotle.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 26, 2019:
@gater yeah whatever you say diddums
gater comments on Oct 25, 2019:
Hawking and Einstein are morons next to Aristotle.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 26, 2019:
@gater yeah whatever you say diddums
A lady came into my work place, wearing a god is perfect hoodie.
MattHardy comments on Oct 26, 2019:
I'm all about religious tolerance - as long as she's promoting her beliefs rather than denigrating others' then I'm fine with it. Headscarves, crosses, hoodies, turbans or colanders . All fine by me.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 26, 2019:
@MattHardy Tolerating intolerance is a sure way to wake up and find yourself living in a totalitarian dictatorship.
Tolerance is only effective to a certain level, beyond that it is a very dangerous practice.
Would you have asked the Jews to tolerate the death camps, because, well you know them Nazis, the little scamps.
MattHardy comments on Oct 26, 2019:
I'm all about religious tolerance - as long as she's promoting her beliefs rather than denigrating others' then I'm fine with it. Headscarves, crosses, hoodies, turbans or colanders . All fine by me.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 26, 2019:
@MattHardy Tolerating intolerance is a sure way to wake up and find yourself living in a totalitarian dictatorship.
Tolerance is only effective to a certain level, beyond that it is a very dangerous practice.
Would you have asked the Jews to tolerate the death camps, because, well you know them Nazis, the little scamps.
Has this season of Brexit jumped the shark?
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 26, 2019:
The serious problem with this attitude is that it is exactly how a significant minority of people ARE treating the who brexit mess AS A GAME.
It is not a game
it is the future of the nation
It is the lives and wellbeing of our families
it is the economic future
The encouragement of people ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 26, 2019:
@MattHardy I'll make jokes about almost anything, but this...this is beyond mockery, for mockery will only lessen the import of the situation and this situation is too fucking dangerous for generations to come to be in any way lessened, or made light of.
Get this wrong and people are going to die because of it, not just die but die in the worst ways possible, death by easily curable disease, starvation, poverty, street violence and possibly even civil war.
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 26, 2019:
The serious problem with this attitude is that it is exactly how a significant minority of people ARE treating the who brexit mess AS A GAME.
It is not a game
it is the future of the nation
It is the lives and wellbeing of our families
it is the economic future
The encouragement of people ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 26, 2019:
@MattHardy I'll make jokes about almost anything, but this...this is beyond mockery, for mockery will only lessen the import of the situation and this situation is too fucking dangerous for generations to come to be in any way lessened, or made light of.
Get this wrong and people are going to die because of it, not just die but die in the worst ways possible, death by easily curable disease, starvation, poverty, street violence and possibly even civil war.
Has this season of Brexit jumped the shark?
Marionville comments on Oct 26, 2019:
Nothing that the Tories do is remotely amusing, this present mess we find ourselves in is just another chapter in a long saga of miscalculations and bad judgement. The Tories brought this whole sorry disaster down on us when Cameron decided we were going to have a simple binary choice ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 26, 2019:
@Marionville A coward on top of all else.
Marionville comments on Oct 26, 2019:
Nothing that the Tories do is remotely amusing, this present mess we find ourselves in is just another chapter in a long saga of miscalculations and bad judgement. The Tories brought this whole sorry disaster down on us when Cameron decided we were going to have a simple binary choice ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 26, 2019:
@Marionville A coward on top of all else.
A lady came into my work place, wearing a god is perfect hoodie.
MattHardy comments on Oct 26, 2019:
I'm all about religious tolerance - as long as she's promoting her beliefs rather than denigrating others' then I'm fine with it. Headscarves, crosses, hoodies, turbans or colanders . All fine by me.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 26, 2019:
@MattHardy Exactly the argument used by those who want religion to give them the right to be bigoted, homophobic, racist xenophobes.
"I am just promoting my religion, and the word of god as found in the bible. So kill the gays, and god will be happy and stop giving you runny noses and boils."
MattHardy comments on Oct 26, 2019:
I'm all about religious tolerance - as long as she's promoting her beliefs rather than denigrating others' then I'm fine with it. Headscarves, crosses, hoodies, turbans or colanders . All fine by me.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 26, 2019:
@MattHardy Exactly the argument used by those who want religion to give them the right to be bigoted, homophobic, racist xenophobes.
"I am just promoting my religion, and the word of god as found in the bible. So kill the gays, and god will be happy and stop giving you runny noses and boils."
Has this season of Brexit jumped the shark?
Marionville comments on Oct 26, 2019:
Nothing that the Tories do is remotely amusing, this present mess we find ourselves in is just another chapter in a long saga of miscalculations and bad judgement. The Tories brought this whole sorry disaster down on us when Cameron decided we were going to have a simple binary choice ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 26, 2019:
@Marionville The whole thing was based on Camerons arrogant belief that he could not be wrong and that there was no chance of a leave vote winning.
He failed to realise that years of tory rule, bias, institutionalised racism and Thatcherite British nationalism masquerading as patriotism had doomed his plan from the get go.
Marionville comments on Oct 26, 2019:
Nothing that the Tories do is remotely amusing, this present mess we find ourselves in is just another chapter in a long saga of miscalculations and bad judgement. The Tories brought this whole sorry disaster down on us when Cameron decided we were going to have a simple binary choice ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 26, 2019:
@Marionville The whole thing was based on Camerons arrogant belief that he could not be wrong and that there was no chance of a leave vote winning.
He failed to realise that years of tory rule, bias, institutionalised racism and Thatcherite British nationalism masquerading as patriotism had doomed his plan from the get go.
UNCONTROVERTIBLY.
Cutiebeauty comments on Oct 26, 2019:
Indubitably.... 😊
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 26, 2019:
clever
Cutiebeauty comments on Oct 26, 2019:
Indubitably.... 😊
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 26, 2019:
clever
Stephen Hawking famously said that "Philosophy is dead." What do you think?
Mb_Man comments on Oct 26, 2019:
Science is philosophy.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 26, 2019:
True is you use the word philosophy in it's literalist meaning "The love of wisdom"
Mb_Man comments on Oct 26, 2019:
Science is philosophy.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 26, 2019:
True is you use the word philosophy in it's literalist meaning "The love of wisdom"
Stephen Hawking famously said that "Philosophy is dead." What do you think?
AnneWimsey comments on Oct 25, 2019:
IMO most philosophy is a complete waste of time. Why not debate how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, a hot topic in the Middle Ages, and actually leading to severe persecution of the "losing" side of the debate! (blasphemy!)
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 26, 2019:
@AnneWimsey The most famous version of this comes from Thomas Aquinas's Summa Theologica, written c. 1270.
A theology text book.
Duns Scotus used it in a reductio ad absurdum in order to point out how ridiculous theology as a subject is and survives mostly in this context, as a joke or example of navel gazing. It has never been a philosophical contention or question.
AnneWimsey comments on Oct 25, 2019:
IMO most philosophy is a complete waste of time. Why not debate how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, a hot topic in the Middle Ages, and actually leading to severe persecution of the "losing" side of the debate! (blasphemy!)
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 26, 2019:
@AnneWimsey The most famous version of this comes from Thomas Aquinas's Summa Theologica, written c. 1270.
A theology text book.
Duns Scotus used it in a reductio ad absurdum in order to point out how ridiculous theology as a subject is and survives mostly in this context, as a joke or example of navel gazing. It has never been a philosophical contention or question.
Stephen Hawking famously said that "Philosophy is dead." What do you think?
gater comments on Oct 25, 2019:
Hawking and Einstein are morons next to Aristotle.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 25, 2019:
@gater I do, you need not further prove that you don't, you have adequately proven yourself an ignoramus since you know nothing of time dilation, Aristotle or Einstein
gater comments on Oct 25, 2019:
Hawking and Einstein are morons next to Aristotle.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 25, 2019:
@gater I do, you need not further prove that you don't, you have adequately proven yourself an ignoramus since you know nothing of time dilation, Aristotle or Einstein
Stephen Hawking famously said that "Philosophy is dead." What do you think?
AnneWimsey comments on Oct 25, 2019:
IMO most philosophy is a complete waste of time. Why not debate how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, a hot topic in the Middle Ages, and actually leading to severe persecution of the "losing" side of the debate! (blasphemy!)
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 25, 2019:
That was theology not philosophy
AnneWimsey comments on Oct 25, 2019:
IMO most philosophy is a complete waste of time. Why not debate how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, a hot topic in the Middle Ages, and actually leading to severe persecution of the "losing" side of the debate! (blasphemy!)
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 25, 2019:
That was theology not philosophy
Stephen Hawking famously said that "Philosophy is dead." What do you think?
gater comments on Oct 25, 2019:
Hawking and Einstein are morons next to Aristotle.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 25, 2019:
@gater NO he did not, Aristotle claimed the universe was made up of 53 concentric circles orbiting a stationary earth and that the earth was eternal not infinite.
And you really think the the author of the general theory of relativity did not understand gravity?
Read a book.
gater comments on Oct 25, 2019:
Hawking and Einstein are morons next to Aristotle.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 25, 2019:
@gater NO he did not, Aristotle claimed the universe was made up of 53 concentric circles orbiting a stationary earth and that the earth was eternal not infinite.
And you really think the the author of the general theory of relativity did not understand gravity?
Read a book.
Stephen Hawking famously said that "Philosophy is dead." What do you think?
gater comments on Oct 25, 2019:
Hawking and Einstein are morons next to Aristotle.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 25, 2019:
@ASTRALMAX "According to Bertrand Russell Aristotle said that women have more teeth than men."
@gater "I don't believe that."
Me: Well then you have never actually read Aristotle or Bertrand Russell then have you!
gater comments on Oct 25, 2019:
Hawking and Einstein are morons next to Aristotle.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 25, 2019:
@ASTRALMAX "According to Bertrand Russell Aristotle said that women have more teeth than men."
@gater "I don't believe that."
Me: Well then you have never actually read Aristotle or Bertrand Russell then have you!
Stephen Hawking famously said that "Philosophy is dead." What do you think?
gater comments on Oct 25, 2019:
Hawking and Einstein are morons next to Aristotle.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 25, 2019:
@gater
You mean the same Aristotle who claimed that playing the flute would turn young men gay and make young women promiscuous?
Politics – Book VIII
Or that gold falls faster than lead?
Or that spiders had six legs and were to be classified as insects?
Or Men have more teeth than women.
Or Men's blood is hotter than women's blood.
Or that some people are naturally born to be slaves, and it is just and moral to enslave them.
Or the earth is the center of the universe.
Or that the earth is and has been there for all eternity.
Or all less formers of life spontaneously come into being and don't reproduce.
Or the natural state for all objects is to be at rest; they require constant application of force to move.
Or that there are a total of seven heavenly bodies, which are perfect and never change.
Or that the heart is the organ of reason and intellect.
But this can all be explained since he honestly believed the sole function of the brain is to cool the blood.
Yes he was a real fucking genius.
gater comments on Oct 25, 2019:
Hawking and Einstein are morons next to Aristotle.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 25, 2019:
@gater
You mean the same Aristotle who claimed that playing the flute would turn young men gay and make young women promiscuous?
Politics – Book VIII
Or that gold falls faster than lead?
Or that spiders had six legs and were to be classified as insects?
Or Men have more teeth than women.
Or Men's blood is hotter than women's blood.
Or that some people are naturally born to be slaves, and it is just and moral to enslave them.
Or the earth is the center of the universe.
Or that the earth is and has been there for all eternity.
Or all less formers of life spontaneously come into being and don't reproduce.
Or the natural state for all objects is to be at rest; they require constant application of force to move.
Or that there are a total of seven heavenly bodies, which are perfect and never change.
Or that the heart is the organ of reason and intellect.
But this can all be explained since he honestly believed the sole function of the brain is to cool the blood.
Yes he was a real fucking genius.
Facts not....
lerlo comments on Oct 25, 2019:
They're going to be an awful lot of unused well lubed dildos...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 25, 2019:
@Charlene when people say things like that I have to very quickly remind myself who it is that Penceis refers to as mother, it makes it marginally less disturbing.
lerlo comments on Oct 25, 2019:
They're going to be an awful lot of unused well lubed dildos...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 25, 2019:
@Charlene when people say things like that I have to very quickly remind myself who it is that Penceis refers to as mother, it makes it marginally less disturbing.
I heard a saying today that I'd heard before, I hope I don't come across as a hippie.
ZantiMisfit comments on Oct 24, 2019:
I think it's a Bob Marley quote.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 24, 2019:
It is Jimmy Hendrix
ZantiMisfit comments on Oct 24, 2019:
I think it's a Bob Marley quote.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 24, 2019:
It is Jimmy Hendrix
SARTORIAL.
Charlene comments on Oct 24, 2019:
Will I never reach a sartorial level of elegance? It would be nice.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 24, 2019:
False modesty does not become you @Charlene we have all seen your photos 😉
Charlene comments on Oct 24, 2019:
Will I never reach a sartorial level of elegance? It would be nice.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 24, 2019:
False modesty does not become you @Charlene we have all seen your photos 😉
SARTORIAL.
WonderWartHog99 comments on Oct 24, 2019:
## Does anyone ever use the word "sartorial" without the word "elegance?"🤔🤔
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 24, 2019:
@Marionville "George" at ASDA guaranteed to split at the seam after four washes
WonderWartHog99 comments on Oct 24, 2019:
## Does anyone ever use the word "sartorial" without the word "elegance?"🤔🤔
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 24, 2019:
@Marionville "George" at ASDA guaranteed to split at the seam after four washes
A White Trash Manifesto
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 23, 2019:
My father in a life time of working very hard managed to raise himself from working class to lower middle class and in all that time always voted Tory and held very right wing views.
I asked him why once and his answer stunned me "I vote for the people who understand money"
I pointed out the ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 24, 2019:
@altschmerz That is wonderful. I love it
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 23, 2019:
My father in a life time of working very hard managed to raise himself from working class to lower middle class and in all that time always voted Tory and held very right wing views.
I asked him why once and his answer stunned me "I vote for the people who understand money"
I pointed out the ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 24, 2019:
@altschmerz That is wonderful. I love it
“Miracle Mineral Solution,”
According to Jim Humble and his Genesis II Church of Health and ...
azzow2 comments on Oct 23, 2019:
I had once thought that the practice of drinking bleach was something that was isolated to a cult, after looking into it it is I had discovered it is widely practiced. The ignorance of the people that consume bleach is just baffling. Regular bleach is bad enough what about the Clorox? Clorox has ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 24, 2019:
@AnneWimsey @azzow2
Both Lye and Bleach are common generic terms for various chemicals that have the common effect of whitening and or being toxic to microbiological organisms.
The archaic term fuller can also be used.
They can be commonly Chlorine based, sodium based or Peroxide based, there are one or two other but most industrially manufactured one fall in to these three categories.
azzow2 comments on Oct 23, 2019:
I had once thought that the practice of drinking bleach was something that was isolated to a cult, after looking into it it is I had discovered it is widely practiced. The ignorance of the people that consume bleach is just baffling. Regular bleach is bad enough what about the Clorox? Clorox has ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 24, 2019:
@AnneWimsey @azzow2
Both Lye and Bleach are common generic terms for various chemicals that have the common effect of whitening and or being toxic to microbiological organisms.
The archaic term fuller can also be used.
They can be commonly Chlorine based, sodium based or Peroxide based, there are one or two other but most industrially manufactured one fall in to these three categories.
A White Trash Manifesto
slydr68 comments on Oct 23, 2019:
Poor, stupid people are still people...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 23, 2019:
My old journalism professor had a saying which I believe completely
"In a free country no one has the right to be ignorant much less stupid"
No matter how poor you are you are entitled to a free education and you can read in a public library for free.
Yet intelligence is mocked and barbarism lauded.
slydr68 comments on Oct 23, 2019:
Poor, stupid people are still people...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 23, 2019:
My old journalism professor had a saying which I believe completely
"In a free country no one has the right to be ignorant much less stupid"
No matter how poor you are you are entitled to a free education and you can read in a public library for free.
Yet intelligence is mocked and barbarism lauded.
ROTOSCOPING.
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 23, 2019:
Ralph Bakshi was infamous for rotascoping and was often vilified for it by other animators, even though he often pointed out the technique had been learned at Disney studios, who swore blind they did not use it, even though they did as was proven when footage of Marjorie Celeste Belcher (AKA Margie...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 23, 2019:
@altschmerz
Yes, he worked on a lot of classic series before branching out on his own
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 23, 2019:
Ralph Bakshi was infamous for rotascoping and was often vilified for it by other animators, even though he often pointed out the technique had been learned at Disney studios, who swore blind they did not use it, even though they did as was proven when footage of Marjorie Celeste Belcher (AKA Margie...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 23, 2019:
@altschmerz
Yes, he worked on a lot of classic series before branching out on his own
Here is a rather interesting religious twist
Fernapple comments on Oct 23, 2019:
If you are going to pick a fictional hero, why not go for Whinny the Pooh's Eeyore, a much wiser and far more realistic persona. With a really good take on stoic philosophy.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 23, 2019:
Have you read
The Tao of Pooh & The Te of Piglet
by Benjamin Hoff
Fernapple comments on Oct 23, 2019:
If you are going to pick a fictional hero, why not go for Whinny the Pooh's Eeyore, a much wiser and far more realistic persona. With a really good take on stoic philosophy.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 23, 2019:
Have you read
The Tao of Pooh & The Te of Piglet
by Benjamin Hoff
“Miracle Mineral Solution,”
According to Jim Humble and his Genesis II Church of Health and ...
Cutiebeauty comments on Oct 23, 2019:
I don't believe in cure alls.. I don't understand why people do...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 23, 2019:
Desperation and gullibility?
Cutiebeauty comments on Oct 23, 2019:
I don't believe in cure alls.. I don't understand why people do...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 23, 2019:
Desperation and gullibility?
This was the one story that started it all.
Biblebeltskeptic comments on Oct 21, 2019:
Agreed! And if we were to hypothetically agree with Job that suffering is good, all kinds of horrendous actions can be done because his god loves suffering.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 23, 2019:
@altschmerz Yes but at least she had the excuse of being a twisted old bat
Biblebeltskeptic comments on Oct 21, 2019:
Agreed! And if we were to hypothetically agree with Job that suffering is good, all kinds of horrendous actions can be done because his god loves suffering.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 23, 2019:
@altschmerz Yes but at least she had the excuse of being a twisted old bat
“Miracle Mineral Solution,”
According to Jim Humble and his Genesis II Church of Health and ...
vjohnson51 comments on Oct 23, 2019:
That is so so so sad. I do not understand what is wrong with these type of people. I don't think it'll be able to watch the video, but didn't the parents get arrested or something?
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 23, 2019:
The guy who first started the scam was arrested , but Humble just sells it as a product, on which he displays the FDA "advice" not to consume it, but gives personal assurance that they are just "legal requirements"
The case in the video is an ex husband trying to stop his wife who is a member of the cult poisoning his two teenage autistic sons (over whom he has no custody, because he is an atheist) but is being prevented because she and her church claim it is infringement of her religious freedom to do as she sees best for the boys.
vjohnson51 comments on Oct 23, 2019:
That is so so so sad. I do not understand what is wrong with these type of people. I don't think it'll be able to watch the video, but didn't the parents get arrested or something?
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 23, 2019:
The guy who first started the scam was arrested , but Humble just sells it as a product, on which he displays the FDA "advice" not to consume it, but gives personal assurance that they are just "legal requirements"
The case in the video is an ex husband trying to stop his wife who is a member of the cult poisoning his two teenage autistic sons (over whom he has no custody, because he is an atheist) but is being prevented because she and her church claim it is infringement of her religious freedom to do as she sees best for the boys.
The Popemobile:
Killtheskyfairy comments on Oct 22, 2019:
I thought he was God’s representative on earth. Why doesn’t his power or his sky daddy’s power protect him?
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 23, 2019:
Because god failed to protect one of his predecessor form being shot on Wednesday, 13 May 1981, in St. Peter's Square in Vatican City.
If his god could not protect him in his literal own backyard, perhaps he does need an armoured car?
Killtheskyfairy comments on Oct 22, 2019:
I thought he was God’s representative on earth. Why doesn’t his power or his sky daddy’s power protect him?
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 23, 2019:
Because god failed to protect one of his predecessor form being shot on Wednesday, 13 May 1981, in St. Peter's Square in Vatican City.
If his god could not protect him in his literal own backyard, perhaps he does need an armoured car?
The limits of religious freedom: America must come to grips with when faith groups limit personal ...
MakeItGood comments on Oct 23, 2019:
Perhaps we need evangelical atheists knocking on amishes doors?
What I wouldnt give to see a Jehovah Witness knocking on an Amish persons door...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 23, 2019:
There is on You Tube film of Atheist missionaries going door to door in Utah spreading the good news of non belief, some the delicate little Mormite faithful are so shocked they are ready to pull a gun on them.
MakeItGood comments on Oct 23, 2019:
Perhaps we need evangelical atheists knocking on amishes doors?
What I wouldnt give to see a Jehovah Witness knocking on an Amish persons door...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 23, 2019:
There is on You Tube film of Atheist missionaries going door to door in Utah spreading the good news of non belief, some the delicate little Mormite faithful are so shocked they are ready to pull a gun on them.
ROTOSCOPING.
Cutiebeauty comments on Oct 23, 2019:
I could never, in my life, engage in rotoscoping!! Omg, so much repetitive work! 😋🤣
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 23, 2019:
Motion capture is the modern equivalent and the results are phenomenal.
Cutiebeauty comments on Oct 23, 2019:
I could never, in my life, engage in rotoscoping!! Omg, so much repetitive work! 😋🤣
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 23, 2019:
Motion capture is the modern equivalent and the results are phenomenal.
Heavy metals in baby food? Noooooo.. I'll breast feeding so much longer!
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 22, 2019:
Breast milk is obviously the best food for infants
however as stated in the International journal of analytical chemistry April 4th 2018
"Samples were collected from 42 nursery mothers with an average age of 28.3 ± 7.08 years delivered at full term (38–40 weeks) of gestation. All samples ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 22, 2019:
@Cutiebeauty a heavy metal refers to any metallic chemical element that has a relatively high density and is toxic or poisonous at relatively low concentrations the worst are lead and mercury (both are incredibly toxic), and the transuranic elements for obvious reasons.
Sodium, potassium and lithium can affect moods (such as euphoria and depression) but usually react in the stomach with other chemicals and become salts or cancel one another out.
Small (Very small) amounts of Zinc, magnesium, gold, selenium and copper are essential for good health and Calcium is required in large quantities.
Arsenic is a mystery it is in all living things and in miniscule quantities seems to assist the immune system, however too little makes one prone to infection, too much causes cancer and diabetes or is just toxic, especially to rats.
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 22, 2019:
Breast milk is obviously the best food for infants
however as stated in the International journal of analytical chemistry April 4th 2018
"Samples were collected from 42 nursery mothers with an average age of 28.3 ± 7.08 years delivered at full term (38–40 weeks) of gestation. All samples ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 22, 2019:
@Cutiebeauty a heavy metal refers to any metallic chemical element that has a relatively high density and is toxic or poisonous at relatively low concentrations the worst are lead and mercury (both are incredibly toxic), and the transuranic elements for obvious reasons.
Sodium, potassium and lithium can affect moods (such as euphoria and depression) but usually react in the stomach with other chemicals and become salts or cancel one another out.
Small (Very small) amounts of Zinc, magnesium, gold, selenium and copper are essential for good health and Calcium is required in large quantities.
Arsenic is a mystery it is in all living things and in miniscule quantities seems to assist the immune system, however too little makes one prone to infection, too much causes cancer and diabetes or is just toxic, especially to rats.
I just want to thank everyone who joined this group and all the great conversations you have shared.
Cutiebeauty comments on Oct 22, 2019:
Welcome back.. I don't use Facebook...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 22, 2019:
Neither do I bur Jason has my support.
Cutiebeauty comments on Oct 22, 2019:
Welcome back.. I don't use Facebook...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 22, 2019:
Neither do I bur Jason has my support.
TAUTOLOGY--saying the same thing twice in different words, considered a fault in style, In logic, a ...
Buttercup comments on Oct 21, 2019:
The first rule of tautology club is the first rule of tautology club.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 21, 2019:
Brilliant
Buttercup comments on Oct 21, 2019:
The first rule of tautology club is the first rule of tautology club.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 21, 2019:
Brilliant
Ok.
Geoffrey51 comments on Oct 20, 2019:
Exactly. I don’t like rugby but none of my business if you do!
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 21, 2019:
@Geoffrey51 so was I
Geoffrey51 comments on Oct 20, 2019:
Exactly. I don’t like rugby but none of my business if you do!
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 21, 2019:
@Geoffrey51 so was I
Tawse how about a twofer?
callmedubious comments on Oct 19, 2019:
when i was in grade 8 only the vice-principal could administer the strap. one of the teachers got really pissed at me & said: i'm making an appointment for you to see vice-principal Bell ( which would have resulted in the strap). as it was late friday afternoon the appointment was made for mon ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 21, 2019:
@callmedubious He's a professional assassin, that was the jist of my joke
callmedubious comments on Oct 19, 2019:
when i was in grade 8 only the vice-principal could administer the strap. one of the teachers got really pissed at me & said: i'm making an appointment for you to see vice-principal Bell ( which would have resulted in the strap). as it was late friday afternoon the appointment was made for mon ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 21, 2019:
@callmedubious He's a professional assassin, that was the jist of my joke
Ok.
Geoffrey51 comments on Oct 20, 2019:
Exactly. I don’t like rugby but none of my business if you do!
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 20, 2019:
Teams of Rugby players don't fly planes into buildings on the promise of 70 virgins, though I dare say some of them might give it a go if that was the promised reward, only finally realising they were going to die when it was too late to stop.
I played Rugby in my youth and many of my teammates were not the sharpest knives in the draw, one for instance thought that backing up his car and knocking down a speed cam would stop it from sending him a speeding ticket.
Geoffrey51 comments on Oct 20, 2019:
Exactly. I don’t like rugby but none of my business if you do!
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 20, 2019:
Teams of Rugby players don't fly planes into buildings on the promise of 70 virgins, though I dare say some of them might give it a go if that was the promised reward, only finally realising they were going to die when it was too late to stop.
I played Rugby in my youth and many of my teammates were not the sharpest knives in the draw, one for instance thought that backing up his car and knocking down a speed cam would stop it from sending him a speeding ticket.
Tawse how about a twofer?
Marionville comments on Oct 19, 2019:
I remember it well....we had the tawse, belt or strap when I was at school, and it was used pretty liberally by many teachers. Some teachers at Grammar school would only use it on the boys, but some used it on both boys and girls. It left an angry red weal on your wrist, and it wasn’t something...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 20, 2019:
@JackPedigo I used to love the ol series with Kenneth Moore as Father Brown and the film series with Alec Guiness, I'll have to have a look at the new one.
Marionville comments on Oct 19, 2019:
I remember it well....we had the tawse, belt or strap when I was at school, and it was used pretty liberally by many teachers. Some teachers at Grammar school would only use it on the boys, but some used it on both boys and girls. It left an angry red weal on your wrist, and it wasn’t something...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 20, 2019:
@JackPedigo I used to love the ol series with Kenneth Moore as Father Brown and the film series with Alec Guiness, I'll have to have a look at the new one.
Tawse how about a twofer?
callmedubious comments on Oct 19, 2019:
when i was in grade 8 only the vice-principal could administer the strap. one of the teachers got really pissed at me & said: i'm making an appointment for you to see vice-principal Bell ( which would have resulted in the strap). as it was late friday afternoon the appointment was made for mon ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 20, 2019:
Tell the truth you put out a call to John Wick on Saturday didn't you. 😉
callmedubious comments on Oct 19, 2019:
when i was in grade 8 only the vice-principal could administer the strap. one of the teachers got really pissed at me & said: i'm making an appointment for you to see vice-principal Bell ( which would have resulted in the strap). as it was late friday afternoon the appointment was made for mon ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 20, 2019:
Tell the truth you put out a call to John Wick on Saturday didn't you. 😉
Tawse how about a twofer?
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 19, 2019:
The strap was used by some of my school masters, but most preferred the "Board ruler" a one yard long wooden rule, half an inch wide or the classic bamboo cane.
However some teachers had imaginative and much worse punishments such as having you stand at the front of the class, arm stretched out ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 20, 2019:
@JackPedigo I was talking of almost fifty years ago, however even today in the UK, though corporal punishment is forbidden in state schools it is not illegal and is widely practiced in privately owned educational establishments and religious schools.
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 19, 2019:
The strap was used by some of my school masters, but most preferred the "Board ruler" a one yard long wooden rule, half an inch wide or the classic bamboo cane.
However some teachers had imaginative and much worse punishments such as having you stand at the front of the class, arm stretched out ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 20, 2019:
@JackPedigo I was talking of almost fifty years ago, however even today in the UK, though corporal punishment is forbidden in state schools it is not illegal and is widely practiced in privately owned educational establishments and religious schools.
I liketo use words.
Cutiebeauty comments on Oct 20, 2019:
What is upon what? Lol
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 20, 2019:
@CutiebeautyEdited sorry I misposted this to you instead of the general thread
Cutiebeauty comments on Oct 20, 2019:
What is upon what? Lol
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 20, 2019:
@CutiebeautyEdited sorry I misposted this to you instead of the general thread
it seems to me like to be "all-knowing" would require a rather thorough and intimate knowledge of ...
creative51 comments on Oct 19, 2019:
God had to have worked out all the details, then invented sin, just like everything else he invented.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 19, 2019:
You can imagine god's head of design coming to him with a new design for creation and god stopping him before he starts to ask "can people fuck this one?" then sending off another memo to Adam telling him that shagging a Kumquat is yet another sin.
creative51 comments on Oct 19, 2019:
God had to have worked out all the details, then invented sin, just like everything else he invented.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 19, 2019:
You can imagine god's head of design coming to him with a new design for creation and god stopping him before he starts to ask "can people fuck this one?" then sending off another memo to Adam telling him that shagging a Kumquat is yet another sin.
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BestWithoutGods comments on Oct 19, 2019:
Fuck Chick-fil-A up the ass!
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 19, 2019:
That's my nightmare for the night sorted 😝
BestWithoutGods comments on Oct 19, 2019:
Fuck Chick-fil-A up the ass!
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 19, 2019:
That's my nightmare for the night sorted 😝
NECROMANCY - Noun.
IamNobody comments on Oct 19, 2019:
The dead died in the past, how can they see the future? ( Sorry, can't help myself....you know I have to say whatever comes to mind 😊 )
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 19, 2019:
@IamNobody Look that is just a sensible attitude you have to look at it like this: if a dead person tells you you can talk to dead people then you know he must be telling the truth because he is dead and told you you can talk to the dead, simples 😉
IamNobody comments on Oct 19, 2019:
The dead died in the past, how can they see the future? ( Sorry, can't help myself....you know I have to say whatever comes to mind 😊 )
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 19, 2019:
@IamNobody Look that is just a sensible attitude you have to look at it like this: if a dead person tells you you can talk to dead people then you know he must be telling the truth because he is dead and told you you can talk to the dead, simples 😉
NECROMANCY - Noun.
IamNobody comments on Oct 19, 2019:
The dead died in the past, how can they see the future? ( Sorry, can't help myself....you know I have to say whatever comes to mind 😊 )
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 19, 2019:
The "Theory" is that once you die you move outside of time and that past present and future are laid out before you as a "carpet of eternity".
Using the "Correct" rituals the dead can re enter time and space and impart knowledge, though it is usually only that Auntie fanny no longer has a cough, the car keys are in the kitchen or that Uncle Fred wants you to give the inheritance he left you to the the spiritualist church instead, AMAZING how many times that message comes across.
IamNobody comments on Oct 19, 2019:
The dead died in the past, how can they see the future? ( Sorry, can't help myself....you know I have to say whatever comes to mind 😊 )
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 19, 2019:
The "Theory" is that once you die you move outside of time and that past present and future are laid out before you as a "carpet of eternity".
Using the "Correct" rituals the dead can re enter time and space and impart knowledge, though it is usually only that Auntie fanny no longer has a cough, the car keys are in the kitchen or that Uncle Fred wants you to give the inheritance he left you to the the spiritualist church instead, AMAZING how many times that message comes across.
If there is a god than he has watched every act of child molestation that has ever happened and not ...
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 17, 2019:
The only answer most religious people have to this is the free will argument, but this of course if countered by the counter argument that god obvious does not view all his children equally nor love them equally as the free will and happiness of the pervert obviously overrides the freewill and ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 18, 2019:
@JackPedigo You are predicating your whole position on humans being inherently "evil" and all nature being "red in tooth and claw" both of which contentions are demonstrably untrue.
However to move on to your major points " Why is worship necessary for a deist god? " it is not, because there is no such thing, worship however even of an imaginary god is necessary if you are a church wanting to exploit the gullible, worship is what is needed to ensure continuous membership, continuous tithing, and continuous authority.
"Why is it a gods responsibility to keep any species, human or otherwise from harm?" again it is not because they he or it does not exist. HOWEVER when a key selling point of a church's god product is that this deity WILL keep you safe, will protect you from evil intent and will watch over you like a father, you have a problem when it does not. The only way around this for religion is that god's loves and protection are conditional on your being "good" and that if harm comes to you it must necessarily be an indicator the you were not good enough, because you do not measure up to the divine idea of perfection as embodied by a god who will allow harm to come to the helpless.
The freewill argument holds no water since in such a case the person who intervenes show more morality than (presuming for the sake or argument it exists) the deity who does not, and can so it may be assumed also has a morally inferior definition of free will that in human terms equates to at best gross negligence.
"Protection of humans is our responsibility and not some ethereal being." this is of course axiomatic and leads us to the conclusion that there is in all probability no god, or slightly less likely there is one but it is completely uninterested in us, which in practical terms amounts to the same thing as there not being one.
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 17, 2019:
The only answer most religious people have to this is the free will argument, but this of course if countered by the counter argument that god obvious does not view all his children equally nor love them equally as the free will and happiness of the pervert obviously overrides the freewill and ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 18, 2019:
@JackPedigo You are predicating your whole position on humans being inherently "evil" and all nature being "red in tooth and claw" both of which contentions are demonstrably untrue.
However to move on to your major points " Why is worship necessary for a deist god? " it is not, because there is no such thing, worship however even of an imaginary god is necessary if you are a church wanting to exploit the gullible, worship is what is needed to ensure continuous membership, continuous tithing, and continuous authority.
"Why is it a gods responsibility to keep any species, human or otherwise from harm?" again it is not because they he or it does not exist. HOWEVER when a key selling point of a church's god product is that this deity WILL keep you safe, will protect you from evil intent and will watch over you like a father, you have a problem when it does not. The only way around this for religion is that god's loves and protection are conditional on your being "good" and that if harm comes to you it must necessarily be an indicator the you were not good enough, because you do not measure up to the divine idea of perfection as embodied by a god who will allow harm to come to the helpless.
The freewill argument holds no water since in such a case the person who intervenes show more morality than (presuming for the sake or argument it exists) the deity who does not, and can so it may be assumed also has a morally inferior definition of free will that in human terms equates to at best gross negligence.
"Protection of humans is our responsibility and not some ethereal being." this is of course axiomatic and leads us to the conclusion that there is in all probability no god, or slightly less likely there is one but it is completely uninterested in us, which in practical terms amounts to the same thing as there not being one.
If there is a god than he has watched every act of child molestation that has ever happened and not ...
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 17, 2019:
The only answer most religious people have to this is the free will argument, but this of course if countered by the counter argument that god obvious does not view all his children equally nor love them equally as the free will and happiness of the pervert obviously overrides the freewill and ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 17, 2019:
@JackPedigo You can use that same argument about the police, governments, churches or even parents.
So accepting for the sake of argument that there is a god for a moment, then a god who is capable of saving a child from assault and does not is not worthy of worship, and this being a god who is omnipresent, all powerful and presumably capable of ending the assault with no damage to either party, one could logically only draw the conclusion he she or it is evil.
However most religious people will still contort themselves in to theological knots to say this is not so, and excuse the hideousness of it with pathetic platitudes, rather than face the obvious truth that the most probable solution and reason for god not saving the child is that there is no god at all.
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 17, 2019:
The only answer most religious people have to this is the free will argument, but this of course if countered by the counter argument that god obvious does not view all his children equally nor love them equally as the free will and happiness of the pervert obviously overrides the freewill and ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 17, 2019:
@JackPedigo You can use that same argument about the police, governments, churches or even parents.
So accepting for the sake of argument that there is a god for a moment, then a god who is capable of saving a child from assault and does not is not worthy of worship, and this being a god who is omnipresent, all powerful and presumably capable of ending the assault with no damage to either party, one could logically only draw the conclusion he she or it is evil.
However most religious people will still contort themselves in to theological knots to say this is not so, and excuse the hideousness of it with pathetic platitudes, rather than face the obvious truth that the most probable solution and reason for god not saving the child is that there is no god at all.
I HAVE A CONFESSION TO MAKE!
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MissKathleen comments on Oct 17, 2019:
Stealing is stealing.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 17, 2019:
@Rob48 Bad comparison, that would not be murder it would be self defense or justifiable homicide.
MissKathleen comments on Oct 17, 2019:
Stealing is stealing.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 17, 2019:
@Rob48 Bad comparison, that would not be murder it would be self defense or justifiable homicide.
If there is a god than he has watched every act of child molestation that has ever happened and not ...
mongo1977 comments on Oct 17, 2019:
If you're not opposed to child molestation, it would be really easy to dismiss god's inaction.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 17, 2019:
If you're not opposed to child molestation you are one sick puppy who at best needs help at worst needs a sledgehammer to the groin ASAP
mongo1977 comments on Oct 17, 2019:
If you're not opposed to child molestation, it would be really easy to dismiss god's inaction.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 17, 2019:
If you're not opposed to child molestation you are one sick puppy who at best needs help at worst needs a sledgehammer to the groin ASAP
If there is a god than he has watched every act of child molestation that has ever happened and not ...
Allamanda comments on Oct 17, 2019:
"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?"
- Epicurus
Note this was before Christianity - the ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 17, 2019:
I have always love the epicurean paradox, it is fun watching Christians go red in the face and bluster over trying to discredit it
Allamanda comments on Oct 17, 2019:
"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?"
- Epicurus
Note this was before Christianity - the ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 17, 2019:
I have always love the epicurean paradox, it is fun watching Christians go red in the face and bluster over trying to discredit it
A discussion on another forum tonight got me wondering how Christians might deal with irrefutable ...
chucklesIII comments on Oct 17, 2019:
Impossible to prove either way. What is true is that some would claim to be god or something similar by performing magic acts. This was actually quite common thousands of years ago.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 17, 2019:
Simon Magus springs to mind.
Odd is it not that a character given such short shrift in the bible has a wealth of historical evidence for his existence, where as the main character of the new testament has none at all for his.
chucklesIII comments on Oct 17, 2019:
Impossible to prove either way. What is true is that some would claim to be god or something similar by performing magic acts. This was actually quite common thousands of years ago.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 17, 2019:
Simon Magus springs to mind.
Odd is it not that a character given such short shrift in the bible has a wealth of historical evidence for his existence, where as the main character of the new testament has none at all for his.
Here's why I cannot rule out reincarnation
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 15, 2019:
"That 4th level of consciousness, turiya, is independent of the senses and any form of measure. " so ...imaginary then?
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 17, 2019:
@JeffMesser by the way I believe you meant to type jnana-marga not jnana-manga, manga is a Japanese comic book art style and so far as I know has nothing to do with Sankhya, Vedanta or Yoga, please correct me if I am wrong. The wise man always knows he has a lot to learn.
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 15, 2019:
"That 4th level of consciousness, turiya, is independent of the senses and any form of measure. " so ...imaginary then?
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 17, 2019:
@JeffMesser by the way I believe you meant to type jnana-marga not jnana-manga, manga is a Japanese comic book art style and so far as I know has nothing to do with Sankhya, Vedanta or Yoga, please correct me if I am wrong. The wise man always knows he has a lot to learn.
Here's why I cannot rule out reincarnation
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 15, 2019:
"That 4th level of consciousness, turiya, is independent of the senses and any form of measure. " so ...imaginary then?
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 17, 2019:
@JeffMesser I did actually mention the earlier natural philosophers who contributed over time to what actually was formalised by Francis Bacon as the scientific method, including the arabic physicians, the indian vedas and as I said you chose to dispute my correct answer by "moving the goalposts" which as you well know is a primary defining characteristic of the intellectually dishonest rhetorician and the sort petty fogging and wheedling practice of the mountebank.
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 15, 2019:
"That 4th level of consciousness, turiya, is independent of the senses and any form of measure. " so ...imaginary then?
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 17, 2019:
@JeffMesser I did actually mention the earlier natural philosophers who contributed over time to what actually was formalised by Francis Bacon as the scientific method, including the arabic physicians, the indian vedas and as I said you chose to dispute my correct answer by "moving the goalposts" which as you well know is a primary defining characteristic of the intellectually dishonest rhetorician and the sort petty fogging and wheedling practice of the mountebank.
I hate to say it, but in the last few months this whole site has become inundated with a lot of very...
TheGreatShadow comments on Oct 16, 2019:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiritual_but_not_religious
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 17, 2019:
@Allamanda
I would contend words are never redefined since they have traceable root meanings, they are however often colloquially misused and as such accepted in to common parlance, that still does not make them right and often leads to pseudo equivocation.
A prime example seems to be your use of the word syllogistic, which I sense you are using as a derogatory term when in fact it is a perfectly fine word for the structure of my stated position.
Use of Consciousness would in fact end this debate as being perfectly rational on your part, but you immediate dismissal of the term in favour of "life force" puts back where we started, since you can demonstrate no such thing as an external none material life force, no more so than you could a god, which presumably is something your presence here would indicate you are at peace with.
TheGreatShadow comments on Oct 16, 2019:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiritual_but_not_religious
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 17, 2019:
@Allamanda
I would contend words are never redefined since they have traceable root meanings, they are however often colloquially misused and as such accepted in to common parlance, that still does not make them right and often leads to pseudo equivocation.
A prime example seems to be your use of the word syllogistic, which I sense you are using as a derogatory term when in fact it is a perfectly fine word for the structure of my stated position.
Use of Consciousness would in fact end this debate as being perfectly rational on your part, but you immediate dismissal of the term in favour of "life force" puts back where we started, since you can demonstrate no such thing as an external none material life force, no more so than you could a god, which presumably is something your presence here would indicate you are at peace with.
I hate to say it, but in the last few months this whole site has become inundated with a lot of very...
Allamanda comments on Oct 16, 2019:
You might want to consider that many level 8 members may have other reasons for not engaging... one being they are tired of the irascibility and egotism on display, after the time it took them to reach that point, but there are many others, including them 'having a life'. It is rather juvenile to ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 17, 2019:
@Allamanda
That's fine, I am always open to correction in the face of evidence, but if faced with a discussion where I can provide substantiation for my stance and the other person simple tells me their position is unassailable because it just IS or because of Faith, then I know who I am going to believe and who I am going to think of as a wannabe dictator.
In short if I am objectively right, I will not tolerate being told to accept that which is wrong, for the sake of someone else's feelings or "spiritual" sensibilities
Allamanda comments on Oct 16, 2019:
You might want to consider that many level 8 members may have other reasons for not engaging... one being they are tired of the irascibility and egotism on display, after the time it took them to reach that point, but there are many others, including them 'having a life'. It is rather juvenile to ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 17, 2019:
@Allamanda
That's fine, I am always open to correction in the face of evidence, but if faced with a discussion where I can provide substantiation for my stance and the other person simple tells me their position is unassailable because it just IS or because of Faith, then I know who I am going to believe and who I am going to think of as a wannabe dictator.
In short if I am objectively right, I will not tolerate being told to accept that which is wrong, for the sake of someone else's feelings or "spiritual" sensibilities
I hate to say it, but in the last few months this whole site has become inundated with a lot of very...
TheGreatShadow comments on Oct 16, 2019:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiritual_but_not_religious
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 17, 2019:
@Allamanda
So if you mean consciousness why not say Consciousness, after all if I offer someone a Banana I don't call it a dinosaur and expect them to understand that I personally think of dinosaurs as small yellow and bent.
By the way consciousness is actually a purely physical phenomena, it is a provable and monitorable function of the brain, why on earth would you think it was not?
I am a great believer in etymology, spirit comes from spiritus Latin for breath but a specific form breath, breath of life or essence rather than respirare which is breath in the act of breathing.
In Greek the word is and is translated from Psyche again meaning essential essence, life force or soul, to say this has no connection to religion at all is simply wrong it was and is in Greek a specifically religious term usually translated to English as Ghost of spirit in the "Psychic" sense, hence the word psychic.
You simply cannot mess about with words, redefine them willy nilly and expect them to retain a common frame of reference .
TheGreatShadow comments on Oct 16, 2019:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiritual_but_not_religious
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 17, 2019:
@Allamanda
So if you mean consciousness why not say Consciousness, after all if I offer someone a Banana I don't call it a dinosaur and expect them to understand that I personally think of dinosaurs as small yellow and bent.
By the way consciousness is actually a purely physical phenomena, it is a provable and monitorable function of the brain, why on earth would you think it was not?
I am a great believer in etymology, spirit comes from spiritus Latin for breath but a specific form breath, breath of life or essence rather than respirare which is breath in the act of breathing.
In Greek the word is and is translated from Psyche again meaning essential essence, life force or soul, to say this has no connection to religion at all is simply wrong it was and is in Greek a specifically religious term usually translated to English as Ghost of spirit in the "Psychic" sense, hence the word psychic.
You simply cannot mess about with words, redefine them willy nilly and expect them to retain a common frame of reference .
I hate to say it, but in the last few months this whole site has become inundated with a lot of very...
Allamanda comments on Oct 16, 2019:
Hey you could just quit, or delete yourself...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 17, 2019:
I could, but I will not.
Allamanda comments on Oct 16, 2019:
Hey you could just quit, or delete yourself...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 17, 2019:
I could, but I will not.
I hate to say it, but in the last few months this whole site has become inundated with a lot of very...
darthfaja comments on Oct 16, 2019:
The world is made up of lots of different people and we don’t have to agree with one another. I generally agree with much of what you have to say.
Today not so much.
From my perspective it appears that anyone who isn’t a pure atheist is an “idiot” to you.
Often times on this site ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 17, 2019:
@darthfaja
@ToolGuy
@HippieChick58
@silverotter11
@skado
@kensmile4u
Tolerance of the intolerable is a dangerous path that leads to weakness and eventually your being silenced, I shall not go gentle into that good night, Old age should burn and rave at close of day; Rage, rage against the dying of the light. to paraphrase the poet.
Thank you for your advice, and the time taken in putting it forward, but I am perhaps just a little tired of being patience and tolerant with unconscionably stupid behaviour among believers, a situation which has now brought the world to the eve of World war 3, has placed dangerous lunatics in to positions of power who are protected and supported "Good Christians", who wish to see people I love arrested or even killed for loving the wrong people.
It is my choice from this point on to call a fool a fool and point out their foolishness, for there own sake and the sake of others
darthfaja comments on Oct 16, 2019:
The world is made up of lots of different people and we don’t have to agree with one another. I generally agree with much of what you have to say.
Today not so much.
From my perspective it appears that anyone who isn’t a pure atheist is an “idiot” to you.
Often times on this site ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 17, 2019:
@darthfaja
@ToolGuy
@HippieChick58
@silverotter11
@skado
@kensmile4u
Tolerance of the intolerable is a dangerous path that leads to weakness and eventually your being silenced, I shall not go gentle into that good night, Old age should burn and rave at close of day; Rage, rage against the dying of the light. to paraphrase the poet.
Thank you for your advice, and the time taken in putting it forward, but I am perhaps just a little tired of being patience and tolerant with unconscionably stupid behaviour among believers, a situation which has now brought the world to the eve of World war 3, has placed dangerous lunatics in to positions of power who are protected and supported "Good Christians", who wish to see people I love arrested or even killed for loving the wrong people.
It is my choice from this point on to call a fool a fool and point out their foolishness, for there own sake and the sake of others
I hate to say it, but in the last few months this whole site has become inundated with a lot of very...
Allamanda comments on Oct 16, 2019:
You might want to consider that many level 8 members may have other reasons for not engaging... one being they are tired of the irascibility and egotism on display, after the time it took them to reach that point, but there are many others, including them 'having a life'. It is rather juvenile to ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 17, 2019:
I have no problem with people not agreeing with me, I do have a problem with people simply putting forward unjustifiable contentions and refusing to either think about what they are advocating, or being unable to justify what they are contending.
These people are for me simply practicing another for of religion but using different nomenclature or worse Jargon to fool themselves and others.
To me this behaviour is idiotic, hence my use of the word idiot.
Allamanda comments on Oct 16, 2019:
You might want to consider that many level 8 members may have other reasons for not engaging... one being they are tired of the irascibility and egotism on display, after the time it took them to reach that point, but there are many others, including them 'having a life'. It is rather juvenile to ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 17, 2019:
I have no problem with people not agreeing with me, I do have a problem with people simply putting forward unjustifiable contentions and refusing to either think about what they are advocating, or being unable to justify what they are contending.
These people are for me simply practicing another for of religion but using different nomenclature or worse Jargon to fool themselves and others.
To me this behaviour is idiotic, hence my use of the word idiot.
I hate to say it, but in the last few months this whole site has become inundated with a lot of very...
TheGreatShadow comments on Oct 16, 2019:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiritual_but_not_religious
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 17, 2019:
Spiritual has inherent connotations of the supernatural, every argument that can be used for not accepting or doubting the existence of a god or gods is equally applicable to the supernatural.
therefore saying **"I am not religious but I am spiritual"** is the agnostic equivalent of **"I'm not racist ...BUT..."**
it is replacing one nonsense with another nonsense that sounds slightly more acceptable to the religious community at large.
TheGreatShadow comments on Oct 16, 2019:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiritual_but_not_religious
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 17, 2019:
Spiritual has inherent connotations of the supernatural, every argument that can be used for not accepting or doubting the existence of a god or gods is equally applicable to the supernatural.
therefore saying **"I am not religious but I am spiritual"** is the agnostic equivalent of **"I'm not racist ...BUT..."**
it is replacing one nonsense with another nonsense that sounds slightly more acceptable to the religious community at large.
I hate to say it, but in the last few months this whole site has become inundated with a lot of very...
1of5 comments on Oct 16, 2019:
It's almost like its a crossection of humanity. Only thing missing is someone complaining about it....
...oh, wait.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 16, 2019:
touché
1of5 comments on Oct 16, 2019:
It's almost like its a crossection of humanity. Only thing missing is someone complaining about it....
...oh, wait.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 16, 2019:
touché
Here's why I cannot rule out reincarnation
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 15, 2019:
"That 4th level of consciousness, turiya, is independent of the senses and any form of measure. " so ...imaginary then?
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 16, 2019:
@JeffMesser You specifically asked about the scientific method, and I answered that question, you sir are intellectually dishonest.
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 15, 2019:
"That 4th level of consciousness, turiya, is independent of the senses and any form of measure. " so ...imaginary then?
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 16, 2019:
@JeffMesser You specifically asked about the scientific method, and I answered that question, you sir are intellectually dishonest.
I hate to say it, but in the last few months this whole site has become inundated with a lot of very...
altschmerz comments on Oct 16, 2019:
I must have missed those!
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 16, 2019:
you are lucky, then, I wish I had
altschmerz comments on Oct 16, 2019:
I must have missed those!
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 16, 2019:
you are lucky, then, I wish I had
I hate to say it, but in the last few months this whole site has become inundated with a lot of very...
TheInterlooper comments on Oct 16, 2019:
TLDR: Atheist throws tantrum because there are too many agnostics on agnostic.com.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 16, 2019:
159 words merits a TLDR? wow
TheInterlooper comments on Oct 16, 2019:
TLDR: Atheist throws tantrum because there are too many agnostics on agnostic.com.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 16, 2019:
159 words merits a TLDR? wow
Here's why I cannot rule out reincarnation
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 15, 2019:
"That 4th level of consciousness, turiya, is independent of the senses and any form of measure. " so ...imaginary then?
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 16, 2019:
@JeffMesser I know the scientific method evolved from natural philosophy and was formalised in the renaissance specifically in the 17th century, are you insinuating otherwise?
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 15, 2019:
"That 4th level of consciousness, turiya, is independent of the senses and any form of measure. " so ...imaginary then?
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 16, 2019:
@JeffMesser I know the scientific method evolved from natural philosophy and was formalised in the renaissance specifically in the 17th century, are you insinuating otherwise?
Here's why I cannot rule out reincarnation
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 15, 2019:
"That 4th level of consciousness, turiya, is independent of the senses and any form of measure. " so ...imaginary then?
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 16, 2019:
@JeffMesser No, but I will always favour discovery by scientific method over the millennia old ramblings of dead bronze age preachers who thought it was the most profound thing in the world to declare that we can identify god (brahman) because he is not this and not this, without ever being able to explain what it **is**, because that would make it "this" and thus not god.
Wow I and I thought christians were dumb.
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 15, 2019:
"That 4th level of consciousness, turiya, is independent of the senses and any form of measure. " so ...imaginary then?
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 16, 2019:
@JeffMesser No, but I will always favour discovery by scientific method over the millennia old ramblings of dead bronze age preachers who thought it was the most profound thing in the world to declare that we can identify god (brahman) because he is not this and not this, without ever being able to explain what it **is**, because that would make it "this" and thus not god.
Wow I and I thought christians were dumb.
Why do they worship?
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 13, 2019:
Ritual repetition, routine and self justifying circular reasoning are known to assist in brainwashing and the suppression of individuality. Combined with fear based carrot and stick consequences and the punishment of "wrong thinking" from a very early age religion can become very addictive.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 16, 2019:
@Noemi Well I tell you what, when we next need medical attention after perhaps a car crash, I'll go in the ambulances and I'll send you a herbalist and a philosopher, see which of of recovers first.
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 13, 2019:
Ritual repetition, routine and self justifying circular reasoning are known to assist in brainwashing and the suppression of individuality. Combined with fear based carrot and stick consequences and the punishment of "wrong thinking" from a very early age religion can become very addictive.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 16, 2019:
@Noemi Well I tell you what, when we next need medical attention after perhaps a car crash, I'll go in the ambulances and I'll send you a herbalist and a philosopher, see which of of recovers first.
As a follow up to my earlier post here is my Analysis of the film Joker
WARNING MAJOR MAJOR ...
UrsiMajor comments on Oct 16, 2019:
Um.. Did we see the same film?
This is honestly one of the most realistic and disturbing films I have ever seen. I'm just not anal enough to fact check when Zorro and the Energizer bunny came out. Even if I were, nothing can take away for the spell-binding performance of Joquain Phoenix. Academy ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 16, 2019:
Well I have never been so violently and nastilly ***agreed*** with in all my born days, are you illiterate, an idiot or did you simply just not read what I wrote?
UrsiMajor comments on Oct 16, 2019:
Um.. Did we see the same film?
This is honestly one of the most realistic and disturbing films I have ever seen. I'm just not anal enough to fact check when Zorro and the Energizer bunny came out. Even if I were, nothing can take away for the spell-binding performance of Joquain Phoenix. Academy ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 16, 2019:
Well I have never been so violently and nastilly ***agreed*** with in all my born days, are you illiterate, an idiot or did you simply just not read what I wrote?
Ouijazilla, the world's largest Ouija board, makes spooky debut
bobwjr comments on Oct 14, 2019:
Holy shit
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 14, 2019:
You're half right
bobwjr comments on Oct 14, 2019:
Holy shit
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 14, 2019:
You're half right
Your veiws on Spiritual?
creative51 comments on Oct 13, 2019:
I define spiritual in my own manner, different then yours. In my personal definition religious and spiritual are two very different things and according to my personal definitions you can be a non believer of the supernatural (ie; gods and their ilk) and still be spiritual. If you or others have ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 13, 2019:
@creative51 Thank you, I would just appreciate it if you studied the meaning of words before attempting to redefine them for no good reason.
creative51 comments on Oct 13, 2019:
I define spiritual in my own manner, different then yours. In my personal definition religious and spiritual are two very different things and according to my personal definitions you can be a non believer of the supernatural (ie; gods and their ilk) and still be spiritual. If you or others have ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 13, 2019:
@creative51 Thank you, I would just appreciate it if you studied the meaning of words before attempting to redefine them for no good reason.
Why do they worship?
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 13, 2019:
Ritual repetition, routine and self justifying circular reasoning are known to assist in brainwashing and the suppression of individuality. Combined with fear based carrot and stick consequences and the punishment of "wrong thinking" from a very early age religion can become very addictive.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 13, 2019:
@Castlepaloma Since I don't believe in satan either I would rather say religion is the tool of the most successful con trick in history and so long as the cash of the gullible keeps rolling in and the happy hypocrites keep on doing as they are told, religion is still functioning fine for its intended corrupt purposes.
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 13, 2019:
Ritual repetition, routine and self justifying circular reasoning are known to assist in brainwashing and the suppression of individuality. Combined with fear based carrot and stick consequences and the punishment of "wrong thinking" from a very early age religion can become very addictive.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 13, 2019:
@Castlepaloma Since I don't believe in satan either I would rather say religion is the tool of the most successful con trick in history and so long as the cash of the gullible keeps rolling in and the happy hypocrites keep on doing as they are told, religion is still functioning fine for its intended corrupt purposes.
Your veiws on Spiritual?
creative51 comments on Oct 13, 2019:
I define spiritual in my own manner, different then yours. In my personal definition religious and spiritual are two very different things and according to my personal definitions you can be a non believer of the supernatural (ie; gods and their ilk) and still be spiritual. If you or others have ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 13, 2019:
As I pointed out higher up this thread the only way to be spiritual without also being in some manner a supernaturalist is to use the word spirit in its secondary sense and intimate you are drunk as a skunk.
creative51 comments on Oct 13, 2019:
I define spiritual in my own manner, different then yours. In my personal definition religious and spiritual are two very different things and according to my personal definitions you can be a non believer of the supernatural (ie; gods and their ilk) and still be spiritual. If you or others have ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 13, 2019:
As I pointed out higher up this thread the only way to be spiritual without also being in some manner a supernaturalist is to use the word spirit in its secondary sense and intimate you are drunk as a skunk.
Your veiws on Spiritual?
WilliamFleming comments on Oct 13, 2019:
My personal definition of spirituality is to be deeply aware of the staggering implications of the mystery of existence and to live in awe, appreciation, and reverence.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 13, 2019:
Well so long as you are happy living with a a definition that upon analysis means sweet FA I won't even try to convince you that you are are living in a Elysian delusion.
Your intellect is you own to waste after all.
WilliamFleming comments on Oct 13, 2019:
My personal definition of spirituality is to be deeply aware of the staggering implications of the mystery of existence and to live in awe, appreciation, and reverence.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 13, 2019:
Well so long as you are happy living with a a definition that upon analysis means sweet FA I won't even try to convince you that you are are living in a Elysian delusion.
Your intellect is you own to waste after all.
Your veiws on Spiritual?
Tyrantmike comments on Oct 13, 2019:
I define spirituality as your inner self and your place in the connectivity of the Universe. Between living things and non living things alike. Humans are creatures of patterns and I try to sync my own pattern with that of life itself.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 13, 2019:
All that makes up my inner self, is blood, flesh and the remnants of a chinese meal.
Inner self used in the context you imply is another catch all wishy washy phrase used by people who have no clue what it is they wish to communicate.
Tyrantmike comments on Oct 13, 2019:
I define spirituality as your inner self and your place in the connectivity of the Universe. Between living things and non living things alike. Humans are creatures of patterns and I try to sync my own pattern with that of life itself.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 13, 2019:
All that makes up my inner self, is blood, flesh and the remnants of a chinese meal.
Inner self used in the context you imply is another catch all wishy washy phrase used by people who have no clue what it is they wish to communicate.
Why do they worship?
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 13, 2019:
Ritual repetition, routine and self justifying circular reasoning are known to assist in brainwashing and the suppression of individuality. Combined with fear based carrot and stick consequences and the punishment of "wrong thinking" from a very early age religion can become very addictive.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 13, 2019:
@Castlepaloma It does not work to some extent, but still has a powerful grip on far to many. As evidenced by children dying in ritual exorcisms in London and New York, belief in witches again often resulting in the death of the accused, idiots in Mexico crucifying themselves at easter, people blowing themselves up for the approval of their imaginary friends, while others practice self immolation to protest on behalf of their own.
Fear instilled by religion still has parents disowning their own children, or killing them for bringing shame on the household, has brother taking up arms against brother and mothers proudly mourning their martyred sons and daughters.
Terror is the currency of religion terror that you can tell the terrified is the power and tremble making touch of the spirit of your own particular bespoke messiah.
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 13, 2019:
Ritual repetition, routine and self justifying circular reasoning are known to assist in brainwashing and the suppression of individuality. Combined with fear based carrot and stick consequences and the punishment of "wrong thinking" from a very early age religion can become very addictive.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 13, 2019:
@Castlepaloma It does not work to some extent, but still has a powerful grip on far to many. As evidenced by children dying in ritual exorcisms in London and New York, belief in witches again often resulting in the death of the accused, idiots in Mexico crucifying themselves at easter, people blowing themselves up for the approval of their imaginary friends, while others practice self immolation to protest on behalf of their own.
Fear instilled by religion still has parents disowning their own children, or killing them for bringing shame on the household, has brother taking up arms against brother and mothers proudly mourning their martyred sons and daughters.
Terror is the currency of religion terror that you can tell the terrified is the power and tremble making touch of the spirit of your own particular bespoke messiah.
This has been asked a thousand times and will be asked again by an other.
Julie808 comments on Oct 11, 2019:
Evil is a choice, not a supernatural force, in my opinion. We humans have a conscience and so if a person knowingly causes harm, when there are better choices, and that person benefits from that harm, either by selfish greed or simply joy at seeing the suffering or destruction, that would be a ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 13, 2019:
@MissKathleen If you'll forgive the intrusion I would say it is both.
Altruism and by extension conscience is an evolutionary trait geared toward survival, however the misdirecting of that instinct by society or religion for the purposes of avoiding or confronting "sin" is most definitely a product of nurture not nature.
Julie808 comments on Oct 11, 2019:
Evil is a choice, not a supernatural force, in my opinion. We humans have a conscience and so if a person knowingly causes harm, when there are better choices, and that person benefits from that harm, either by selfish greed or simply joy at seeing the suffering or destruction, that would be a ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 13, 2019:
@MissKathleen If you'll forgive the intrusion I would say it is both.
Altruism and by extension conscience is an evolutionary trait geared toward survival, however the misdirecting of that instinct by society or religion for the purposes of avoiding or confronting "sin" is most definitely a product of nurture not nature.
A Pastor Used the Death of an Atheist Mom’s Baby as a Sermon Illustration | Hemant Mehta | ...
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 13, 2019:
***God is good
he will stand by and allow a 1 year old to die, when our religion says he an do anything
so he must have a reason
But good is good, believe that folks or he will burn you forever in hell
Great guy**
Mormon's do this all the time, they are instructed to use funerals of members...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 13, 2019:
@altschmerz what an arse, your cousin did right.
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 13, 2019:
***God is good
he will stand by and allow a 1 year old to die, when our religion says he an do anything
so he must have a reason
But good is good, believe that folks or he will burn you forever in hell
Great guy**
Mormon's do this all the time, they are instructed to use funerals of members...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 13, 2019:
@altschmerz what an arse, your cousin did right.
Not a question, more of a challenge. Can not simplify sorry.
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 10, 2019:
Dude WTF are you gibbering about?
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 12, 2019:
@Sameasis Nope still none the wiser
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 10, 2019:
Dude WTF are you gibbering about?
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 12, 2019:
@Sameasis Nope still none the wiser
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